50 tips for the hunter

Shootester · 10-21-2009, 12:29 AM

50 Great Hunting Tips | Outdoor Life
I don't know how many of you will find these useful, but I figured everybody will find atleast one thing that they could use. On page 10 is tips for cooking as well!

wirehunt · 10-21-2009, 05:18 PM

Don't think I'd read much into these, not when we see unsportsmanlike behavior like this on the first page

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4 DESIGN A BETTER DRIVE When putting a drive together, we tend to place standers in front of and alongside the area being driven. If you have enough people in your party, position a stander in the rear where the drive originated. Deer will often wait for hunters to pass and then sneak back and run off in the opposite direction.

bryarx · 10-27-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wirehunt

Don't think I'd read much into these, not when we see unsportsmanlike behavior like this on the first page

Doesn't look unsportsmanlike to me, depending on where you are. You are allowed to drive in some states (lower South Carolina). You are also allowed to shoot over bait. Rifle season lasts from August 15th - Jan 1. All just depends on where you are!

jerry · 10-27-2009, 04:08 PM

Thanks

wirehunt · 10-27-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bryarx

Doesn't look unsportsmanlike to me, depending on where you are. You are allowed to drive in some states (lower South Carolina). You are also allowed to shoot over bait. Rifle season lasts from August 15th - Jan 1. All just depends on where you are!

And I spotlight deer for control work. Whats the stance on that in the USA?

Just cause it's legal it doesn't mean it's right.

In fact here in New Zealand at the moment there is a huge fight over whether it should be legal to helihunt. But if it's legal it'll be fine. I don't think so.

Paper · 10-27-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wirehunt

Don't think I'd read much into these, not when we see unsportsmanlike behavior like this on the first page

I grew up in Wisconsin, and drives are a standard part of deer hunting after opening day.. Pushing deer out of thick brush areas, ditches, and small woods are completely normal and typical.

I HATE drives and don't partake in them because of the safety issue and the fact that I prefer still hunting alone, but drives are both legal and completely normal..

If you don't like deer drives, I'd hate to hear your thoughts on traditional English pheasant hunts..

Paper · 10-27-2009, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wirehunt

And I spotlight deer for control work. Whats the stance on that in the USA?

In Wisconsin, you'll quickly be fined, not allowed to hunt for a few years, and also find yourself without spotlight, firearm, and vehicle..

What I'm saying is that what's completely acceptable in one part of the world might not in another.. Drives are just fine, and you're allowed to use radios for this purpose, too.

bryarx · 10-28-2009, 04:32 PM

I don't believe it to be unethical to run dogs to chase out deer. Generally we take a square piece of property, set people up on the road at safe distances, use buck shot, let the dogs (or man drive) loose and wait. It's great for a mid day hunt, if you can get enough people and dogs together. It is legal in my state, and it is somewhat practiced. I have been on a few drives, and have yet to see anything, but you can shoot over bait here as well.

That is how I was raised to deer hunt, the logic seems sound to me.

rimfirenut · 10-28-2009, 04:38 PM

I think maybe stick to the topic and we'll all be fine... I have seen these before but still decent reading material..
Maybe a new thread on deer drives??? Nothin wrong with drives as long as it is executed properly and in a safe manner...

bryarx · 10-29-2009, 09:40 AM

Good point Rimfire. A lot of the tips I'd already heard or figured out. There were a couple I had never heard though.

-I suppose I can see the thought behind this:

32 MOO-VING IN FOR THE KILL If it's a quiet day and you're trying to approach ducks by crawling through thick reeds, the noise you make will invariably spook birds before you're in range. If cattle are around, try this: Say "moo" loudly as you sneak, being as cowlike as possible. Don't laugh— it works like a charm. Ducks will tolerate cows, but not you.

