How comfortable would you be knowing that your kid's teacher is carrying concealed - Page 3

Oxford · 06-10-2007, 09:13 AM

We've asked for the right for all citizens to carry for many years. My stand on this is that any adult working in the school who has completed all the requirements for a CCW should be allowed to carry. That includes administrators, teachers, bus drivers, custodians, teacher aids, etc. Why should we discriminate against any particular occupational group? Of course, those requirements need to be rigid and enforced strictly.

I would want adults to be recertified periodically, just as any other citizen should have to requalify, too. That includes retraining in target practice, gun laws, and all the other course content as given in the original exam.

Mr.Wolf · 06-10-2007, 09:20 AM

With what Oxford has stated, if implemented I am sure will lessen the tendency of anyone intent on creating mayhem to be successful. I am all for it.

PelletHead · 06-10-2007, 01:59 PM

I agree with Oxford. A person wanting to do evil won't know who will do him. People who pass all qualifications should have the right to CCW to protect themselves and others from evil doers.

mosineer · 06-10-2007, 03:34 PM

As I said before, great idea, but between the media and the anti gun crowd (who I've noticed many are teachers/professors) it would most likely be a up hill battle. But if mandatory and with accountability maybe a good way to get to get the anti everything teachers/professors out of our classrooms.
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Bravo · 06-10-2007, 06:42 PM

When my dad grew up (in Maine), kids were allowed to bring their hunting rifles to school and store them in various places. This was so that they could easily go hunting right after school.

There weren't many school shootings then...

I would be 100% for teachers being able to carry a CCW as long as they pass a shooting test and mental test.

357mama · 06-10-2007, 08:19 PM

Although I agree with arming our teachers and/or rent a cops on school grounds, you're going to have a real hard time convincing a female teacher that this would deter violence and not promote it.

If you guys (and a lot of you have probably already done this) make a commitment to educating say five gun fearing women that it is not the guns who hurt people but people who hurt people, I feel that would go a long way towards turning this country around. Next time you go to a shooting range try and talk a female friend into tagging along. If we can convert the females (I am female, but was raised around guns) I highly believe that this country's gun laws are going to change drastically for the better! The female vote will put the gun owners views over the top come voting time.

Having just gotten back into guns myself after a long hiatus for no particular reason, my new goal is to try and get my female friends to the shooting range with me. I'm sorry, this kind of got off topic but in order for our teachers to be armed we first have to change the minds of the people who fear guns the most...the women (I don't mean that sarcastically or to put women down either)

sean46953 · 06-24-2007, 10:00 PM

I wish they would go for it! The high school I went to had armed on duty Police Officers, but for schools that don't have that ability, I think that a few of the teachers or higher uppers should be armed. Maybe Virgina Tech would of ended alot better if one of the staff had a .45 ready for that Korean psycho! Hopefully we won't ever run into something like that again, but the way the world runs now, I think we NEED armed staff at schools to better ensure the safety of the children. I think there should be a very strick test that should be passed and a mental/criminal back ground check first of coarse, but I believe it should be done.

troy2000 · 06-25-2007, 08:50 PM

Depends on the teachers. I remember a few I wouldn't have trusted with a pair of sharp tweezers because they were so clumsy and flaky, and a few others who thought they were Errol Flynn reincarnated.

I'd actually trust my sixteen year-old son with a gun before I'd trust any of his teachers. But I can't say the same about any of his friends (or his older brother, for that matter).

But all in all, it's probably a good idea to let some teachers carry. Assuming someone with good sense was sorting them out and training them...

RockB · 08-13-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dceptiv240

that's my kind of thinking! i only wish we could homeschool in groups with like minded parents!

Look around. You may be surprised. In Panama City there are at least two such groups. They get together once a week. Several of the Mom's have unique talents(art, music...) and teach a class in their specific area. Not sure about the laws in Alabama but in Florida this is OK. If you are homeschooling the parent just has to do the "majority" of the teaching.

If you have a school supply store I suggest going in there and checking with them. If there are groups of home schooling families that get together they will probably know about it.

It is a sacrifice but we think that it is well worth it. If they ever make it illegal to home school where we live, we will move somewhere else that will allow it.

ArkansasHunter · 08-13-2007, 12:27 AM

At this point in time I'm not comfortable with armed teachers in schools.
But I would like to see more trained LEO's on school campus'es.
The leo's are trained to handle these situation now and a teacher isn't ,and could panic.
I think cops would be better...A.H

backwoodsguy01 · 08-13-2007, 12:29 AM

I think it would be a great idea but the fact that their is basicly no way in hell it would ever pass. other than that i would love to have teachers cc it would make schools much more safe.

