Weapons for my up-coming alaska trip.

jaeger · 05-29-2009, 05:22 PM

I was lucky enough to get invited to alaska to bear hunt. My question is if my weapons will be up to spec. I recently picked up a Marlin GG 45/70 and was planning on taking that and my Rem 700 .30-06. My cousin has hunted up there for a few years now and told me that shots are rarely longer than 150 yds or so. I plan on loading the .06 with a 200gr paritition over 47 grs of varget. Should give me about 2500fps. Any info would be greatly appreciated.. I am also picking up a taurus tracker .44 mag for a oh sh%* moment.

trustnoone.45 · 05-29-2009, 08:12 PM

While I have never hunted in alaska unfortunatley. That seems like it will do the trick but as you know there are more knowledgable people in this area than me. Post pics after hunt please. Thank you

texnmidwest · 05-29-2009, 08:30 PM

All I know is that Mooseman, swears by the 300 win mag. in Alaska.

Mooseman684 · 05-29-2009, 08:59 PM

I do swear By the .300 Win Mag and the 45-70 (for close in work) on Bears !

The 30/06 will do OK on most 8 ft. and smaller bears and Black bears !
Now if you run into "Freight Train" the 14 Ft. Grizzly Bear...HIDE ! LOL
You will look at your guns and realize they aint Quite big enough !!!
And file the front sight off that Taurus....

Rich

ArkansasHunter · 05-29-2009, 09:07 PM

^ You Da Man !!!

big shrek · 05-29-2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I do swear By the .300 Win Mag and the 45-70 (for close in work) on Bears !

The 30/06 will do OK on most 8 ft. and smaller bears and Black bears !
Now if you run into "Freight Train" the 14 Ft. Grizzly Bear...HIDE ! LOL
You will look at your guns and realize they aint Quite big enough !!!
And file the front sight off that Taurus....

Rich

He ain't Liberty Valance

(now there is an Old Movie reference...lol)

I thought we had gotten past filing off the front sights on revolvers by now...lol

samuel · 05-30-2009, 12:30 AM

Who would I be to contradict Mooseman,even if I could?One question?Where is the front sight on a Taurus? sam.

cremley · 05-30-2009, 01:27 AM

Sorry to be PC, but do you really need weapons for an Alaska hunt? I can understand hunting rifles and firearms but are the bears and other animals going to be shooting back? Sorry, The anti-gunners will use anything they can to fuel their fire. Watch what you post (i.e. sniper rifle that is really a long range target rifle and a weapon that is really a hunting rifle).

Mooseman684 · 05-30-2009, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big shrek

He ain't Liberty Valance

(now there is an Old Movie reference...lol)
I thought we had gotten past filing off the front sights on revolvers by now...lol

That is so it won't hurt near as much when that bear shoves that Taurus up his Butt !

Palladin8 · 05-30-2009, 02:06 AM

If you don't file it off at the very least have a jar of Vaseline handy. I would think both rifles you described would work fine within reasonable distances.

samuel · 05-30-2009, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Palladin8

If you don't file it off at the very least have a jar of Vaseline handy. I would think both rifles you described would work fine within reasonable distances.

I doubt that the rifles will do much of anything,myne seem to be lazy,it,s the shooter that carries the responsibility in my case. sam.

SwedeSteve · 05-30-2009, 09:01 AM

I would get REALLY good at snap-shooting that 45/70 !!

samuel · 05-30-2009, 11:25 AM

For GAWD sake,dont forget that 10/22 or maybe a M60.Marlin. sam.

moosemike · 06-11-2009, 02:08 PM

My wifes' cousin works the fishing boats out of the Kenai and off Kodiak and Afognak. He says he is going to get a hunt arranged for our family on either Kodiak or Afognak for blacktail deer. If he gets it arranged I will take my .30-06 Remington with some stout 180's in case of angry Brownies.

Lng Rng · 06-11-2009, 05:46 PM

If I were going on a bear hunt up there, I would get a 338 Win Mag. But, if you are comfortable with the 06 and 45-70, you should be able to get the job done. Also, you should make some hand loads for the Gov. Much better than the anemic factory loads.

deerhuntertyler · 06-12-2009, 01:39 PM

I have no experience hunting in alaska unfortinatly but in northern minnesota I use a .300 win. mag. for black bears

dmsbandit · 06-12-2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cremley

Sorry to be PC, but do you really need weapons for an Alaska hunt? I can understand hunting rifles and firearms but are the bears and other animals going to be shooting back? Sorry, The anti-gunners will use anything they can to fuel their fire. Watch what you post (i.e. sniper rifle that is really a long range target rifle and a weapon that is really a hunting rifle).

You're not PC, just off your medication. Call the Pharmacy and get those prescriptions your doctor sent in for you.

SwedeSteve · 06-13-2009, 05:55 PM

Moosemike- If you go deerhunting on Kodiak, Montague or Afognak you WILL see bears, BIG bears !! About 2 minutes after you drop your deer, they're gonna show up to that "dinner bell" you just touched off !!

