No. 5 Jungle Carbine

littlejoe872 · 01-20-2008, 02:29 PM

Went to a gunshow today, spur of the moment, and came across a No. 5 Jungle Carbine. I paid $315.00 for it. Here's a couple of shots of it. It was made at ROF Fazakerley, 11/44. Has the British export stamp on the barrel. There's some pitting on the barrel where the stock ends, but that shouldn't be an issue. Looking forward to getting it out to the range.

nathangdad · 01-20-2008, 02:36 PM

British wartime standards allowed for barrel diameters of up to .311 due to the need for quick, mass production. So, it is a good idea to have the barrel slugged. If you are not familiar with the concept a gunsmith can do this. Then you will have a proper set of diameter measurements in case you need to swage your own bullets.

rfc357 · 01-20-2008, 03:15 PM

The most common ".303" cartridges are the 7.35 Mauser, the .303 British, and the 7.7mm Japanese. Nominal bores in all of them are .311-.312. Bullets from .310 to .312 are appropriate for all. Bullets of .308 diameter usually give lousy accuracy.

The .303 Savage, if you are lucky enough to have a shootable example and a supply of brass, takes .308 bullets.

wunhunglo · 01-24-2008, 09:34 AM

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Looking forward to getting it out to the range.

use a slip on recoil pad, that baby kicks & smacks your teeth; I've got two of them.

thumperpaul · 01-25-2008, 08:51 PM

Nice rifle-looks like it's seen some serious usage! Be interesting to know its history....

texnmidwest · 02-20-2008, 06:24 PM

Very nice looking rifle indeed! I just bought one as part of a collector's lot. Looks just like yours. My stock may be a little rougher though. I plan to do some restoring to it. Little surface rust on the barrel but otherwise looks good. Bore looked good to me. It came with an Mosin m44 hungarian, and a yugo SKS in excellent condition. I think I have a couple things to keep me busy this winter and spring!

squirrelbaster · 02-20-2008, 07:16 PM

i very much want one of theses rifles, but have some questions, 1 is there anything that can be done about the famius wandering sights some of them have? and is there anything i sould look for when buying one, ive heard some stuff about "fakes". how do i tella good one from bad other than wear and tear?

texnmidwest · 02-21-2008, 06:23 AM

Anybody know the best place to find replacement parts, stocks, butt plates for these rifles? Looking to replace with original or repro parts but not sporter parts.

nathangdad · 02-21-2008, 07:29 AM

Have the bore swaged. That is, have a soft metal object pushed
through and precise measurements taken of the object to get your
true bore diameter. In the rush to wartime production the
English military allowed bore diameter to reach .311 before rejection.
This is a common test on .303 caliber weapons from the wartime and
post wartime period.

You may need to size your own lead bullets for optimal accuracy.

jerry · 02-21-2008, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by wunhunglo

use a slip on recoil pad, that baby kicks & smacks your teeth; I've got two of them.

+1 on that. thing kicks like a mule

01-20-2008, 02:36 PM	#2
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,483	Advise you slug the barrel British wartime standards allowed for barrel diameters of up to .311 due to the need for quick, mass production. So, it is a good idea to have the barrel slugged. If you are not familiar with the concept a gunsmith can do this. Then you will have a proper set of diameter measurements in case you need to swage your own bullets.

02-20-2008, 06:24 PM	#6
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,454	Very nice looking rifle indeed! I just bought one as part of a collector's lot. Looks just like yours. My stock may be a little rougher though. I plan to do some restoring to it. Little surface rust on the barrel but otherwise looks good. Bore looked good to me. It came with an Mosin m44 hungarian, and a yugo SKS in excellent condition. I think I have a couple things to keep me busy this winter and spring! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

02-21-2008, 06:23 AM	#8
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,454	Anybody know the best place to find replacement parts, stocks, butt plates for these rifles? Looking to replace with original or repro parts but not sporter parts. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

02-21-2008, 07:29 AM	#9
nathangdad Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 2,483	Have the bore swaged Have the bore swaged. That is, have a soft metal object pushed through and precise measurements taken of the object to get your true bore diameter. In the rush to wartime production the English military allowed bore diameter to reach .311 before rejection. This is a common test on .303 caliber weapons from the wartime and post wartime period. You may need to size your own lead bullets for optimal accuracy.

01-20-2008, 03:15 PM	#3
rfc357 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 741	The most common ".303" cartridges are the 7.35 Mauser, the .303 British, and the 7.7mm Japanese. Nominal bores in all of them are .311-.312. Bullets from .310 to .312 are appropriate for all. Bullets of .308 diameter usually give lousy accuracy. The .303 Savage, if you are lucky enough to have a shootable example and a supply of brass, takes .308 bullets.

01-25-2008, 08:51 PM	#5
thumperpaul Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: vancouver bc canada Posts: 174	Nice rifle-looks like it's seen some serious usage! Be interesting to know its history....

02-20-2008, 07:16 PM	#7
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,269	i very much want one of theses rifles, but have some questions, 1 is there anything that can be done about the famius wandering sights some of them have? and is there anything i sould look for when buying one, ive heard some stuff about "fakes". how do i tella good one from bad other than wear and tear?