Old Lithgow Enfeild

Mick · 06-05-2005, 03:53 PM

I have just recieved an old lithgow Lee Enfeild from a mate of mine to restore as a ornamental type thing, it was his grandfathers and he wants it to be made inoperable so he can hang it on the wall.

first question is, how do you get the fore stocks off?

PAPA G · 06-05-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick

I have just recieved an old lithgow Lee Enfeild from a mate of mine to restore as a ornamental type thing, it was his grandfathers and he wants it to be made inoperable so he can hang it on the wall.

first question is, how do you get the fore stocks off?

nah, first question is why does the guy want to deactivate a fine rifle!!!

remove the nose cap, remove the handguard band, under neath forestock look for hole containing screw remove that. it should slide off then.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, why don't the bloke just make it into a lamp, he don't sound to bright to me.

rebel727 · 06-05-2005, 07:20 PM

Why does it have to be inoperable to hang on a wall. Bet his grandfather is turning over in his grave. He should give it to somebody that appreciates it.

Mick · 06-05-2005, 09:44 PM

Well, he doesn't have a gun licence, and it it illegal to display an operating firarm in Australia, the gun is far from servicable at the moment, I havn't looked doen the barrel yet, got to clean out the hornets nests and crud first, the only part on it that is still alright is the bolt and trigger assembly. if someone did stick a bullet up it they'd probably kill themselves.
I offered to make it safe for him, he has a 5 year old boy and the gun was just sitting in the hall cupboard.

Mick · 06-10-2005, 04:46 AM

I have started to pull the old girl down, I am trying to work out the age and model of the rifle, it has a sheild stamped into the band behind the trigger, with LITHGOW SHT.LE and what looks like 2 in roman numerals, underneath that there is 1918 stamped as well ( I figure this is the year of manufacture)
Also on the front of the breech is MD then 8 5 4 7 then 95774.
Then on the barrel is MA VI then 1 44.

Any information would be great, I'm thinking about buying the rifle of the fella who owns it, even if the barrels no good, I think it'd be better in my gun safe than his.

Johnny_Revolver · 06-10-2005, 04:50 AM

Mick, check this out, might help some. http://www.skennerton.com/sais.html

Mick · 06-10-2005, 04:55 AM

Hey Johnny, You live not far from me. That link is just selling stuff I think, I'll have a look at the Australian War Memorial website.

Johnny_Revolver · 06-10-2005, 05:22 AM

He does sell stuff ( about three oh`s ) and other miltary stuff. When I get my SMLE i reckon I`ll buy a book off him.

Mick · 06-10-2005, 05:29 AM

I had a look at the AWM, it looks like its a No1 mkIII made in 1918, I guess that's my question answered.

Big Dog · 06-10-2005, 07:08 AM

Mick, have you checked over on the Gunboards.com site? They have two Enfield forums, moderated by a guy called Vulch. He's an Aussie too, and very knowledgable on the Aussie Enfields.
I'm betting he can answer all your questions.

hounddawg · 06-26-2005, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rebel727

Why does it have to be inoperable to hang on a wall. Bet his grandfather is turning over in his grave. He should give it to somebody that appreciates it.

In my own experience it is safer when the weapon is no longer safe to fire. I have seen a few of granddaddy's shotguns after they had hung on the wall for a few years, and junior wants to see if it still works by firing modern shells from it.

Mick · 06-26-2005, 03:48 PM

Yeah for sure, also I have cleaned out the barrel, Oh my god!!! What a mess, I think the best thing for this old girl is some molten lead in the chamber.

hounddawg · 06-26-2005, 09:23 PM

Be pretty easy to just take the bolt apart, remove (or cut) the firing pin, and re-assemble the bolt.

Mick · 06-27-2005, 01:45 AM

Yeah thought of that, it's also easy to replace said firing pin, for it to be legal it has to be permanantly inoperative, the recomended way is to weld the bolt into the breech, but I want the action to still move, so the lead in the chamber is the best bet I think, I supose you could say that it could be removed also, but it would be very dificult.

timberlord · 06-27-2005, 08:04 AM

Get another old bolt and trigger assembly , bugger them up and install them into the rifle .The magazine can be replaced with a screwed up mag ....take out the ramp and spring . The rifle cannot fire and also you've kept the original , historic value .
Put the original 's in a safe place elsewhere .

