Looking At An AR10

ar10 · 06-03-2009, 02:13 PM

I have a friend that has a gun shop, and in stopping in to see him the other day to say hello, I see he has a ar-15 on steroids. It is a DPMS AR-10 with a stainless very heavy barrel. This gun is massive compared to my two AR-15's. It has been two days and I cannot stop thinking about it.

I just called and told them I would take it.

It does not have a collapsible stock, which I would prefer.

Can someone recommend a very high tech collapsible stock and the place to get 25 round mags?

Thanks!

First post and hope to be a frequent poster.

I own a photo board like this one.

cremley · 06-03-2009, 03:05 PM

Welcome to Gun and Game!

I am sure some other members can suggest a good collapsible stock but I would think you would want it fixed as an AR-10 is in .308 and is kinda a big gun and not really a small "tactical" gun. But, it is your rifle and I believe "to each his own".

GlockMeister · 06-03-2009, 03:09 PM

First off, Hello and welcome to G&G ar10.

Secondly, congrats on the AR10. As for where to get a collapsible stock and 25rd. mag, you should just be able to do a search or, the guy your buying it from should be able to get you both as well.

But you can check any of the tactical websites on the net. I'd list and or link you a few but I'm on the laptop and all my links are saved on the desktop PC.

Just google both items. Try using the words below and you should get plenty of places?

"collapsible stock for an AR10" and "25 round magazines for an AR10"...

ALR · 06-03-2009, 10:27 PM

HELLO AR10, I have a DPMS LR308B it came w/full stock. The thing is that to be sure of correct fit of a collapsible stock there is two sizes of buffer tubes, commercial and military. A slight dif in diameters so an AP4 collapsible stock may not fit A2 tube. To be sure I purchased a DPMS AP4 carbine stock assembly for the LR308. I dont know what model you have, but I just received DPMS catalog today in mail. Part no. is..... 308-CS-AP4....$99.95 US this includes buffer tube, lock ring, collapsible stock, buffer spring, and follower.
Only parts from an AR15 that will fit the 308 is the trigger group.
You can also look up a lot of things on the DPMS web sight, just google dpms.com. You can order from Midway USA as I dont think DPMS sells direct to public anymore because of backlog.
I plan to use mine for deer hunt and with thick coat on, sights are out there not to see easy. Collapse stock to shootable length and Wallah there she is.
I first saw ads for accessories for it in CTD cat and wondered about it and couldnt rest untill I found one to hold, when I did, I made three trips to hold it. Its a piece of artwork in machinery. Picked it up on third trip. The fannageling and story I had to tell my wife why I needed it is another story.
For Mags they only have 4, 10, and 19, rounders. In Missouri you can have a 11 round capacity so I got a 10 rounder. Some states only allow 5, so the 4 would work there. For good looks always chuck a 19 rounder in....LOL
Hope to hear from you about the model you have, DPMS also has a forum to ask questions to the tech staff also.
If you have the flattop a good scope is the Sniper Scope from another vendor that comes in single fixed powers 10, 20, and 30 I think for $300.00 US
These 308s are advertised to make clean kills on game out to 600 yds.
I guess unclean out to 1,000 yds...LOL.
Good Luck and be sure to follow the breaking in instructions.

ar10 · 06-07-2009, 07:08 AM

Feeling the need to upgrade firearms, I decided to just put about 600 dollars worth of accs that are for sale as my local Schields for my two AR's. I am ordering a new DPMS from Schields the way I want it. I like the look & option of the forward assist (not that I have ever used one) and collapsible shoulder stock, along with several other things. Maybe a two stage trigger.

You guys can help me spend my money by recommending things.

I want to be able to get out from 100 feet to 300 yards, so barrel recommendations would be helpful. I dearly love the heavy barrels, so I know I want one of those. The bigger the better.