Idaho Dave · 08-13-2007, 09:10 AM

I would feel fine with the teachers having ccw rights/responsibility. even happier if they could still hang the paddle near the door and use it on kids who need it long before they are old enough to bring a gun to school. maybe that would prevent the need for the ccw.

george_l · 08-13-2007, 10:10 PM

I'm definately not against it. However, at the same time as it's been said before not all teachers are exactly the type of person I'd really be happy to see carrying. I never really liked most of my teachers, and I'd expect that most of them would be running away from a threat instead of running to it. I'd almost rather see a private security company hired.

Troy · 08-13-2007, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Wolf

Hi Folks,
I just wanted to know how comfortable you would feel knowing the members of the school administration your child or ward is attending were carrying concealed.
Please share with us.

i think it's a great idea. i'd be as comfortable as a pig in ...................

cubbieman · 08-13-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by george_l

I'm definately not against it. However, at the same time as it's been said before not all teachers are exactly the type of person I'd really be happy to see carrying. I never really liked most of my teachers, and I'd expect that most of them would be running away from a threat instead of running to it. I'd almost rather see a private security company hired.

i think if we had armed teachers the best course of action would be to have the students in a corner with the teacher watching the door to protect the students until the LEOs came to do something, which could be hours by the time they get the SWAT team organized, or till they were confident they could get the students out the door, with the gunman on the other side of the building, would be the best course of action

A-10 · 08-14-2007, 12:05 AM

The Virginia Tech situatuation could have been diffused very quickly and with a lot less bloodshed if the professors were armed.

Cyrille · 08-14-2007, 08:23 AM

If, as gaurenteed by the U.S. Constituion, the people did in fact have the right to arm themselves or not as they saw fit without gov't (all levels) interference than maybe, just maybe this country might be able to survive for another two hundred years. We, the choir, have been preached to by our own deacons, It's time for the deacons to get the word out to the general public. that the cleche is true "When guns are oulawed only outlaws will have guns."
The various levels of our gov't can pass a jillion laws regulating the availability of firearms but the fact that stands out is if these laws are not enforced than anyone with a little moxie and cash can and will obtain a gun on the "black market"; it will be like "proabition" all over again. I trully pity those who will come after us. Like the Mexican farmer said in "The Magnificent Seven," "we ourselves could stand it a little longer, but the children---"

Retiredswine · 08-15-2007, 01:27 AM

None, it works for the Israli's

cubbieman · 08-15-2007, 01:40 AM

israel doesnt mean shit for how american laws should be

Cyrille · 08-15-2007, 06:59 AM

What in the he$$ does Israel have to do with this subject? MOXIE? I just used that word it means fortatude, guts to do the right thing, something the politicans lack and have been lacking since Truman was president.

06-10-2007, 09:13 AM	#41
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,023 Blog Entries: 4	We've asked for the right for all citizens to carry for many years. My stand on this is that any adult working in the school who has completed all the requirements for a CCW should be allowed to carry. That includes administrators, teachers, bus drivers, custodians, teacher aids, etc. Why should we discriminate against any particular occupational group? Of course, those requirements need to be rigid and enforced strictly. I would want adults to be recertified periodically, just as any other citizen should have to requalify, too. That includes retraining in target practice, gun laws, and all the other course content as given in the original exam. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

06-10-2007, 09:20 AM	#42
Mr.Wolf Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: A Caribbean island Posts: 48	With what Oxford has stated, if implemented I am sure will lessen the tendency of anyone intent on creating mayhem to be successful. I am all for it. __________________ Only fools rush where angels fear to tread Conflict is inevitable, combat is an option

06-24-2007, 10:00 PM	#47
sean46953 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Marion, Indiana Posts: 357	I wish they would go for it! The high school I went to had armed on duty Police Officers, but for schools that don't have that ability, I think that a few of the teachers or higher uppers should be armed. Maybe Virgina Tech would of ended alot better if one of the staff had a .45 ready for that Korean psycho! Hopefully we won't ever run into something like that again, but the way the world runs now, I think we NEED armed staff at schools to better ensure the safety of the children. I think there should be a very strick test that should be passed and a mental/criminal back ground check first of coarse, but I believe it should be done. __________________ http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...00_0535100.jpgSean M. Hartman

06-25-2007, 08:50 PM	#48
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,467 Images: 9	Depends on the teachers. I remember a few I wouldn't have trusted with a pair of sharp tweezers because they were so clumsy and flaky, and a few others who thought they were Errol Flynn reincarnated. I'd actually trust my sixteen year-old son with a gun before I'd trust any of his teachers. But I can't say the same about any of his friends (or his older brother, for that matter). But all in all, it's probably a good idea to let some teachers carry. Assuming someone with good sense was sorting them out and training them... __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

06-10-2007, 01:59 PM	#43
PelletHead Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 34	I agree with Oxford. A person wanting to do evil won't know who will do him. People who pass all qualifications should have the right to CCW to protect themselves and others from evil doers.