06-05-2005, 03:53 PM	#1
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Old Lithgow Enfeild I have just recieved an old lithgow Lee Enfeild from a mate of mine to restore as a ornamental type thing, it was his grandfathers and he wants it to be made inoperable so he can hang it on the wall. first question is, how do you get the fore stocks off? __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-05-2005, 07:20 PM	#3
rebel727 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Heidelberg, Mississippi Posts: 1,512 Trader Rating: (0)	Why does it have to be inoperable to hang on a wall. Bet his grandfather is turning over in his grave. He should give it to somebody that appreciates it. __________________ North-1 South-0 HALFTIME!

06-05-2005, 09:44 PM	#4
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, he doesn't have a gun licence, and it it illegal to display an operating firarm in Australia, the gun is far from servicable at the moment, I havn't looked doen the barrel yet, got to clean out the hornets nests and crud first, the only part on it that is still alright is the bolt and trigger assembly. if someone did stick a bullet up it they'd probably kill themselves. I offered to make it safe for him, he has a 5 year old boy and the gun was just sitting in the hall cupboard. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-10-2005, 04:46 AM	#5
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	I have started to pull the old girl down, I am trying to work out the age and model of the rifle, it has a sheild stamped into the band behind the trigger, with LITHGOW SHT.LE and what looks like 2 in roman numerals, underneath that there is 1918 stamped as well ( I figure this is the year of manufacture) Also on the front of the breech is MD then 8 5 4 7 then 95774. Then on the barrel is MA VI then 1 44. Any information would be great, I'm thinking about buying the rifle of the fella who owns it, even if the barrels no good, I think it'd be better in my gun safe than his. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-10-2005, 04:55 AM	#7
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Hey Johnny, You live not far from me. That link is just selling stuff I think, I'll have a look at the Australian War Memorial website. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand) Last edited by Mick; 06-10-2005 at 04:59 AM.

06-10-2005, 04:50 AM	#6
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,200 Trader Rating: (0)	Mick, check this out, might help some. http://www.skennerton.com/sais.html

06-10-2005, 05:22 AM	#8
Johnny_Revolver Gun Liker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,200 Trader Rating: (0)	He does sell stuff ( about three oh`s ) and other miltary stuff. When I get my SMLE i reckon I`ll buy a book off him.

06-10-2005, 05:29 AM	#9
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	I had a look at the AWM, it looks like its a No1 mkIII made in 1918, I guess that's my question answered. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-10-2005, 07:08 AM	#10
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	Mick, have you checked over on the Gunboards.com site? They have two Enfield forums, moderated by a guy called Vulch. He's an Aussie too, and very knowledgable on the Aussie Enfields. I'm betting he can answer all your questions. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

06-26-2005, 03:48 PM	#12
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah for sure, also I have cleaned out the barrel, Oh my god!!! What a mess, I think the best thing for this old girl is some molten lead in the chamber. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-26-2005, 09:23 PM	#13
hounddawg Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South of Nasty-vile, Tennessee Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	Be pretty easy to just take the bolt apart, remove (or cut) the firing pin, and re-assemble the bolt. __________________ http://images.animationfactory.com/a...ing_md_clr.gif If the people be of sound mind, laws are unneccesary. If the people be not of sound mind, laws are useless. --Plato

06-27-2005, 01:45 AM	#14
Mick Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Emerald CQLD AUST Posts: 977 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah thought of that, it's also easy to replace said firing pin, for it to be legal it has to be permanantly inoperative, the recomended way is to weld the bolt into the breech, but I want the action to still move, so the lead in the chamber is the best bet I think, I supose you could say that it could be removed also, but it would be very dificult. __________________ OzHunter Give me a six-pack and a red dirt open road (Adam Brand)

06-27-2005, 08:04 AM	#15
timberlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0)	Get another old bolt and trigger assembly , bugger them up and install them into the rifle .The magazine can be replaced with a screwed up mag ....take out the ramp and spring . The rifle cannot fire and also you've kept the original , historic value . Put the original 's in a safe place elsewhere . __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LongStamp1.jpg Last edited by timberlord; 06-27-2005 at 08:12 AM.