ALR · 06-07-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR

HELLO AR10, I have a DPMS LR308B it came w/full stock. The thing is that to be sure of correct fit of a collapsible stock there is two sizes of buffer tubes, commercial and military. A slight dif in diameters so an AP4 collapsible stock may not fit A2 tube. To be sure I purchased a DPMS AP4 carbine stock assembly for the LR308. I dont know what model you have, but I just received DPMS catalog today in mail. Part no. is..... 308-CS-AP4....$99.95 US this includes buffer tube, lock ring, collapsible stock, buffer spring, and follower.
Only parts from an AR15 that will fit the 308 is the trigger group.
You can also look up a lot of things on the DPMS web sight, just google dpms.com. You can order from Midway USA as I dont think DPMS sells direct to public anymore because of backlog.
I plan to use mine for deer hunt and with thick coat on, sights are out there not to see easy. Collapse stock to shootable length and Wallah there she is.
I first saw ads for accessories for it in CTD cat and wondered about it and couldnt rest untill I found one to hold, when I did, I made three trips to hold it. Its a piece of artwork in machinery. Picked it up on third trip. The fannageling and story I had to tell my wife why I needed it is another story.
For Mags they only have 4, 10, and 19, rounders. In Missouri you can have a 11 round capacity so I got a 10 rounder. Some states only allow 5, so the 4 would work there. For good looks always chuck a 19 rounder in....LOL
Hope to hear from you about the model you have, DPMS also has a forum to ask questions to the tech staff also.
If you have the flattop a good scope is the Super Sniper Scope from another vendor that comes in single fixed powers 10, 16, and 20 I think for $300.00 US
These 308s are advertised to make clean kills on game out to 600 yds.
I guess unclean out to 1,000 yds...LOL.
Good Luck and be sure to follow the breaking in instructions.

Corrected scope name and fixed power offerings.........
No answer as to where you live?
What is magazine limits?

Archetype_wyo · 06-07-2009, 05:37 PM

Tapco makes some good AR gear. Might check Cheaper Than Dirt - America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter they carry alot of the Tapco stuff.

ar10 · 06-09-2009, 08:23 PM

The dealer came over and picked out a model 94 Winchester made in 1919 as a trade. I get the scope and a thousand rounds of good .308 ammo, and he gets a gun I have had sense 1998. I have two hundred dollars in that gun, so I guess my purchase way back then was a good investment.

Schields says they could not order in a gun with a collapsible stock. What? O well.

So I still need to mod my new gun a bit. Pick it up tomorrow if my background check goes OK. Never done that before. I used to be a gun dealer.

Live in Nebraska.

eagle4g63 · 06-09-2009, 08:37 PM

Ar10 when shopping for your collapsible stock you MUST get a MILSPEC that is the only way you can get a buffer and tube for one all the others(for ar-15) will fit but... you won't be able to cycle a round the buffer doesn't go back far enough for the 308 round. trust me I made this mistake and now with the short supply I am forced to look at my new buffer tube(took 3 months to get it) and no stock. I have the Armelite version and it is basically the same for the DPMS

The point in a colapsible stock on the ar-10 isn't for making it compact like an ar-15 it is for the length of pull adjustability for comfort.

eagle4g63 · 06-09-2009, 08:38 PM

Oh yeah check gunbroker out for the 25 round mag, they are becoming popular so more places are making them now I believe one is Magpull

ar10 · 06-10-2009, 02:28 AM

thanks guys~

I am 6'7" tall and the extend able but-stock is much better for my long arms and body

ArkansasHunter · 06-10-2009, 02:39 AM

Do me a favor ar10. Before you replace the stock Please read up on how to do it LOL.
My son has a colaspable stock on his Bushmaster AR-15. M-4 version. He wanted to ad a 1 point hitch for a sling.
It looked simple to do. Just unscrew the tube and slide on the hitch and screw it back on LOL.

If you only knew the hell we went through trien. When he had it all together he went outside and shot 3 rounds through it and the gun fell completely apart.

The tube shot of and some small parts were lost in the yard, had a gun smith fix it and it did it again.

