Rifled Shotgun Slugs against Grizzley Bears

BattleRifleG3 · 01-05-2003, 02:37 PM

In my quest to identify what is ultimately necessary in order to defeat an attacking grizzley bear, I'm looking for the word on Rifled slugs, particularly 2.75" Brennekes. This would be for defense against them, not as a primary hunting weapon. The weapon would be either a Saiga 12 or a Mossberg 590.

Big Dog · 01-05-2003, 03:34 PM

Yes, with the usual caveat about shot placement. Not to forget multiple shots - the Grizzleys have a high pressure blood system - the more holes to bleed him off, the better. When in doubt - empty the mag!

oneastrix · 01-05-2003, 05:31 PM

Where's the usual, "Get a girlfriend option?"LOL

I suppose it would work......My buddy used a 300winmag to do the trick.....Placed a bad shot and had to chase the thing and shoot it again.

MarkII 22 · 01-05-2003, 05:34 PM

YES the 2.75 Rifled would work I'v shot one in to a 6 inch peace of green hedge and go over half way through.

colt45 · 01-05-2003, 06:06 PM

My Dad and Uncle have taken a few with 12ga 2 3/4" win. XXX with no problems. I have only ever taken one with a 45-70 gov.
but both of them still hunt them with the old 12ga's. I read some where that a 12ga deer slug could drop a rhino at 75 yrds with one shot to the vitals not sure I would test this or not but you can if you wish.

bottlbob · 01-20-2003, 12:31 PM

pumkin throwin shotguns fer grizz ??
my opinion,-------it matters how close ya are.
40 yards on in, i`d take a chance with my mossberg 590 with 3 in mags and 1 1/4 oz slugs.
there is a lot of lead going at a fast speed an if you hit a shoulder it should put him down.----i`d hope-lol lol
maybe a 4570 w/hammerhead ammo would be a hair better.

NRAJOE · 01-20-2003, 12:38 PM

practical · 02-12-2003, 07:48 AM

When fishing rivers in AK during summer where bears are a real threat, I see most people carrying 357-44mags. I take a little different route. I have a Glock 10mm on my hip at all times. It''s got more power than the 357 and 16rds to boot. It's also loaded alternately with Speer JHP and Corbon Penetrators. I figure I've got all my bases covered that way.

Dallas · 02-12-2003, 07:59 AM

For god's sake boy, get yourself a girlfriend.

LOL

BattleRifleG3 · 02-12-2003, 02:54 PM

I do have a girlfriend now.

NRAJOE · 02-12-2003, 02:57 PM

Does her seeing eye dog like ya too?

BattleRifleG3 · 02-12-2003, 03:11 PM

Grrrrrrr!!!!

:uzi:
:target:
:assult:

MarkII 22 · 02-13-2003, 08:12 PM

Ain't that got old yet NRAJOE?

alan c. · 02-13-2003, 09:50 PM

BRG3 Good for you treat her right. It can last you a life time. Well mine has been my best freind for a short time 20 Years. I am looking foward to twice that.

BattleRifleG3 · 02-13-2003, 11:38 PM

The rifle range is on my list for dates this spring. As is the park. Mountains can come all in good time.

View Poll Results: Rifled slugs vs Grizzley Bears?
Yes, 2.75" Brennekes are enough for Grizzlies	4	44.44%
2.75" aren't sufficient, but 3" magnums are	1	11.11%
Rifled slugs are insufficient, but Sabot slugs are enough.	0	0%
All of the above are plenty for black bears, but not grizzlies	1	11.11%
Either 1. An option not listed, 2. None are sufficient, or 3. BattleRifleG3 sucks.	3	33.33%
Voters: 9. You may not vote on this poll

01-05-2003, 02:37 PM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Rifled Shotgun Slugs against Grizzley Bears In my quest to identify what is ultimately necessary in order to defeat an attacking grizzley bear, I'm looking for the word on Rifled slugs, particularly 2.75" Brennekes. This would be for defense against them, not as a primary hunting weapon. The weapon would be either a Saiga 12 or a Mossberg 590. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

01-05-2003, 03:34 PM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,208	Yes, with the usual caveat about shot placement. Not to forget multiple shots - the Grizzleys have a high pressure blood system - the more holes to bleed him off, the better. When in doubt - empty the mag! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-05-2003, 05:31 PM	#3
oneastrix Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	Where's the usual, "Get a girlfriend option?"LOL I suppose it would work......My buddy used a 300winmag to do the trick.....Placed a bad shot and had to chase the thing and shoot it again. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

01-05-2003, 05:34 PM	#4
MarkII 22 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 587	YES the 2.75 Rifled would work I'v shot one in to a 6 inch peace of green hedge and go over half way through. __________________ GROW YOUR OWN DOPE.PLANT A POLITICIAN. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.SO PLEASE SHUT UP!

01-05-2003, 06:06 PM	#5
colt45 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Occupied Territories of New York (Buffalo) Posts: 2,898	My Dad and Uncle have taken a few with 12ga 2 3/4" win. XXX with no problems. I have only ever taken one with a 45-70 gov. but both of them still hunt them with the old 12ga's. I read some where that a 12ga deer slug could drop a rhino at 75 yrds with one shot to the vitals not sure I would test this or not but you can if you wish. __________________ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" -Sigmund Freud, General Introduction to Psychoanalysis "If guns cause crime, all of mine are defective." - Ted Nugent "Self-defense is Nature's eldest law." -John Dryden

01-20-2003, 12:31 PM	#6
bottlbob Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: michigan Posts: 15	pumkin throwin shotguns fer grizz ?? my opinion,-------it matters how close ya are. 40 yards on in, i`d take a chance with my mossberg 590 with 3 in mags and 1 1/4 oz slugs. there is a lot of lead going at a fast speed an if you hit a shoulder it should put him down.----i`d hope-lol lol maybe a 4570 w/hammerhead ammo would be a hair better.

01-20-2003, 12:38 PM	#7
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02-12-2003, 07:48 AM	#8
practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	When fishing rivers in AK during summer where bears are a real threat, I see most people carrying 357-44mags. I take a little different route. I have a Glock 10mm on my hip at all times. It''s got more power than the 357 and 16rds to boot. It's also loaded alternately with Speer JHP and Corbon Penetrators. I figure I've got all my bases covered that way. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

02-12-2003, 07:59 AM	#9
Dallas PUKHA DAWG Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia, just outside of Washington D.C. Posts: 3,595	For god's sake boy, get yourself a girlfriend. LOL

02-12-2003, 02:54 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I do have a girlfriend now. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

02-12-2003, 02:57 PM	#11
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	Does her seeing eye dog like ya too? __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

02-12-2003, 03:11 PM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Grrrrrrr!!!! :uzi: :target: :assult: __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

02-13-2003, 08:12 PM	#13
MarkII 22 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 587	Ain't that got old yet NRAJOE? __________________ GROW YOUR OWN DOPE.PLANT A POLITICIAN. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT.SO PLEASE SHUT UP!

02-13-2003, 09:50 PM	#14
alan c. Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pasadena,Tejas - also known as Texas Posts: 3,767 Images: 15	BRG3 Good for you treat her right. It can last you a life time. Well mine has been my best freind for a short time 20 Years. I am looking foward to twice that.

02-13-2003, 11:38 PM	#15
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	The rifle range is on my list for dates this spring. As is the park. Mountains can come all in good time. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf