I picked one up at the gunshow yesterday and I'm curious if anyone has one of these rifles. This one is chambered for th 7.62 x 54. I will post pics when I find my camera.
I've found ammo, brass, and dies for this obsolete cartridge.
Anyone have loading data for the 7.62 x 45?
Thanks
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I picked one up at the gunshow yesterday and I'm curious if anyone has one of these rifles. This one is chambered for th 7.62 x 54. I will post pics when I find my camera.
I've found ammo, brass, and dies for this obsolete cartridge.
Anyone have loading data for the 7.62 x 45?
Thanks
congrats on your find . i haven't seen one for sale in 10 or more years and those had some kinda rubber coat on the wood. are they set up like an SKS?
congrats on your find . i haven't seen one for sale in 10 or more years and those had some kinda rubber coat on the wood. are they set up like an SKS?
I guess it is a little bit like an SKS but I think the appearance exceeds that of an SKS. It looks so compact.
Ammo is expensive but Buffalo Arms has a large variety of metric calibers, brass and loaded ammo.
This needs some refinishing on parts but that's my favorite hobby...<smile>
The bayonet is a bit loose.
Now to find a manual for it.
Neat rifle! But you say it's 7.62x54R? That ammo's hardly obsolete, expensive, or hard to find. That's the same caliber that all Mosin Nagant rifle use, and countless other Commie rifles and machineguns. Possibly more prolific than .30-06, and there's TONS of it available as surplus for cheap.
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Oldjarhead thats such a nice **** rifle. I would like to come across one of those. Its in really nice condition also. Ammo is also really reasonable and im sure your gonna have fun with it. Nice addition!
Neat rifle! But you say it's 7.62x54R? That ammo's hardly obsolete, expensive, or hard to find. That's the same caliber that all Mosin Nagant rifle use, and countless other Commie rifles and machineguns. Possibly more prolific than .30-06, and there's TONS of it available as surplus for cheap.
i think he put the 5 before the 4 and corrected it at the end. it's an odd round used by the Czech's to show the Soviets you can't cram everything you make down our throat's. my thoughts
Neat rifle! But you say it's 7.62x54R? That ammo's hardly obsolete, expensive, or hard to find. That's the same caliber that all Mosin Nagant rifle use, and countless other Commie rifles and machineguns. Possibly more prolific than .30-06, and there's TONS of it available as surplus for cheap.
No, it's not a 54R it's a x45.
And it is difficult to find...or was until I discovered Buffalo; runs about $2.30 a shot for loaded stuff but half that if I buy the brass and reload.
It would be nice if the 7.62x45 was as prolific as the 54R though.
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i think he put the 5 before the 4 and corrected it at the end. it's an odd round used by the Czech's to show the Soviets you can't cram everything you make down our throat's. my thoughts
I put it down right the first time. The Vz52 was originally chambered for the 7.62x45 but around 1957 or so the Soviet Union pressure the Czech's to adopt the standart commie 7.62x39 round. The rechambering changed the rifle designation to Vz52/57. From what I found so far the 7.62x39 was not reliable in the converted rifles but the Czech's kept it in service until they adopted the Vz58 which appears to be a version of the AK-47.
The 7.62x45 was a better cartridge for function reliability and ballistically to the 7.62x39. I guess the Soviet Union had more clout than the Czech's could counter.
I don't have the ammo yet so all I did today was research the beast. The thing is smaller than a garand but weighs in about the same.
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Last edited by oldjarhead; 05-23-2011 at 09:00 PM.
No, it's not a 54R it's a x45.
And it is difficult to find...or was until I discovered Buffalo; runs about $2.30 a shot for loaded stuff but half that if I buy the brass and reload.
It would be nice if the 7.62x45 was as prolific as the 54R though.
Ah....sorry. I'd never heard of that caliber. Still a very cool looking rifle!
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Ah....sorry. I'd never heard of that caliber. Still a very cool looking rifle!
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Neither had I until I bought this thing. It falls right between the 7.62x51 and the 7.62x39...makes a nice step-down cartridge display. I'm anxious to receive the ammo to check out function.
From what I've read, this caliber went obsolete about 60 years ago.
I love the design.
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Last edited by oldjarhead; 05-24-2011 at 01:39 AM.
Never saw any around here, but I did manage to pick up
a 52/57 a few years ago, in 7.62x39, which appears unfired.
According to Canadian Law, the mag has been blocked so as
to hold only 5 rounds. Maybe I'll test fire it someday! LOL
Never saw any around here, but I did manage to pick up
a 52/57 a few years ago, in 7.62x39, which appears unfired.
According to Canadian Law, the mag has been blocked so as
to hold only 5 rounds. Maybe I'll test fire it someday! LOL
KarlB
How could you hold off so long? <grin>
Do you have any idea why the fore-end is wood and metal?
I haven't a clue how to dismantle this but I sort of think the metal part of the fore-end covers the gas system.
I have a manual on the way that should be here Friday.
There's just something about these old firearms that peeks my interest.
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Do you have any idea why the fore-end is wood and metal?
I haven't a clue how to dismantle this but I sort of think the metal part of the fore-end covers the gas system.
I have a manual on the way that should be here Friday.
There's just something about these old firearms that peeks my interest.
Been a LONG time since I rinsed the old girl out of the cosmoline, but I recall that the back end, at least, strips pretty much like an SKS. And I have no idea why it's taken me so long to get some of my beasts out of their closet!
Metal forend/handguard - why? Good question! Cosmetically I really like it! Practically, it may dissipate some heat after extended firing, but probably it was cheaper to stamp out a piece of metal than to fabricate a wood handguard.
Enjoy the beastie!! May you find an everlasting supply of fodder for her!
Do you have any idea why the fore-end is wood and metal?
I haven't a clue how to dismantle this but I sort of think the metal part of the fore-end covers the gas system.
I have a manual on the way that should be here Friday.
There's just something about these old firearms that peeks my interest.
OJH, I know nothing about them and info seems pretty scarce around the web, but here are some disassembly instructions from a different forum that might help you out.
I have the 52/57 mentioned but it has never been unreliable. The ammo is certainly easier to find than the x45 round.
You guys also mention the 58’s. I certainly like these far more than the AK’s
The unreliable statement was made from articles I've read on the conversion. Perhaps the 52's that were converted were less functional than the 52/57's that were subsequently manufactured. Since you have been shooting the 52/57 I'll believe you over what some writer says. A hearty Bingo on the ammo statement...alot less expensive also.
Unlike the U.S. maybe the Czech's would have replaced their unreliable weapons; which they apparently did with they went to the 58.
As for the Vz 58, that's even better looking than the AK...hmmmm...maybe I'll look for one of them now.
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ChaZam...I just finished breaking the 52 down using the information you forwarded to me...It was sooooo easy with the step-by-step. Thank you for finding the info for me.
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