Ended up sending it off and now it's fixed SO know what your doing when you replace the stock...A.H

ar10 · 06-10-2009, 06:30 PM

You have several small pieces including springs that want to go flying when you replace this. I just looked for a spring from an AR-15 yesterday.

Thanks.

ALR · 06-10-2009, 06:48 PM

A collapsible stock will only shorten weapon not lengthen it.
You dont sound like you listen to experience or reason.
Hope you dont hurt yourself too bad.
Good luck.

ar10 · 06-10-2009, 06:53 PM

First of all, may I call you DA? Thanks.

DA, it depends what stock you purchase as to if it will be longer in the extended position. If you purchase one that extends to a shorter position only, then yes indeed, it would be shorter.

What gives you the right to start flaming people here? You think in 300 posts you own the place?

Please never reply to any of my posts again as I have taken a rather prominent dislike to you already. I have added you to my ignore list, so I will not be bothered with your attacks again.

ALR · 06-10-2009, 07:02 PM

1. No
2. Not flaming.
3. You dont answer a direct question or acknowledge input when you ask questions and get answers.
4.Yadda yadda yadda.

ar10 · 06-10-2009, 07:07 PM

I like the ignore list. Works perfect! If I get on your nerves as much as you did mine you should try it! lol

lol again.

I am a retired gun dealer. My best friend is a retired police chief. I am a respected businessman in a community of a quarter million people, in business 30 years. Is it possible I could hurt myself? That is always a possibility, but not rather likely as I am careful with my hands and careful with my words.

As for everyone else that has tried to help me with advise, thanks! Picked up the gun today. Wonderful piece of craftsmanship and engineering. Quite a handful in size and weight compared to the AR-15s.

I am finding mags are rather difficul to come by.

ALR · 06-10-2009, 08:26 PM

You resort to name calling then call me a flamer? LOL
Good luck in your quest for parts.
I have mags, lots of mags.
PS Made you look! LOL

ar10 · 06-14-2009, 04:04 AM

What do you guys think of Magpul UBR?

YouTube - MAGPUL UBR Stock, Install

DPMS · 06-16-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eagle4g63

Ar10 when shopping for your collapsible stock you MUST get a MILSPEC that is the only way you can get a buffer and tube for one all the others(for ar-15) will fit but... you won't be able to cycle a round the buffer doesn't go back far enough for the 308 round. trust me I made this mistake and now with the short supply I am forced to look at my new buffer tube(took 3 months to get it) and no stock. I have the Armelite version and it is basically the same for the DPMS...

This is not entirely true. DPMS uses a commercial diameter AR15 carbine stock tube on all of our LR-308s (when a carbine stock is present) by default. The mil-spec tube will also function correctly on an LR-308. Only the buffer and spring differ between the two platforms. If you do not have a carbine 308 buffer and spring, you will have problems. You can use whatever AR15 stock you like.

06-03-2009, 02:13 PM	#1
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	Looking At An AR10 I have a friend that has a gun shop, and in stopping in to see him the other day to say hello, I see he has a ar-15 on steroids. It is a DPMS AR-10 with a stainless very heavy barrel. This gun is massive compared to my two AR-15's. It has been two days and I cannot stop thinking about it. I just called and told them I would take it. It does not have a collapsible stock, which I would prefer. Can someone recommend a very high tech collapsible stock and the place to get 25 round mags? Thanks! First post and hope to be a frequent poster. I own a photo board like this one.

06-03-2009, 03:05 PM	#2
cremley Young Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Southern New Mexico Posts: 2,655	Welcome to Gun and Game! I am sure some other members can suggest a good collapsible stock but I would think you would want it fixed as an AR-10 is in .308 and is kinda a big gun and not really a small "tactical" gun. But, it is your rifle and I believe "to each his own". __________________ I wouldn't be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get me. NRA MEMBER

06-03-2009, 03:09 PM	#3
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	First off, Hello and welcome to G&G ar10. Secondly, congrats on the AR10. As for where to get a collapsible stock and 25rd. mag, you should just be able to do a search or, the guy your buying it from should be able to get you both as well. But you can check any of the tactical websites on the net. I'd list and or link you a few but I'm on the laptop and all my links are saved on the desktop PC. Just google both items. Try using the words below and you should get plenty of places? "collapsible stock for an AR10" and "25 round magazines for an AR10"... __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

