Gun Show Report- Kingston, NY

littlejoe872 · 12-08-2007, 05:40 PM

I went to the gunshow today up near Kingston, NY. It was a small show, and nothing there was calling to me to bring it home. I did see two "U.S. Property" Savage No. 4 Mk I* Enfields there, that really broke my heart. They were both sporterized. One of them had the cams for the bayonet ground off. The guy wanted $175.00 for that one. The other one was going for $125.00. I was seriously considering taking that one, because only the stock was cut. It was missing the front sight, and sight protector, but I figured that could be replaced. The front sight base was still there, just no sight. Wierd... Neither were tapped, and had the original flip up sights. The one going for 125 had some pitting on the barrel that would've been covered by the front hand guard. The finish wasn't too bad on both of them. Regardless.... I walked away from both of them, because I don't really have the time, or cash to start another project. The one vendor that was selling the second Enfield had several milsurp rifles there. A Carcano, a Mosin, an Arisaka.... All sporterized. I couldn't believe it. I very rarely see Arisakas at gunshows around here, and here's one that's been bubba'd. I thought that 7.7 mm Jap ammo was pretty scarce too. There was a guy there who was selling Japanese military swords there. I wish I knew more about them, because I was tempted to get a NCO sword that he had there. Again.... walked away due to lack of knowledge. I'll have to start doing my homework on them, if I'm going to get into that.

Mooseman684 · 12-08-2007, 08:09 PM

bummer Joe....

Rich

ouch · 12-08-2007, 08:32 PM

I have been known to purchase sporterized military weapons. I would not have done that to the weapon but still the heart is still there.
good pickup on the enfields. get one tomorrow. I have a swiss rifle sporterized. It still does a minute of arc shot even though it doesnt look like a sr.
I feel like I am caring for the long lost military weapons.
Swords. My wife loves swords and Bayonets. She is one easy person to buy for chrismas. Would you rather have swords or rifles for xmas.... answer both.

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Originally Posted by littlejoe872

I went to the gunshow today up near Kingston, NY. It was a small show, and nothing there was calling to me to bring it home. I did see two "U.S. Property" Savage No. 4 Mk I* Enfields there, that really broke my heart. They were both sporterized. One of them had the cams for the bayonet ground off. The guy wanted $175.00 for that one. The other one was going for $125.00. I was seriously considering taking that one, because only the stock was cut. It was missing the front sight, and sight protector, but I figured that could be replaced. The front sight base was still there, just no sight. Wierd... Neither were tapped, and had the original flip up sights. The one going for 125 had some pitting on the barrel that would've been covered by the front hand guard. The finish wasn't too bad on both of them. Regardless.... I walked away from both of them, because I don't really have the time, or cash to start another project. The one vendor that was selling the second Enfield had several milsurp rifles there. A Carcano, a Mosin, an Arisaka.... All sporterized. I couldn't believe it. I very rarely see Arisakas at gunshows around here, and here's one that's been bubba'd. I thought that 7.7 mm Jap ammo was pretty scarce too. There was a guy there who was selling Japanese military swords there. I wish I knew more about them, because I was tempted to get a NCO sword that he had there. Again.... walked away due to lack of knowledge. I'll have to start doing my homework on them, if I'm going to get into that.

timberlord · 12-09-2007, 04:17 PM

The last gunshow I went to had quite an array of Enfields , including a '43 Savage "said" to be unissued. I didn't want to pick it up because it was litteraly dripping in cosmo-$500cdn. Also a No4T going for $4000 and a near mint Ross.
I ended up buying 250 rnds of various .303brit , mostly '42-'43 Canadian ( Dominion ) and '41-'42 Winchester (still in original boxes of 20) and a really nice Garand bayo.

Bubba'd No4's have seem to hit an all time high in price ( $150+) but I know there's closet guns out there for a third of that...just gotta hunt them out.

1GarandEnfield · 12-09-2007, 06:36 PM

hi, I've been coming to this forum for a few weeks. I'm interested in getting a enfield sometime soon just havent figured out which one...lol. anyway I was at a gunshow here in dayton today and ran across some enfield 2a made in ishpore. was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about these rifles? they looked good except kind of crude...they looked painted black?! whats up with this.

