Overheard at the range - Page 4

gregkilo · 03-08-2008, 11:37 AM

Training is essential, nuff said, but you must also have the right "mind set" to take another human life. Once that is established training and automatic response will take over. (fight or flight instincts)

ArkansasHunter · 03-08-2008, 12:15 PM

As mentioned in another post here, the 21 foot distance( rule) is used to show how fast an assailent can get to you.
Someone standing around 21 feet away can run and jump on you before you can draw your weapon supposibly.
My son proved he could to me, so personaly I would use this distance as a minimum if faced with a conforntation.
Though we hope we never have to draw our firearms we have to be prepared for "if" we do.
I'm proud to say that our future LEO's receive excellent training in Arkansas at our Acadomy which my son attendended.
He showed me a lot of things he learned when he came home on the week ends.

Learn your kill zone with 21ft. being the minimum and have your gun out and ready to fire.
BUT before your assailent enters your kill zone you need to startle them with yelling and yes I said yelling GET ON THE F_ _KING GROUND NOW !!! of course if there weilding a gun you hope you take them out first.

Shotbreak · 03-08-2008, 02:47 PM

7 yards, 7 feet. Doesn't matter. If you percieve the threat is there protect yourself. Just be able to articulate it later.

Also, Jennifer Aniston would feel more threatened by a knofe than Hulk Hogan

mitch_mckee · 03-08-2008, 03:10 PM

Considering that an assailant can shoot further than 7 yds., the guy was just silly.

In Tennessee, the rule is that a reasonable person would be in fear of his life or sever injury.

Shotbreak · 03-11-2008, 07:37 PM

Not really a good idea for a new students advice. Gives them the wrong parameters rather than dealing with threat levels and responses. Good practice range though

dilagaf2 · 03-14-2008, 08:18 PM

The most important thing about having to shoot someone is not figured out or measured in distance.If you shoot it's suppose to be an auto response due to emminant threat of death or injury.Its not like if you are in a situation that requires you to shoot;that you'll be thinking of distance ,it should be automatic and the only way to make things better is to practise different scenerios in defensive situations.

rdale501 · 04-11-2008, 08:41 PM

The point our instructor made was at 21 feet unless you have your weapon drawn and pointing, the attacter can reach you before you draw. Thus the 21 feet min. is the closest to allow anyone to approach if you are not sure of their intentions.

03-08-2008, 02:47 PM	#63
Shotbreak Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ocala, Fl Posts: 22	Overheard at the range 7 yards, 7 feet. Doesn't matter. If you percieve the threat is there protect yourself. Just be able to articulate it later. Also, Jennifer Aniston would feel more threatened by a knofe than Hulk Hogan Last edited by Shotbreak; 03-08-2008 at 02:49 PM. Reason: added ubfi

03-11-2008, 07:37 PM	#65
Shotbreak Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ocala, Fl Posts: 22	overheard at the range Not really a good idea for a new students advice. Gives them the wrong parameters rather than dealing with threat levels and responses. Good practice range though

03-14-2008, 08:18 PM	#66
dilagaf2 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: COLD TUNRA LAND Posts: 14	defensive shooting The most important thing about having to shoot someone is not figured out or measured in distance.If you shoot it's suppose to be an auto response due to emminant threat of death or injury.Its not like if you are in a situation that requires you to shoot;that you'll be thinking of distance ,it should be automatic and the only way to make things better is to practise different scenerios in defensive situations.

03-08-2008, 11:37 AM	#61
gregkilo Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherokee Co. Alabama Posts: 67	Training is essential, nuff said, but you must also have the right "mind set" to take another human life. Once that is established training and automatic response will take over. (fight or flight instincts)

03-08-2008, 12:15 PM	#62
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,709	As mentioned in another post here, the 21 foot distance( rule) is used to show how fast an assailent can get to you. Someone standing around 21 feet away can run and jump on you before you can draw your weapon supposibly. My son proved he could to me, so personaly I would use this distance as a minimum if faced with a conforntation. Though we hope we never have to draw our firearms we have to be prepared for "if" we do. I'm proud to say that our future LEO's receive excellent training in Arkansas at our Acadomy which my son attendended. He showed me a lot of things he learned when he came home on the week ends. Learn your kill zone with 21ft. being the minimum and have your gun out and ready to fire. BUT before your assailent enters your kill zone you need to startle them with yelling and yes I said yelling GET ON THE F_ _KING GROUND NOW !!! of course if there weilding a gun you hope you take them out first.

03-08-2008, 03:10 PM	#64
mitch_mckee Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,085 Images: 3	Considering that an assailant can shoot further than 7 yds., the guy was just silly. In Tennessee, the rule is that a reasonable person would be in fear of his life or sever injury.

04-11-2008, 08:41 PM	#67
rdale501 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 398	The point our instructor made was at 21 feet unless you have your weapon drawn and pointing, the attacter can reach you before you draw. Thus the 21 feet min. is the closest to allow anyone to approach if you are not sure of their intentions.