long range caliber?

at4rxj · 04-27-2007, 03:46 PM

What do you guys recommend or use for long range? I'd like to do minimum 500yd competition, and eventually move up to a max of 1000. I'm considering...

22-250
25-06
260
6.5x55
270 wsm
7mm wsm
7mm rem mag
30-06
308

This will be on a mauser action, so the longer ones will be a lot less work to fit, but not necessarily a deciding factor. What do you recommend? The WSM rounds are super flat shooting, but haven't seen them or heard them talked about too much for this use, so not sure about that... Please give me your input or recommend others.

billy · 04-27-2007, 05:12 PM

well in the military matches they use .308 so i guess thats what i would recommend.

JoeLee · 04-27-2007, 06:04 PM

I agree with billy,if your going for a 1000yds,Military match loadings in 308.

Mooseman684 · 04-27-2007, 06:47 PM

.308 being the smallest
.300 Win Mag next
.50 BMG ...the Best !
Rich

lefty o · 04-27-2007, 07:03 PM

308 ackley improved, 300win mag, or 338 win mag. anything on your list will get a bullet to a target at 1000yds, but the key to better accuracy is keeping the bullet supersonic all the way there.

Midas · 04-27-2007, 07:09 PM

I would go with the .300 Win Mag, as it has been noted as having very good accuracy at 1000 yards.

billy · 04-27-2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 338WinMag

I would go with the .300 Win Mag, as it has been noted as having very good accuracy at 1000 yards.

didnt you mean the .338winmag?

lefty o · 04-27-2007, 07:33 PM

the 300win mag at one time was a heavy hitter in 1000yd competetive shooting. i should also mention the 6.5-284 as another good choice.

at4rxj · 04-27-2007, 10:03 PM

I'm going to be using a yugo m24/47 action to build on, and I don't think that a 30-06 will fit the more I research it, much less anything bigger. I've been looking at the 7mm wsm off and on, and it seems like a good bet, but I'm wondering why I haven't really heard of these wsm rounds being used too much for this. Maybe because they're fairly new compared to these others?

bigandrich44 · 04-27-2007, 10:45 PM

.416 Barret I think it is? Also, knock off anything below .26 caliber. Too little weight, and too little energy. The wind will make the bullet hit the target next to yours lol.

toolman · 04-27-2007, 10:46 PM

I'm assuming since you are using a Mauser action, that you aren't planning on shooting in competition? If you are just planning on long-range paper-punching for fun, I would go with a proven cal. that won't beat you up like the 6.5x55, .26-06, etc. Lefty's suggestion of the 6.5x.284 is another good choice if you hand-load, although, I believe a couple of co.s are making loaded ammo now. For economy, it would be hard to beat the .308 due to its' popularity. In the end it comes down to personal preference, so I would build my own wildcat .204 STW pushing a 12 gr. bullet @ approx. 69,334.31 fps.

Barrel life sux and the bullet explodes upon exiting the barrel, but it would be all mine!

HEMI · 04-27-2007, 11:15 PM

300win/h&h or a 338 lapua. but a 50 is better.

at4rxj · 04-28-2007, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toolman

.204 STW pushing a 12 gr. bullet @ approx. 69,334.31 fps.

LMAO

lefty o · 04-28-2007, 04:51 AM

the WSM's are being used in 1000yd BR. the problem is going to be getting one to feed through a mauser. cheaper and easier to build one on a savage action.

bigandrich44 · 04-28-2007, 08:27 AM

I still advise the .416 Barret. It stays supersonic up to 1.3 miles, and holds half MOA out to 1500 yards with a good rifle and good ammo. It also shoots flatter than a .50, and kicks less.

toolman · 04-28-2007, 09:58 AM

Another option would be one of the Lazzeroni's. Lazzeroni Rifles Home Page

lefty o · 04-28-2007, 07:38 PM

you dont really need a cartridge thats going to beat the heck out of you for 1000yd shooting.

myarmor · 04-29-2007, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by at4rxj

I'm going to be using a yugo m24/47 action to build on, and I don't think that a 30-06 will fit the more I research it, much less anything bigger. I've been looking at the 7mm wsm off and on, and it seems like a good bet, but I'm wondering why I haven't really heard of these wsm rounds being used too much for this. Maybe because they're fairly new compared to these others?

Here is an interesting read in case you missed it:
Vince B's 7mm WSM Record-Breaker (7 Win Short Mag)

A good Mauser action is a strong platform to build on for a hunting rifle, but to really compete now you would be better off building off a Remington 700 action or even a Savage action as lefty-o said. If you haven't already have a good browse through and look at the rifles and calibers used on this page. They are the best of the best.
Not to say one can not build an accurate rifle off of a Mauser action, but there are better actions for building a custom target grade rifle.

bigandrich44 · 04-29-2007, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lefty o

you dont really need a cartridge thats going to beat the heck out of you for 1000yd shooting.

