jungle carbine

Bigdaveaz · 04-08-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

Thanks Timberlord! After work I am going to check my carbine for those cuts. All else checks out for it to be an original carbine. Just need to make sure those flutes are on the barrel shank. If they are there the "HOOTIE HOOT" you hear will be me! Like I said, I bought it for 90 Bucks!

Ain't that a coincidink, I bough my J C in San Jose about 30 yrs ago..... For $90.00 I can't Miss anything with it! Dave

cold queso · 04-08-2008, 01:49 PM

"Quote - NathangDad; If you will do a little more research, you will learn the WW2 rush for mass production created a maximum bore acceptance of .311 inches by the British Military which rendered many of the WW2 Enfields acceptable for use by rapidly trained soldiers but not for accuracy work."

The .303 Enfield was designed from the get-go with a .311 bore, requiring .311 bullets.

I've loaded the 303 for years and get excellent accuracy from No1, No4, and No5 rifles. The No4 Mk1 (T) sniper variant was a very successful and accurate weapon.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-08-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by irish murphy

Hardly a challenge mate.I shoot my 300wm all night no problems while spotlighting out of the truck window.

Your talking about shooting a large caliber cartrige from a large rifle. Im talking about shooting a large caliber cartrige from a small rifle. I own a Jungle carbine. Like I said it will give you a pounding on your shoulder when you try to shoot it a lot. I go to the range and shoot 200 to 300 rounds at a time. Cant do it with this No 5. And in spite of what was posted before the impact point steps from the left to the right on my Jungle carbine when it heats up. A cool little rifle. Hey if you can find one buy it. But I would rather shoot the M1 Carbine.

timberlord · 04-08-2008, 04:36 PM

There's going to be more felt recoil when the rifle gets lightened up and still using the same ammo.
Same said of many sported No1's and No4's.

IMHO ,
A good comparison would be with the Mosin 91/30 and the M44 , both 7.62x54r.
Also with the shorter barrel , the M44 is well known for it's fireball at the muzzle as unburnt powder is still igniting after leaving the barrel . Hense the No5 flashider...

irish murphy · 04-08-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

Your talking about shooting a large caliber cartrige from a large rifle. Im talking about shooting a large caliber cartrige from a small rifle. I own a Jungle carbine. Like I said it will give you a pounding on your shoulder when you try to shoot it a lot. I go to the range and shoot 200 to 300 rounds at a time. Cant do it with this No 5. And in spite of what was posted before the impact point steps from the left to the right on my Jungle carbine when it heats up. A cool little rifle. Hey if you can find one buy it. But I would rather shoot the M1 Carbine.

I own a JC and it has less felt recoil than my 300wm.I dont know what all the fuss is about.Must be a lot of soft shouldered blokes out there.

texnmidwest · 04-09-2008, 07:03 PM

OK, I finally got around to looking under the hard guard at the barrel shank. There are lightening flutes on it! I have a real JC!!!!

Now to find some ammo and see if the thing will shoot! I have a slip on butt pad so I don't think the recoil is going to be a big deal. I can't wait to shoot it.

squirrelblaster · 04-09-2008, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

OK, I finally got around to looking under the hard guard at the barrel shank. There are lightening flutes on it! I have a real JC!!!!

Now to find some ammo and see if the thing will shoot! I have a slip on butt pad so I don't think the recoil is going to be a big deal. I can't wait to shoot it.

congrats tex!!

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 07:30 AM

is $300 to much for a an efield it looks pritty good

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by irish murphy

I own a JC and it has less felt recoil than my 300wm.I dont know what all the fuss is about.Must be a lot of soft shouldered blokes out there.

aint that the truth i shoot an 8mm it doesnt bother me i have shot a 45/70 tht was alittle much but comme on grow up

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 07:47 AM

45/70

texnmidwest · 11-07-2008, 08:15 AM

I know of people who can shoot heavy recoiling rifles all day long and it doesn't bother them. I wish I could say that but I can't. I opine that it may have to do with muscle structure, upper body strength and just plain what one is used to. I will say that I CAN take more recoil that I could when I was younger, but that has more to do with soft butt pads and a good shooting vest. I ain't proud.

gandog56 · 11-07-2008, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ww2colector

is $300 to much for a an efield it looks pritty good

Depends on the Enfield.

wunhunglo · 11-07-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

Depends on the Enfield.