I don't know if impregnate was the best word, but I didn't know of this one either:

34 BUILD A BETTER FIRE Fire starters are vital to getting a fire going. I use several kinds. One of the best is easy to make at home. Impregnate cotton balls thoroughly with petroleum jelly. About seven of them will fit in a 35mm film canister. Each will burn for about three minutes.

-I did enjoy the entire page of cooking tips:

WILD GAME COOKING
45 TAME THE TASTE Some say strong, gamey venison is always the result of improper field care. That's not true. No matter how well you care for it, an animal can taste gamey because of its age, the rut, its diet or other factors. Here are ingredients that will tame strong meats: fresh ginger root, soy sauce, onion and garlic. Stir-fries are the best at masking a too-strong taste because the ingredients are in close contact with the surface of the meat.
46 GRIND YOUR OWN Want to try something wild? Get a small electric meat grinder for less than $100 and make your own burger and sausage. Try boning rabbits, squirrels and other game meats, and grinding the meat to make meatballs and burgers. Dazzle your pals with rabbit, squirrel and goose meatballs.
47 DISHWASHER FISH Here's a crazy technique I learned in the Arctic. Wrap a fish fillet along with butter, onions and seasonings in foil, then wrap it again. Put the whole works in the dishwasher (minus soap) and turn it on. Presto—when the cycles are completed your fish will be beautifully steamed.
48 SAUTE A SNAKE You've no doubt heard about rattlesnake meat being a delicacy, and that it tastes like chicken. It doesn't really taste like chicken, but it's tasty. To process, carefully remove the head and peel off the hide. Then, fillet the meat, which comes away in thin strips. Sauté in butter and garlic. It's really good stuff.
49 HOW TO EAT ANYTHING Offbeat critters such as porcupines, woodchucks, muskrats, raccoons and beavers can be outstanding table fare. Be sure to remove any fat and musk glands and cut the meat into chunks. Soak it in a mild salt solution for 12 hours (½ cup salt to one gallon of water) and cook it in a slow cooker with plenty of spices and vegetables—the more tomatoes, the better. Let it cook until the meat falls off the bones. You might be surprised.
50 STEW MADE EASY My favorite stew is called whatchagot, meaning whatever you've got in the back of your freezer. As I cook, I routinely freeze all the leftovers. When I have a dozen or so packages, I thaw everything and dump it in a huge pot. I let it simmer, add salt and pepper to taste and toss in some extras, such as rice and beans. It's always a hit, but please don't ask for a recipe. I don't have a clue. It's whatchagot.

SwedeSteve · 10-31-2009, 03:49 PM

And they laughed at my dishwasher fish !! Ha !!

LiveToShoot · 10-31-2009, 03:54 PM

Thanks...

...I look forward to reading posts in this thread.

And, to practice where possible some of these techniques in my hunting...

...as I continue working at harvesting a deer and elk this fall.

tappedandtagged · 11-01-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bryarx

I don't believe it to be unethical to run dogs to chase out deer. Generally we take a square piece of property, set people up on the road at safe distances, use buck shot, let the dogs (or man drive) loose and wait. It's great for a mid day hunt, if you can get enough people and dogs together. It is legal in my state, and it is somewhat practiced. I have been on a few drives, and have yet to see anything, but you can shoot over bait here as well.

That is how I was raised to deer hunt, the logic seems sound to me.

I don't believe it's unethical to run deer with dogs either, as long as it's done in an ethical manner.

The guys around my house will shoot the deer in your freaking front yard from the road if their dog runs a deer through it. If they miss and kill your cow, they get outta dodge. But, that's the unethical people. The guys that have the acreage and run dogs safely, I have no problem with as it is legal in Arkansas. But if your dog runs across my yard and you're sitting out on the road waiting to shoot the deer its chasing, well, I guess you just lost a dog cause I'll kill it.

tappedandtagged · 11-01-2009, 01:24 AM

Oh, and another thing, I've noticed that some feel that its not "sportsman like" to shoot deer over bait. Where I'm at its too thick to hunt just about any other way.

