WWII Nazi CZ27

vonmeer · 01-12-2005, 02:03 PM

WWII Nazi CZ27 (pistole Modell 27)
This gun is is a high polish officers PM27, marked with nazi waffenmarks.
BOHMISCHE WAFFENFABRIKA.G.IN PRAG

Serial Number 46922

The Original Holster is dated 1941 and I have the original capture papers from WWII. Is this gun from 1941? or 39-40?

NRAJOE · 01-12-2005, 02:07 PM

Oooooo! I don't know, but its very cool! Been wanting one of those...nice example! :right:

NRAJOE · 01-12-2005, 02:10 PM

CESKA ZBROJOVKA in Prague started manufacture of the Cz27 in 1927; by the time of the German Occupation in 1939 about 15,000 had been produced. Most of these went to the Czechoslovakian Police and civilian markets. The Czech Police retained their weapons during the German Occupation.

Some of the first occupation pistols roduced bear the "CESKA" legend on top of the slide, and AKAH or GECO German commerical import logos. A few of the early occupation pistols bear German Army acceptance stamps and /or test proofs.

The German name for the Ceska Zbrojovka factory was Bohmishe Waffenfabrik A.G. (Bohemian Weapons Factory, Inc) and the "BOHMISCHE" slide legend was adopted during 1941 shortly after occupation military production started. Variations are based on slide legend ("CESKA", "BOHMISCHE" and "fnh") and subvariations are based on finish (high-polish blue, military-blue and phosphate). Serial numbers range from about 20000 to over 475000 for a total production of 455000. About 9000 pistols with the fnh code (sn476000-485000 some with the E/WaA76 stamp) were produced after the war. A few pistols with the 'BOHMISHE" slide legend are without serial number and bear a Nazi eagle 4 and a U prefix number etched on the slide. These may have been pre-military production test pistols.--"AXIS PISTOLS" by Jan C. Still

In 1945 and 46 the Czech Ministry of Defense ordered 45,000. The pistol was phased out in 1949 for the CZ50. Production had reached over 620,000 pistols. There are two rare variations and those are a .22 long rifle and a variant to use a sliencer.--"Know Your Czechoslovakian Pistols" by R.J. Berger

NRAJOE · 01-12-2005, 06:57 PM

These guys might know:

http://p201.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792

Dennis · 01-15-2005, 08:10 AM

wayy cool

gunssb · 01-15-2005, 10:04 AM

droool :right:

jla8864 · 04-30-2008, 09:42 PM

Good evening to all. Need your help.
I have a CZ27 Pistol with holster, their stats are:
Pistol -
SN 143*** all parts matching.
BOHMISCHE WAFFENFABRIK A.G. IN PRAG
WA(Eagle)76
Highly Polished in the White, again Highly Polished in the White.
Mottled Brown, Tan & White Grips, with CZ crest in center of grips on each side.
Holster -
Black
Marked from left to right -
CZ in Circle
WA(Eagle)76
1942
P. MOD. 27

What do I have if anything?
Thank you in advance.
Jere
30 April 08

AJ100 · 05-01-2008, 05:28 PM

Anyone interested in a CZ 27, I have one for sale, fnh slide legend, pistol, two mags, one mag has spring missing but follower is there, original holster. Small crack on bottom of left grip nest to mag release. Asking $450.00 plus ship/ins. to FFL. Pics on request. aj100x101@hotmail.com
Thanks AJ

GlockMeister · 05-01-2008, 05:38 PM

, That's a really,

, nice looking piece of history,

you have there. I'm sure not

jealous

of you at all. And I certainly wouldn't

like to have something like that.

not at all.

Very very nice looking and excellent piece of history. Where's you find that and if I might ask, how $$$$ for it?

GlockMeister · 05-01-2008, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ100

Anyone interested in a CZ 27, I have one for sale, fnh slide legend, pistol, two mags, one mag has spring missing but follower is there, original holster. Small crack on bottom of left grip nest to mag release. Asking $450.00 plus ship/ins. to FFL. Pics on request. aj100x101@hotmail.com
Thanks AJ

No offense to you at all, but the owner does not want any advertising of firearms or firearms accessories on the site for and due to the liability reasons and or issues that can come about from doing it.

Personally, I wish it did have one, but I can totally understand his reasons. Also kind of glad it doesn't. I mean we both know there are those that rip [people off. Not having a for sale section to me keeps it friendly without the problems of someone ripping someone off.

Not that anyone would rip someone off, but it does happen and I'd hate to see it happen and the site get a bad name because of it.

If you really want to sell it, GunBroker.com Online Gun Auction or anyone of the other sites out there...

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJ100

OK, I have posted a lot of pics on other sites, but on this one all I get is the dreaded red X.

I use my photobucket account and copy the "direct image" line below the pic. When I come back to whatever site I am on all I do is click on their image icon and insert my pic by clicking on "paste". For instance, on the CMP site, when you click on their image icon, [ ]image[] appears. Right click between the boxes, hit paste and bingo the pic is inserted.