Lefty, most of these guns are EXTREMELY heavy. Like 30-40 pounds heavy. This isnt a hunting rifle he's gonna shoot. How come he hasn't replied to this thread?

lefty o · 04-29-2007, 06:43 PM

if were talking about BR, there's a few different weight classes- all the rifles are not heavy. if you'll do some research, you'll find most are not shooting big bruisers. now if we're talking other than BR, nobody is shooting 40# rifles.

04-27-2007, 03:46 PM	#1
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	long range caliber? What do you guys recommend or use for long range? I'd like to do minimum 500yd competition, and eventually move up to a max of 1000. I'm considering... 22-250 25-06 260 6.5x55 270 wsm 7mm wsm 7mm rem mag 30-06 308 This will be on a mauser action, so the longer ones will be a lot less work to fit, but not necessarily a deciding factor. What do you recommend? The WSM rounds are super flat shooting, but haven't seen them or heard them talked about too much for this use, so not sure about that... Please give me your input or recommend others.

04-27-2007, 06:47 PM	#4
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,678 Images: 2	.308 being the smallest .300 Win Mag next .50 BMG ...the Best ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-27-2007, 07:09 PM	#6
Midas Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Springdale, Arkansas Posts: 3,807 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	I would go with the .300 Win Mag, as it has been noted as having very good accuracy at 1000 yards. __________________ "Recoil lasts for a second, gravity lasts forever"

04-27-2007, 10:45 PM	#10
bigandrich44 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,013	.416 Barret I think it is? Also, knock off anything below .26 caliber. Too little weight, and too little energy. The wind will make the bullet hit the target next to yours lol. __________________ http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1...eehobosig9.png

04-27-2007, 10:46 PM	#11
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,582 Blog Entries: 22	I'm assuming since you are using a Mauser action, that you aren't planning on shooting in competition? If you are just planning on long-range paper-punching for fun, I would go with a proven cal. that won't beat you up like the 6.5x55, .26-06, etc. Lefty's suggestion of the 6.5x.284 is another good choice if you hand-load, although, I believe a couple of co.s are making loaded ammo now. For economy, it would be hard to beat the .308 due to its' popularity. In the end it comes down to personal preference, so I would build my own wildcat .204 STW pushing a 12 gr. bullet @ approx. 69,334.31 fps. Barrel life sux and the bullet explodes upon exiting the barrel, but it would be all mine! __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

04-27-2007, 05:12 PM	#2
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,157 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	well in the military matches they use .308 so i guess thats what i would recommend.

04-27-2007, 06:04 PM	#3
JoeLee Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: North New York State. Posts: 1,241	I agree with billy,if your going for a 1000yds,Military match loadings in 308.

04-27-2007, 07:03 PM	#5
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	308 ackley improved, 300win mag, or 338 win mag. anything on your list will get a bullet to a target at 1000yds, but the key to better accuracy is keeping the bullet supersonic all the way there.

04-27-2007, 07:33 PM	#8
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	the 300win mag at one time was a heavy hitter in 1000yd competetive shooting. i should also mention the 6.5-284 as another good choice.

04-27-2007, 10:03 PM	#9
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 856 Images: 10	I'm going to be using a yugo m24/47 action to build on, and I don't think that a 30-06 will fit the more I research it, much less anything bigger. I've been looking at the 7mm wsm off and on, and it seems like a good bet, but I'm wondering why I haven't really heard of these wsm rounds being used too much for this. Maybe because they're fairly new compared to these others?

04-27-2007, 11:15 PM	#12
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 726	300win/h&h or a 338 lapua. but a 50 is better.

04-28-2007, 04:51 AM	#14
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	the WSM's are being used in 1000yd BR. the problem is going to be getting one to feed through a mauser. cheaper and easier to build one on a savage action.

04-28-2007, 08:27 AM	#15
bigandrich44 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,013	I still advise the .416 Barret. It stays supersonic up to 1.3 miles, and holds half MOA out to 1500 yards with a good rifle and good ammo. It also shoots flatter than a .50, and kicks less. __________________ http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1...eehobosig9.png

04-28-2007, 09:58 AM	#16
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 5,582 Blog Entries: 22	Another option would be one of the Lazzeroni's. Lazzeroni Rifles Home Page __________________ Don't be messin' with my gun!

04-28-2007, 07:38 PM	#17
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	you dont really need a cartridge thats going to beat the heck out of you for 1000yd shooting.

04-29-2007, 06:43 PM	#20
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,806	if were talking about BR, there's a few different weight classes- all the rifles are not heavy. if you'll do some research, you'll find most are not shooting big bruisers. now if we're talking other than BR, nobody is shooting 40# rifles.