Dewat

Rambo · 11-02-2009, 06:39 AM

Deactivated war trophy's had to have a plug welded into the breach in order to be classified DEWAT. That is my understanding over the years. What about an old, double barrel shotgun that a person wants to display above their fireplace. If steel plugs were welded into the breech, thereby rendering the firearm unusable, would that be considered a non-firearm, as it cannot fire a projectile? The reason is a friend of mine wants to buy one from me but has a record that would prohibit the possesion of a firearm. He wants it for display over his fireplace.

Sarge · 11-03-2009, 01:31 AM

That one should be cleared with the court that had jurrisdiction on his conviction. The laws and the interpitation of them varries in different places.
Sarge

Mooseman684 · 11-03-2009, 02:22 AM

The receiver is Classified as the firearm so NO he cant even do that and be legal , because the barrels could be changed out and a working firearm made out of it...
Rich

Rambo · 11-04-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

The receiver is Classified as the firearm so NO he cant even do that and be legal , because the barrels could be changed out and a working firearm made out of it...
Rich

That makes sense. Thanks.

pico · 11-04-2009, 09:41 AM

Tell him to buy an older blackpowder one from the mid 1800's. Those are not classified as a firearm by the BATFE. I think those would be legal to own by anyone... but don't quote me on it.

Whootsinator · 11-04-2009, 10:57 PM

I can't see the barrel plug not being allowed... Saw an inch off of the barrel, and you have a working firearm.

twtalbot · 11-19-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pico

Tell him to buy an older blackpowder one from the mid 1800's. Those are not classified as a firearm by the BATFE. I think those would be legal to own by anyone... but don't quote me on it.

...or even a muzzleloading replica-depending on the state. Federal law doesn't recognize or regulate as a firearm any gun that loads with loose powder, shot, and external priming.

Cyrano · Today, 07:00 PM

I checked the BATFE book that holds all the state laws on firearms for Iowa. It is silent on deactivated war trophy requirements. Offering a strictly personal opinion here I'd say if he removed the firing pins and then welded the breech shut so it could not be broken open, he might be safe displaying an old side by side shotgun. But he'd better check with a lawyer in his state that specializes in firearms law to be sure.

I would say your friend might do better applying to the Governor of Iowa for a pardon, if his crime was not something heinous.

11-02-2009, 06:39 AM	#1
Rambo Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,324	Dewat Deactivated war trophy's had to have a plug welded into the breach in order to be classified DEWAT. That is my understanding over the years. What about an old, double barrel shotgun that a person wants to display above their fireplace. If steel plugs were welded into the breech, thereby rendering the firearm unusable, would that be considered a non-firearm, as it cannot fire a projectile? The reason is a friend of mine wants to buy one from me but has a record that would prohibit the possesion of a firearm. He wants it for display over his fireplace. __________________ I live to hunt and hunt to live.

11-03-2009, 01:31 AM	#2
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 390	That one should be cleared with the court that had jurrisdiction on his conviction. The laws and the interpitation of them varries in different places. Sarge __________________ Calling illegal aliens undocumented immigrants is like calling drug dealers unlicensed pharmacists!

11-03-2009, 02:22 AM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,318 Images: 2	The receiver is Classified as the firearm so NO he cant even do that and be legal , because the barrels could be changed out and a working firearm made out of it... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

11-04-2009, 09:41 AM	#5
pico Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 205	Tell him to buy an older blackpowder one from the mid 1800's. Those are not classified as a firearm by the BATFE. I think those would be legal to own by anyone... but don't quote me on it.

11-04-2009, 10:57 PM	#6
Whootsinator Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 582	I can't see the barrel plug not being allowed... Saw an inch off of the barrel, and you have a working firearm.

Today, 07:00 PM	#8
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,936	I checked the BATFE book that holds all the state laws on firearms for Iowa. It is silent on deactivated war trophy requirements. Offering a strictly personal opinion here I'd say if he removed the firing pins and then welded the breech shut so it could not be broken open, he might be safe displaying an old side by side shotgun. But he'd better check with a lawyer in his state that specializes in firearms law to be sure. I would say your friend might do better applying to the Governor of Iowa for a pardon, if his crime was not something heinous.