06-03-2009, 10:27 PM	#4
ALR STAIN'ALIVE,STAIN'ALIVE! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 901	HELLO AR10, I have a DPMS LR308B it came w/full stock. The thing is that to be sure of correct fit of a collapsible stock there is two sizes of buffer tubes, commercial and military. A slight dif in diameters so an AP4 collapsible stock may not fit A2 tube. To be sure I purchased a DPMS AP4 carbine stock assembly for the LR308. I dont know what model you have, but I just received DPMS catalog today in mail. Part no. is..... 308-CS-AP4....$99.95 US this includes buffer tube, lock ring, collapsible stock, buffer spring, and follower. Only parts from an AR15 that will fit the 308 is the trigger group. You can also look up a lot of things on the DPMS web sight, just google dpms.com. You can order from Midway USA as I dont think DPMS sells direct to public anymore because of backlog. I plan to use mine for deer hunt and with thick coat on, sights are out there not to see easy. Collapse stock to shootable length and Wallah there she is. I first saw ads for accessories for it in CTD cat and wondered about it and couldnt rest untill I found one to hold, when I did, I made three trips to hold it. Its a piece of artwork in machinery. Picked it up on third trip. The fannageling and story I had to tell my wife why I needed it is another story. For Mags they only have 4, 10, and 19, rounders. In Missouri you can have a 11 round capacity so I got a 10 rounder. Some states only allow 5, so the 4 would work there. For good looks always chuck a 19 rounder in....LOL Hope to hear from you about the model you have, DPMS also has a forum to ask questions to the tech staff also. If you have the flattop a good scope is the Sniper Scope from another vendor that comes in single fixed powers 10, 20, and 30 I think for $300.00 US These 308s are advertised to make clean kills on game out to 600 yds. I guess unclean out to 1,000 yds...LOL. Good Luck and be sure to follow the breaking in instructions. __________________ AGENT ORANGE The last ghost of Vietnam ATF- Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, where are the chips?

06-07-2009, 05:37 PM	#7
Archetype_wyo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buffalo, Wyo Posts: 1,731	Tapco makes some good AR gear. Might check Cheaper Than Dirt - America's Ultimate Shooting Sports Discounter they carry alot of the Tapco stuff. __________________ The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun. —Patrick Henry

06-07-2009, 07:08 AM	#5
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	Feeling the need to upgrade firearms, I decided to just put about 600 dollars worth of accs that are for sale as my local Schields for my two AR's. I am ordering a new DPMS from Schields the way I want it. I like the look & option of the forward assist (not that I have ever used one) and collapsible shoulder stock, along with several other things. Maybe a two stage trigger. You guys can help me spend my money by recommending things. I want to be able to get out from 100 feet to 300 yards, so barrel recommendations would be helpful. I dearly love the heavy barrels, so I know I want one of those. The bigger the better.

06-09-2009, 08:23 PM	#8
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	The dealer came over and picked out a model 94 Winchester made in 1919 as a trade. I get the scope and a thousand rounds of good .308 ammo, and he gets a gun I have had sense 1998. I have two hundred dollars in that gun, so I guess my purchase way back then was a good investment. Schields says they could not order in a gun with a collapsible stock. What? O well. So I still need to mod my new gun a bit. Pick it up tomorrow if my background check goes OK. Never done that before. I used to be a gun dealer. Live in Nebraska. Last edited by ar10; 06-09-2009 at 08:25 PM.