While spot and stalk would be a thrill, its just plain not possible in my area. Can't spot if the brush is thick and the trees are close together and the land is mostly "flat." (what we call mountains other states call a speed bump)

ArkansasHunter · 11-01-2009, 02:39 AM

Thanks Shootester I enjoyed reading all 50. Thank you for posting it...A.H

wirehunt · 11-01-2009, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Paper

I grew up in Wisconsin, and drives are a standard part of deer hunting after opening day.. Pushing deer out of thick brush areas, ditches, and small woods are completely normal and typical.
I HATE drives and don't partake in them because of the safety issue and the fact that I prefer still hunting alone, but drives are both legal and completely normal..
If you don't like deer drives, I'd hate to hear your thoughts on traditional English pheasant hunts..

Don't bother with those pheasants, there just to easy.

This is what I don't understand about the USA. You get all high and mighty about spotlight etc and yet still do drives. Very odd.
We do drives here, not the technical way you guys do though. We'll sort a nice looking gully out and put the huntaway dogs (dogs used for stock work here) in the bottom, in theory the deer will come out at the 'spot' and job done. There's not many that will do that though, it's just to easy.

Paper · 11-01-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wirehunt

Don't bother with those pheasants, there just to easy.
This is what I don't understand about the USA. You get all high and mighty about spotlight etc and yet still do drives. Very odd.
We do drives here, not the technical way you guys do though. We'll sort a nice looking gully out and put the huntaway dogs (dogs used for stock work here) in the bottom, in theory the deer will come out at the 'spot' and job done. There's not many that will do that though, it's just to easy.

I think part of it is because of the laws that have been in place for years..
Spoting=bad
Drives=good

And please also remember that what's legal in one state may be illegal in the next.. I live on the line between IL and WI and I deer hunt in both states, and they both have very different laws.. I can use a rifle to deer hunt in WI, but if I walk across the state line, I can't..

And the season's at the same time!!

Drives have been a traditional part of deer hunting here in the Midwest for generations. I remember listening to my grandfather telling me about drives that he was on when he was a kid, and he passed away at 89 years old, almost 20 years ago.

jerry · 11-01-2009, 07:44 AM

Your gonna drive yourself crazy guys. It is what it is.

wirehunt · 11-02-2009, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jerry

Your gonna drive yourself crazy guys. It is what it is.

Hows the ducks Jerry?

jerry · 11-02-2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by wirehunt

Hows the ducks Jerry?

Man, we are flooded out bad right now. Some of the guys in some of the private clubs $$$ have benenfited a little by more corn being flooded. I have to wait for the water to go down a bit, then hope we don't get froze out.
Good to hear from ya,
Stay safe down there

10-21-2009, 12:29 AM	#1
Shootester Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 465	50 tips for the hunter 50 Great Hunting Tips \| Outdoor Life I don't know how many of you will find these useful, but I figured everybody will find atleast one thing that they could use. On page 10 is tips for cooking as well!

10-28-2009, 04:38 PM	#9
rimfirenut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: michigan Posts: 564	I think maybe stick to the topic and we'll all be fine... I have seen these before but still decent reading material.. Maybe a new thread on deer drives??? Nothin wrong with drives as long as it is executed properly and in a safe manner... Last edited by rimfirenut; 10-28-2009 at 04:40 PM.

10-31-2009, 03:49 PM	#11
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10-31-2009, 03:54 PM	#12
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11-01-2009, 02:39 AM	#15
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,215	Thanks Shootester I enjoyed reading all 50. Thank you for posting it...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

10-27-2009, 04:08 PM	#4
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10-28-2009, 04:32 PM	#8
bryarx Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SC Posts: 59	I don't believe it to be unethical to run dogs to chase out deer. Generally we take a square piece of property, set people up on the road at safe distances, use buck shot, let the dogs (or man drive) loose and wait. It's great for a mid day hunt, if you can get enough people and dogs together. It is legal in my state, and it is somewhat practiced. I have been on a few drives, and have yet to see anything, but you can shoot over bait here as well. That is how I was raised to deer hunt, the logic seems sound to me.