06-10-2007, 03:34 PM	#44
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,299	As I said before, great idea, but between the media and the anti gun crowd (who I've noticed many are teachers/professors) it would most likely be a up hill battle. But if mandatory and with accountability maybe a good way to get to get the anti everything teachers/professors out of our classrooms. -------------------------------------------------------------------- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

06-10-2007, 06:42 PM	#45
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,899	When my dad grew up (in Maine), kids were allowed to bring their hunting rifles to school and store them in various places. This was so that they could easily go hunting right after school. There weren't many school shootings then... I would be 100% for teachers being able to carry a CCW as long as they pass a shooting test and mental test.

06-10-2007, 08:19 PM	#46
357mama Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6	Although I agree with arming our teachers and/or rent a cops on school grounds, you're going to have a real hard time convincing a female teacher that this would deter violence and not promote it. If you guys (and a lot of you have probably already done this) make a commitment to educating say five gun fearing women that it is not the guns who hurt people but people who hurt people, I feel that would go a long way towards turning this country around. Next time you go to a shooting range try and talk a female friend into tagging along. If we can convert the females (I am female, but was raised around guns) I highly believe that this country's gun laws are going to change drastically for the better! The female vote will put the gun owners views over the top come voting time. Having just gotten back into guns myself after a long hiatus for no particular reason, my new goal is to try and get my female friends to the shooting range with me. I'm sorry, this kind of got off topic but in order for our teachers to be armed we first have to change the minds of the people who fear guns the most...the women (I don't mean that sarcastically or to put women down either)

08-13-2007, 12:27 AM	#50
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,715	At this point in time I'm not comfortable with armed teachers in schools. But I would like to see more trained LEO's on school campus'es. The leo's are trained to handle these situation now and a teacher isn't ,and could panic. I think cops would be better...A.H

08-13-2007, 12:29 AM	#51
backwoodsguy01 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 13	I think it would be a great idea but the fact that their is basicly no way in hell it would ever pass. other than that i would love to have teachers cc it would make schools much more safe.

08-13-2007, 09:10 AM	#52
Idaho Dave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 535	I would feel fine with the teachers having ccw rights/responsibility. even happier if they could still hang the paddle near the door and use it on kids who need it long before they are old enough to bring a gun to school. maybe that would prevent the need for the ccw.

08-13-2007, 10:10 PM	#53
george_l Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sunny South Florida Posts: 72	I'm definately not against it. However, at the same time as it's been said before not all teachers are exactly the type of person I'd really be happy to see carrying. I never really liked most of my teachers, and I'd expect that most of them would be running away from a threat instead of running to it. I'd almost rather see a private security company hired.

08-14-2007, 12:05 AM	#56
A-10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 732	The Virginia Tech situatuation could have been diffused very quickly and with a lot less bloodshed if the professors were armed.

08-14-2007, 08:23 AM	#57
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,851	If, as gaurenteed by the U.S. Constituion, the people did in fact have the right to arm themselves or not as they saw fit without gov't (all levels) interference than maybe, just maybe this country might be able to survive for another two hundred years. We, the choir, have been preached to by our own deacons, It's time for the deacons to get the word out to the general public. that the cleche is true "When guns are oulawed only outlaws will have guns." The various levels of our gov't can pass a jillion laws regulating the availability of firearms but the fact that stands out is if these laws are not enforced than anyone with a little moxie and cash can and will obtain a gun on the "black market"; it will be like "proabition" all over again. I trully pity those who will come after us. Like the Mexican farmer said in "The Magnificent Seven," "we ourselves could stand it a little longer, but the children---"

08-15-2007, 01:27 AM	#58
Retiredswine Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 13	None, it works for the Israli's

08-15-2007, 01:40 AM	#59
cubbieman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,481	israel doesnt mean shit for how american laws should be

08-15-2007, 06:59 AM	#60
Cyrille Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 1,851	What in the he$$ does Israel have to do with this subject? MOXIE? I just used that word it means fortatude, guts to do the right thing, something the politicans lack and have been lacking since Truman was president.