06-09-2009, 08:37 PM	#9
eagle4g63 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: indiana Posts: 152	Ar10 when shopping for your collapsible stock you MUST get a MILSPEC that is the only way you can get a buffer and tube for one all the others(for ar-15) will fit but... you won't be able to cycle a round the buffer doesn't go back far enough for the 308 round. trust me I made this mistake and now with the short supply I am forced to look at my new buffer tube(took 3 months to get it) and no stock. I have the Armelite version and it is basically the same for the DPMS The point in a colapsible stock on the ar-10 isn't for making it compact like an ar-15 it is for the length of pull adjustability for comfort. __________________ Gun control is putting 2 bullets in the same hole.

06-09-2009, 08:38 PM	#10
eagle4g63 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: indiana Posts: 152	Oh yeah check gunbroker out for the 25 round mag, they are becoming popular so more places are making them now I believe one is Magpull __________________ Gun control is putting 2 bullets in the same hole.

06-10-2009, 02:28 AM	#11
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	thanks guys~ I am 6'7" tall and the extend able but-stock is much better for my long arms and body

06-10-2009, 02:39 AM	#12
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,211	Do me a favor ar10. Before you replace the stock Please read up on how to do it LOL. My son has a colaspable stock on his Bushmaster AR-15. M-4 version. He wanted to ad a 1 point hitch for a sling. It looked simple to do. Just unscrew the tube and slide on the hitch and screw it back on LOL. If you only knew the hell we went through trien. When he had it all together he went outside and shot 3 rounds through it and the gun fell completely apart. The tube shot of and some small parts were lost in the yard, had a gun smith fix it and it did it again. Ended up sending it off and now it's fixed SO know what your doing when you replace the stock...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

06-10-2009, 06:30 PM	#13
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	You have several small pieces including springs that want to go flying when you replace this. I just looked for a spring from an AR-15 yesterday. Thanks.

06-10-2009, 06:48 PM	#14
ALR STAIN'ALIVE,STAIN'ALIVE! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 901	A collapsible stock will only shorten weapon not lengthen it. You dont sound like you listen to experience or reason. Hope you dont hurt yourself too bad. Good luck. __________________ AGENT ORANGE The last ghost of Vietnam ATF- Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, where are the chips?

06-10-2009, 06:53 PM	#15
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	First of all, may I call you DA? Thanks. DA, it depends what stock you purchase as to if it will be longer in the extended position. If you purchase one that extends to a shorter position only, then yes indeed, it would be shorter. What gives you the right to start flaming people here? You think in 300 posts you own the place? Please never reply to any of my posts again as I have taken a rather prominent dislike to you already. I have added you to my ignore list, so I will not be bothered with your attacks again. __________________ Lifetime Member NRA. Lifetime Member GWTA. Member Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Last edited by ar10; 06-10-2009 at 06:56 PM.

06-10-2009, 07:02 PM	#16
ALR STAIN'ALIVE,STAIN'ALIVE! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 901	1. No 2. Not flaming. 3. You dont answer a direct question or acknowledge input when you ask questions and get answers. 4.Yadda yadda yadda. __________________ AGENT ORANGE The last ghost of Vietnam ATF- Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, where are the chips?

06-10-2009, 07:07 PM	#17
ar10 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 64	I like the ignore list. Works perfect! If I get on your nerves as much as you did mine you should try it! lol lol again. I am a retired gun dealer. My best friend is a retired police chief. I am a respected businessman in a community of a quarter million people, in business 30 years. Is it possible I could hurt myself? That is always a possibility, but not rather likely as I am careful with my hands and careful with my words. As for everyone else that has tried to help me with advise, thanks! Picked up the gun today. Wonderful piece of craftsmanship and engineering. Quite a handful in size and weight compared to the AR-15s. I am finding mags are rather difficul to come by. __________________ Lifetime Member NRA. Lifetime Member GWTA. Member Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. Last edited by ar10; 06-10-2009 at 07:10 PM.

06-10-2009, 08:26 PM	#18
ALR STAIN'ALIVE,STAIN'ALIVE! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: St Charles MO Posts: 901	You resort to name calling then call me a flamer? LOL Good luck in your quest for parts. I have mags, lots of mags. PS Made you look! LOL __________________ AGENT ORANGE The last ghost of Vietnam ATF- Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, where are the chips?