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Old 05-14-2008, 08:50 PM   #1
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Taking the CZ American to Camp Perry

We have put together a crew to travel to Perry for the National CMP Sporter Match on July 20th. I am going to use my CZ 452 American with a Sightron 6X42 HBRII.



Wish I could shoot a score like my February score from our local monthly match:



We tend to simply staple new centers over the last one rather than change full targets for each string. So, the bottom target tells the story.



Hope I can hold that steady at the show. However, I have heard the conditions (wind, rain, almost 300 CMP Sporter shooters, etc) can be challenging. Man, it ought to make a heck of a roadtrip for us no matter how well we shoot.
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wow that is some good shooting^^ nice rifle and good luck at camp perry
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wow that is some good shooting^^ nice rifle and good luck at camp perry
Thanks. We will need it.
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Best of luck to ya, but most of all, have fun.
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Best of luck to you this July at Camp Perry.

As for the image of the target you posted, what range were you shooting at? Is that the same as what it will be at Camp Perry also?
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As for the image of the target you posted, what range were you shooting at? Is that the same as what it will be at Camp Perry also?
Yes, we shoot the identical (right by the book) CMP Sporter Match at our club on the fourth Saturday of each month. We really like this match. It is one of the best venues ever conceived to teach all around rifle marksmanship skills. The course of fire is:

10 rounds in 10 minutes fired prone at 50 yards

10 rounds rapid fire at 50 yards fired in two mini 30 second strings (25 seconds for semi-autos) - start standing then go to prone.

10 rounds in 10 minutes fired from sitting or kneeling at 50 yards.

10 rounds rapid fire at 50 yards fired in two mini 30 second strings (25 seconds for semi-autos) - start standing then go to sitting or kneeling.

10 rounds in 10 minutes fired offhand with no sling allowed from 25 yards.

10 rounds rapid fire at 25 yards fired in two mini 30 second strings (25 seconds for semi-autos) - start standing with rifle butt at hip level.

And, their is a 10 minute sighter string at the beginning in which the shooter can fire an unlimited number of shots from the position(s) of his/her choice.

The target seems large and unchallenging to the casual observer. But, when they try the match and especially experience the rapid fire strings they usually get hooked on the match. It is like the best video games in that they are easy to play and hard to master.

The rifle and sights (open, peep, or scope) cannot exceed a weight of 7.5 lbs and the trigger has to be capable of lifting a three pound weight without releasing. The magazine and sling can be detached for the weigh in. There is "O class" for open sighted rifles and there is the "T class" for rifles equipped with scopes or peep sights.

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Great shooting
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Good luck at Camp Perry
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Sounds like a great time sheffieldshootr. I wish they had a place like that near me let alone one that had/has matches like that. As i previously said, good luck in July. Be sure and post the results, no matter what they are.

And are all of you guys, the ones going with you, all shooting in the same class using the same caliber? What rifles, if other then what you have, brand and caliber wise, do they all have, just your group? If it isn't too much trouble. lol
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Sounds like a great time sheffieldshootr. I wish they had a place like that near me let alone one that had/has matches like that. As i previously said, good luck in July. Be sure and post the results, no matter what they are.

And are all of you guys, the ones going with you, all shooting in the same class using the same caliber? What rifles, if other then what you have, brand and caliber wise, do they all have, just your group? If it isn't too much trouble. lol
Yes, at this time we have four committed to go and preregistered for the Sporter Match.

Dwight is using an Izhmash Biathlon Basic with a Leupold EFR on it.
Richard is taking a CZ Classic which was the forunner to the American with a Nikon fixed four on it.
Andrew is competing in "O class" with his CZ Ultra Lux.
And, myself with the American.

We are also excited about hosting our first sanctioned CMP Sporter Match at our own range on May 24th. Hope we have a good turnout. Since it is sanctioned, our scores will count for official CMP recording.

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Sounds like a great time sheffieldshootr. I wish they had a place like that near me let alone one that had/has matches like that.
We are kinda rimfire crazy at my club with a different .22 match every Saturday morning. Here is a rundown of our fun .22 matches (CZs are popular - trying to stay at least partly with the theme of this forum ):

I will list the title of the match, the date it is shot on, the coarse of fire, and the match's rules pertaining to the appropriate firearm type and equipment.

Fifty Fifty Sporter

First Saturday - 10 AM for November through March and 9 AM for April through October.

From 50 yards the shooter engages 50 metallic silhouettes with 50 rounds of .22 short, long, or long rifle ammo in two 25 shot strings of 10 minutes each. The winner leaves the fewest metallic animals standing. Fired offhand and unsupported with the use of a sling prohibited. Classes - optic sight, open sight, and Prairie Doggin for shooters 12 and under or 70 and over.

These matches have gotten quite popular and we average between 10 and 20 shooters. The match has been featured in the Times Daily sports section. We have added extra racks as of late to enable us to move more shooters through at a faster rate. We have run up to five racks with five shooters in each string (of course).

The rifle must be a .22 "sporter" with the match coordinator holding the right to reject questionable rifles. No palm rests or thumb-hole stocks are allowed. We have scales on hand and the rifle's weight with its scope and/or peep or open sights must not exceed 8.5 lbs. Triggers must simply be "safe". The rifles detachable box magazine must be removed before weigh in. Tube repeaters are cleared and then weighed. Peep/receiver sighted rifles must compete in the optic sighted class.

Twenty-five Fifty Pistol

Second Saturday - same start times

Same as the 50/50 rifle match save for the fact that it is fired from 25 instead of 50 yards and pistols and revolvers are used instead of long guns. Any safe .22 pistol or revolver is eligible and we offer the same classes as above.

This match is dominated by open sighted .22 semi automatic handguns with scopes offering little advantage other than to those with vision problems. It moves quicker than the rifle match(just because most shooters are taking only 3 or 4 minutes of the allocated 10 minute time frame) and we have experienced growth similar to the sporter match. We used three racks last Saturday.

USBR Rimfire Benchrest

Third Saturday - same start times

This is a 50 yard bench rest match for .22 rifles. It is an extreme accuracy sport with equipment playing as much of as a part as marksmanship. We go by USBR rules and shoot their sporter and unlimited classes. The target is a 28 bull paper target of very high quality paper. The shooter has twenty minutes to fire unlimited sighters at the top three bulls and 25 shots for score on the lower 25 bulls (one each). We have thrown in semi-auto and two buck a box classes (cheap ammo) for fun. The results are highly dependent each month on the wind, humidity, light, and temperature. But, at least everybody is usually in the same boat.

Please refer to the USBR's official website for the specific rules. However, I will go ahead and point out that the USBR Factory Sporter Class restricts the rifle's weight with scope to 8.5 lbs and the rules basically require that the rifle must be a mass produced sporter with limited trigger work and stock bedding allowed. The trigger mod's are limited to filing and polishing and spring replacement. For example, the tube that sleeves the trigger pivot pin in a CZ Brookes trigger kit is not allowed. Of course, a replacement trigger like the Timney, Rifle Basix, etc is out as well. The Unlimited Class is well, unlimited. Interestingly enough both classes allow any power of scope. I would advise at least a 24 to 36 power scope for either class. The target's ten ring is only a tenth of an inch in diameter!

CMP Sporter

Fourth Saturday - same start times.

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Thank you for taking the time to fully explain and let me know who all will be using what. Sounds like a great time to me. Wish I were there or at least going. lol But as I was always told, wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one you have more of. lmao I always hated hearing that but it is indeed the truth. You can wish all you want, they never come true.
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