CircuitRider · 06-13-2009, 09:04 PM

A 240gr Woodleigh Protected point traveling at 2500fps out of an 30-06 with a SD of .361 is a real freight train and will let air in one side and blood out the other on the biggest bear.

Mooseman684 · 06-13-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CircuitRider

A 240gr Woodleigh Protected point traveling at 2500fps out of an 30-06 with a SD of .361 is a real freight train and will let air in one side and blood out the other on the biggest bear.

While it Might let the air out of him , he is going to eat you before he goes completely Flat... Thats the problem. If it doesnt Knock him down it will be several seconds or more before the Bear even knows that he has been hit , because if he is charging you, he is so pumped on adrenaline that the Blood Pressure will have to drop 75% before his Brain starts shutting down and since he is on all fours with his head down , the Blood does Not drain as fast as something standing on 2 legs...5-7 seconds is all that bear needs to rip your face off and crunch up a bunch of your bones.
It has even happened to guys carrying .375 H&H Mags etc...

05-29-2009, 05:22 PM	#1
jaeger Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 567	Weapons for my up-coming alaska trip. I was lucky enough to get invited to alaska to bear hunt. My question is if my weapons will be up to spec. I recently picked up a Marlin GG 45/70 and was planning on taking that and my Rem 700 .30-06. My cousin has hunted up there for a few years now and told me that shots are rarely longer than 150 yds or so. I plan on loading the .06 with a 200gr paritition over 47 grs of varget. Should give me about 2500fps. Any info would be greatly appreciated.. I am also picking up a taurus tracker .44 mag for a oh sh%* moment.

05-29-2009, 08:12 PM	#2
trustnoone.45 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: colorado springs Posts: 485	While I have never hunted in alaska unfortunatley. That seems like it will do the trick but as you know there are more knowledgable people in this area than me. Post pics after hunt please. Thank you __________________ If you find yourself in a fair fight your tactics suck!

05-29-2009, 08:30 PM	#3
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,888	All I know is that Mooseman, swears by the 300 win mag. in Alaska. __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

05-29-2009, 08:59 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,177	I do swear By the .300 Win Mag and the 45-70 (for close in work) on Bears ! The 30/06 will do OK on most 8 ft. and smaller bears and Black bears ! Now if you run into "Freight Train" the 14 Ft. Grizzly Bear...HIDE ! LOL You will look at your guns and realize they aint Quite big enough !!! And file the front sight off that Taurus.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

05-29-2009, 09:07 PM	#5
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 16,943	^ You Da Man !!! __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

05-30-2009, 12:30 AM	#7
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,792	Who would I be to contradict Mooseman,even if I could?One question?Where is the front sight on a Taurus? sam.

05-30-2009, 01:27 AM	#8
cremley Young Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern New Mexico Posts: 2,631	Sorry to be PC, but do you really need weapons for an Alaska hunt? I can understand hunting rifles and firearms but are the bears and other animals going to be shooting back? Sorry, The anti-gunners will use anything they can to fuel their fire. Watch what you post (i.e. sniper rifle that is really a long range target rifle and a weapon that is really a hunting rifle). __________________ I wouldn't be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get me. NRA MEMBER

05-30-2009, 02:06 AM	#10
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,420	If you don't file it off at the very least have a jar of Vaseline handy. I would think both rifles you described would work fine within reasonable distances.

05-30-2009, 09:01 AM	#12
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,157	I would get REALLY good at snap-shooting that 45/70 !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

05-30-2009, 11:25 AM	#13
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 10,792	For GAWD sake,dont forget that 10/22 or maybe a M60.Marlin. sam.

06-11-2009, 02:08 PM	#14
moosemike Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Lebanon PA Posts: 218	My wifes' cousin works the fishing boats out of the Kenai and off Kodiak and Afognak. He says he is going to get a hunt arranged for our family on either Kodiak or Afognak for blacktail deer. If he gets it arranged I will take my .30-06 Remington with some stout 180's in case of angry Brownies.

06-11-2009, 05:46 PM	#15
Lng Rng Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,096	If I were going on a bear hunt up there, I would get a 338 Win Mag. But, if you are comfortable with the 06 and 45-70, you should be able to get the job done. Also, you should make some hand loads for the Gov. Much better than the anemic factory loads.

06-12-2009, 01:39 PM	#16
deerhuntertyler Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Medford MN Posts: 395	I have no experience hunting in alaska unfortinatly but in northern minnesota I use a .300 win. mag. for black bears __________________ I'm a farm boy who definitely isn't afraid of hard work! If its worth doing, its worth doing right!

06-13-2009, 05:55 PM	#18
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,157	Moosemike- If you go deerhunting on Kodiak, Montague or Afognak you WILL see bears, BIG bears !! About 2 minutes after you drop your deer, they're gonna show up to that "dinner bell" you just touched off !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

06-13-2009, 09:04 PM	#19
CircuitRider Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 265	A 240gr Woodleigh Protected point traveling at 2500fps out of an 30-06 with a SD of .361 is a real freight train and will let air in one side and blood out the other on the biggest bear.