10-29-2009, 09:40 AM	#10
bryarx Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SC Posts: 59	Good point Rimfire. A lot of the tips I'd already heard or figured out. There were a couple I had never heard though. -I suppose I can see the thought behind this: 32 MOO-VING IN FOR THE KILL If it's a quiet day and you're trying to approach ducks by crawling through thick reeds, the noise you make will invariably spook birds before you're in range. If cattle are around, try this: Say "moo" loudly as you sneak, being as cowlike as possible. Don't laugh— it works like a charm. Ducks will tolerate cows, but not you. I don't know if impregnate was the best word, but I didn't know of this one either: 34 BUILD A BETTER FIRE Fire starters are vital to getting a fire going. I use several kinds. One of the best is easy to make at home. Impregnate cotton balls thoroughly with petroleum jelly. About seven of them will fit in a 35mm film canister. Each will burn for about three minutes. -I did enjoy the entire page of cooking tips: WILD GAME COOKING 45 TAME THE TASTE Some say strong, gamey venison is always the result of improper field care. That's not true. No matter how well you care for it, an animal can taste gamey because of its age, the rut, its diet or other factors. Here are ingredients that will tame strong meats: fresh ginger root, soy sauce, onion and garlic. Stir-fries are the best at masking a too-strong taste because the ingredients are in close contact with the surface of the meat. 46 GRIND YOUR OWN Want to try something wild? Get a small electric meat grinder for less than $100 and make your own burger and sausage. Try boning rabbits, squirrels and other game meats, and grinding the meat to make meatballs and burgers. Dazzle your pals with rabbit, squirrel and goose meatballs. 47 DISHWASHER FISH Here's a crazy technique I learned in the Arctic. Wrap a fish fillet along with butter, onions and seasonings in foil, then wrap it again. Put the whole works in the dishwasher (minus soap) and turn it on. Presto—when the cycles are completed your fish will be beautifully steamed. 48 SAUTE A SNAKE You've no doubt heard about rattlesnake meat being a delicacy, and that it tastes like chicken. It doesn't really taste like chicken, but it's tasty. To process, carefully remove the head and peel off the hide. Then, fillet the meat, which comes away in thin strips. Sauté in butter and garlic. It's really good stuff. 49 HOW TO EAT ANYTHING Offbeat critters such as porcupines, woodchucks, muskrats, raccoons and beavers can be outstanding table fare. Be sure to remove any fat and musk glands and cut the meat into chunks. Soak it in a mild salt solution for 12 hours (½ cup salt to one gallon of water) and cook it in a slow cooker with plenty of spices and vegetables—the more tomatoes, the better. Let it cook until the meat falls off the bones. You might be surprised. 50 STEW MADE EASY My favorite stew is called whatchagot, meaning whatever you've got in the back of your freezer. As I cook, I routinely freeze all the leftovers. When I have a dozen or so packages, I thaw everything and dump it in a huge pot. I let it simmer, add salt and pepper to taste and toss in some extras, such as rice and beans. It's always a hit, but please don't ask for a recipe. I don't have a clue. It's whatchagot.

11-01-2009, 01:24 AM	#14
tappedandtagged Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Southwest Arkansas Posts: 840 Blog Entries: 1	Oh, and another thing, I've noticed that some feel that its not "sportsman like" to shoot deer over bait. Where I'm at its too thick to hunt just about any other way. While spot and stalk would be a thrill, its just plain not possible in my area. Can't spot if the brush is thick and the trees are close together and the land is mostly "flat." (what we call mountains other states call a speed bump)

11-01-2009, 07:44 AM	#18
jerry Short Time Shirt Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 13,229 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Your gonna drive yourself crazy guys. It is what it is.