M1D-Garand · 12-10-2007, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1GarandEnfield

hi, I've been coming to this forum for a few weeks. I'm interested in getting a enfield sometime soon just havent figured out which one...lol. anyway I was at a gunshow here in dayton today and ran across some enfield 2a made in ishpore. was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about these rifles? they looked good except kind of crude...they looked painted black?! whats up with this.

Use the search button and you'll end up with a lot of info on these "Ishy's"

Rob

doctor rizz · 12-10-2007, 08:53 AM

Ishy rifles are excellent. i got a 1963 ishy on .303 brit. that I shoot all the time. I have no idea why they look like that because mine looks like it has been blown up. But i got it for 210 and i use it as a shooter.

timberlord · 12-10-2007, 03:19 PM

I have 2 Ishy's , both are great shooters and in fantastic condition.
Maybe I just lucked out on these.

'45 GRI Mklll* - FTR'd by BSA in '53

'68 RFI 2A1 -7.62nato

TheJoker · 12-10-2007, 08:23 PM

Those are beautiful, timberlord. I'll get pictures of my new Savage Model 4 Mk I* up soon.

12-08-2007, 05:40 PM	#1
littlejoe872 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rockland County, NY Posts: 343 Trader Rating: (0)	Gun Show Report- Kingston, NY I went to the gunshow today up near Kingston, NY. It was a small show, and nothing there was calling to me to bring it home. I did see two "U.S. Property" Savage No. 4 Mk I* Enfields there, that really broke my heart. They were both sporterized. One of them had the cams for the bayonet ground off. The guy wanted $175.00 for that one. The other one was going for $125.00. I was seriously considering taking that one, because only the stock was cut. It was missing the front sight, and sight protector, but I figured that could be replaced. The front sight base was still there, just no sight. Wierd... Neither were tapped, and had the original flip up sights. The one going for 125 had some pitting on the barrel that would've been covered by the front hand guard. The finish wasn't too bad on both of them. Regardless.... I walked away from both of them, because I don't really have the time, or cash to start another project. The one vendor that was selling the second Enfield had several milsurp rifles there. A Carcano, a Mosin, an Arisaka.... All sporterized. I couldn't believe it. I very rarely see Arisakas at gunshows around here, and here's one that's been bubba'd. I thought that 7.7 mm Jap ammo was pretty scarce too. There was a guy there who was selling Japanese military swords there. I wish I knew more about them, because I was tempted to get a NCO sword that he had there. Again.... walked away due to lack of knowledge. I'll have to start doing my homework on them, if I'm going to get into that. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

12-08-2007, 08:09 PM	#2
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,266 Trader Rating: (0)	bummer Joe.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-09-2007, 04:17 PM	#4
timberlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0)	The last gunshow I went to had quite an array of Enfields , including a '43 Savage "said" to be unissued. I didn't want to pick it up because it was litteraly dripping in cosmo-$500cdn. Also a No4T going for $4000 and a near mint Ross. I ended up buying 250 rnds of various .303brit , mostly '42-'43 Canadian ( Dominion ) and '41-'42 Winchester (still in original boxes of 20) and a really nice Garand bayo. Bubba'd No4's have seem to hit an all time high in price ( $150+) but I know there's closet guns out there for a third of that...just gotta hunt them out. __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LongStamp1.jpg

12-10-2007, 03:19 PM	#8
timberlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 291 Trader Rating: (0)	I have 2 Ishy's , both are great shooters and in fantastic condition. Maybe I just lucked out on these. '45 GRI Mklll* - FTR'd by BSA in '53 '68 RFI 2A1 -7.62nato __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LongStamp1.jpg

12-10-2007, 08:23 PM	#9
TheJoker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 230 Trader Rating: (0)	Those are beautiful, timberlord. I'll get pictures of my new Savage Model 4 Mk I* up soon. __________________ "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss." :joker:

12-09-2007, 06:36 PM	#5
1GarandEnfield Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 16 Trader Rating: (0)	hi, I've been coming to this forum for a few weeks. I'm interested in getting a enfield sometime soon just havent figured out which one...lol. anyway I was at a gunshow here in dayton today and ran across some enfield 2a made in ishpore. was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about these rifles? they looked good except kind of crude...they looked painted black?! whats up with this.

12-10-2007, 08:53 AM	#7
doctor rizz Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (0)	Ishy rifles are excellent. i got a 1963 ishy on .303 brit. that I shoot all the time. I have no idea why they look like that because mine looks like it has been blown up. But i got it for 210 and i use it as a shooter.