On this site, when I get their "insert URL here" window I paste the address from my photobucket account and the address shows up OK, but still no pic. Help?

Thanks, AJ

To post pictures, you go to advanced, then scroll down a little and look for "manage attachments". Click on that and then browse your computer and or insert the URL. Click upload, when it's done close the box that opened when you clicked on manage attachments and then continue as normal...

AJ100 · 05-01-2008, 06:03 PM

Thank you Glockmeister. I have it on my Gunsamerica account. I really don't know how anyone that owns a site could be held accountable if a deal went bad. That would be like blaming the owner because you got some bad info about a rifle or pistol.

"Hey, so and so told me on this site that the Nagant pistol I was looking at was worth $1500.00, so I bought it. NOW I find out is only worth $75.00, I'm blaming the owner of the site because I got screwed."

The CMP site is FULL of sale items. I gotta figure there is a lawyer somewhere at the bottom of the decision NOT to allow adds on this site.

AJ

01-12-2005, 02:03 PM	#1
vonmeer Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8	WWII Nazi CZ27 WWII Nazi CZ27 (pistole Modell 27) This gun is is a high polish officers PM27, marked with nazi waffenmarks. BOHMISCHE WAFFENFABRIKA.G.IN PRAG Serial Number 46922 The Original Holster is dated 1941 and I have the original capture papers from WWII. Is this gun from 1941? or 39-40?

01-12-2005, 02:07 PM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	Oooooo! I don't know, but its very cool! Been wanting one of those...nice example! :right: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-12-2005, 02:10 PM	#3
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	CESKA ZBROJOVKA in Prague started manufacture of the Cz27 in 1927; by the time of the German Occupation in 1939 about 15,000 had been produced. Most of these went to the Czechoslovakian Police and civilian markets. The Czech Police retained their weapons during the German Occupation. Some of the first occupation pistols roduced bear the "CESKA" legend on top of the slide, and AKAH or GECO German commerical import logos. A few of the early occupation pistols bear German Army acceptance stamps and /or test proofs. The German name for the Ceska Zbrojovka factory was Bohmishe Waffenfabrik A.G. (Bohemian Weapons Factory, Inc) and the "BOHMISCHE" slide legend was adopted during 1941 shortly after occupation military production started. Variations are based on slide legend ("CESKA", "BOHMISCHE" and "fnh") and subvariations are based on finish (high-polish blue, military-blue and phosphate). Serial numbers range from about 20000 to over 475000 for a total production of 455000. About 9000 pistols with the fnh code (sn476000-485000 some with the E/WaA76 stamp) were produced after the war. A few pistols with the 'BOHMISHE" slide legend are without serial number and bear a Nazi eagle 4 and a U prefix number etched on the slide. These may have been pre-military production test pistols.--"AXIS PISTOLS" by Jan C. Still In 1945 and 46 the Czech Ministry of Defense ordered 45,000. The pistol was phased out in 1949 for the CZ50. Production had reached over 620,000 pistols. There are two rare variations and those are a .22 long rifle and a variant to use a sliencer.--"Know Your Czechoslovakian Pistols" by R.J. Berger __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-12-2005, 06:57 PM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,052 Images: 3	These guys might know: http://p201.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792 __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

01-15-2005, 08:10 AM	#5
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,877	wayy cool __________________ Submitted with respect to all

01-15-2005, 10:04 AM	#6
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	droool :right:

04-30-2008, 09:42 PM	#7
jla8864 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1	WWII Nazi Proofed CZ27 Good evening to all. Need your help. I have a CZ27 Pistol with holster, their stats are: Pistol - SN 143* all parts matching. BOHMISCHE WAFFENFABRIK A.G. IN PRAG WA(Eagle)76 Highly Polished in the White, again Highly Polished in the White. Mottled Brown, Tan & White Grips, with CZ crest in center of grips on each side. Holster - Black Marked from left to right - CZ in Circle WA(Eagle)76 1942 P. MOD. 27 What do I have if anything?** Thank you in advance. Jere 30 April 08

05-01-2008, 05:38 PM	#9
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 5,483	, That's a really, , nice looking piece of history, you have there. I'm sure not jealous of you at all. And I certainly wouldn't like to have something like that. not at all. Very very nice looking and excellent piece of history. Where's you find that and if I might ask, how $$$$ for it? __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

05-01-2008, 06:03 PM	#11
AJ100 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10	Thank you Glockmeister. I have it on my Gunsamerica account. I really don't know how anyone that owns a site could be held accountable if a deal went bad. That would be like blaming the owner because you got some bad info about a rifle or pistol. "Hey, so and so told me on this site that the Nagant pistol I was looking at was worth $1500.00, so I bought it. NOW I find out is only worth $75.00, I'm blaming the owner of the site because I got screwed." The CMP site is FULL of sale items. I gotta figure there is a lawyer somewhere at the bottom of the decision NOT to allow adds on this site. AJ Last edited by AJ100; 05-01-2008 at 06:17 PM.