We pay double that for them in the UK and we had millions of them!

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 04:23 PM

thx guys much apreciated

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 04:34 PM

just to double check $300 aint tht bad

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

I know of people who can shoot heavy recoiling rifles all day long and it doesn't bother them. I wish I could say that but I can't. I opine that it may have to do with muscle structure, upper body strength and just plain what one is used to. I will say that I CAN take more recoil that I could when I was younger, but that has more to do with soft butt pads and a good shooting vest. I ain't proud.

all that is true but my 8mm has a meatal but plate is a k98

Kodiac400 · 11-07-2008, 06:17 PM

The #5 may kick like a mule........................but this video kicks harder. When I watched it for the first time I was in tears laughing.

YouTube - Rifle Shooting

ww2colector · 11-07-2008, 07:03 PM

nice tht gun looks pain full

jerry · 11-07-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

Here is one of the best places to see what to look for when buying a Jungle Carbine.
ENFIELD No.5 JUNGLE CARBINE
You have to remember the Jungle carbine had a lot of cuts on it to make it lighter. If your rifle has all these cuts your cooking with oil. If not you might want to pass on it. Remember this Rifle is basicly a cut down version of an Enfield. Unlike the M1 Carbine which was manufactured as a small gun. So this has a hell of a kick and the zero will wander as the barrel heats up.

True story from my experience

millwright39 · 11-07-2008, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ww2colector

all that is true but my 8mm has a meatal but plate is a k98

Yes well the No 5 have the hard rubber from 60-70 some odd years ago that are narrow than the butt plate that really pin point the hit

04-08-2008, 01:49 PM	#22
cold queso Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 196	303 misinformation "Quote - NathangDad; If you will do a little more research, you will learn the WW2 rush for mass production created a maximum bore acceptance of .311 inches by the British Military which rendered many of the WW2 Enfields acceptable for use by rapidly trained soldiers but not for accuracy work." The .303 Enfield was designed from the get-go with a .311 bore, requiring .311 bullets. I've loaded the 303 for years and get excellent accuracy from No1, No4, and No5 rifles. The No4 Mk1 (T) sniper variant was a very successful and accurate weapon. Last edited by cold queso; 04-08-2008 at 03:04 PM.

04-08-2008, 04:36 PM	#24
timberlord Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 412	There's going to be more felt recoil when the rifle gets lightened up and still using the same ammo. Same said of many sported No1's and No4's. IMHO , A good comparison would be with the Mosin 91/30 and the M44 , both 7.62x54r. Also with the shorter barrel , the M44 is well known for it's fireball at the muzzle as unburnt powder is still igniting after leaving the barrel . Hense the No5 flashider... __________________ http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...LongStamp1.jpg Last edited by timberlord; 04-08-2008 at 04:40 PM.

04-09-2008, 07:03 PM	#26
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,975	OK, I finally got around to looking under the hard guard at the barrel shank. There are lightening flutes on it! I have a real JC!!!! Now to find some ammo and see if the thing will shoot! I have a slip on butt pad so I don't think the recoil is going to be a big deal. I can't wait to shoot it. __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

11-07-2008, 08:15 AM	#31
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,975	I know of people who can shoot heavy recoiling rifles all day long and it doesn't bother them. I wish I could say that but I can't. I opine that it may have to do with muscle structure, upper body strength and just plain what one is used to. I will say that I CAN take more recoil that I could when I was younger, but that has more to do with soft butt pads and a good shooting vest. I ain't proud. __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

11-07-2008, 07:30 AM	#28
ww2colector Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	is $300 to much for a an efield it looks pritty good

11-07-2008, 07:47 AM	#30
ww2colector Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	45/70

11-07-2008, 04:23 PM	#34
ww2colector Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	thx guys much apreciated

11-07-2008, 04:34 PM	#35
ww2colector Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	just to double check $300 aint tht bad

11-07-2008, 07:03 PM	#38
ww2colector Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 8	nice tht gun looks pain full