Help with New Gun

cardude1010 · 05-20-2009, 11:48 PM

Hey, I just got a gun from a family member and was wondering if anyone could give me some info on it. Ill post some pics.

Trigger9 · 05-21-2009, 06:59 AM

Holy cow! I don't think I ever saw a 1917 that Bubba got to!

Seriously, what you have there is either a M1917 (if it's .30-06) US rifle or a 1914 (?) if it's a .303 British weapon.

During WWI, the US began making rifles of a Mauser-type action, chambered for .303 to send to the Brits and chambered in .30-06 for us. The US version, M1917, made by Eddystone, Remington and others, was a very strong and accurate rifle and served in greater numbers than the 1903 Springfield. (I'm sure someone will come along and correct me where needed).

The only complaint I have about it is the lack of a fully-adjustable rear sight.

It looks like someone cut yours down into a "sporter." I suppose, if they did a good job, it may still be a good rifle. I would think it will kick a lot harder than a normal 1917 too!

Good luck.

madcratebuilder · 05-21-2009, 09:42 AM

Cool old sporter. Most of you guys are way to young to remember that you could buy a .303 Enfield from a tiny ad in the back pages of any sporting magazine for $15. They did not have all the high power rifles that we enjoy today. The average working man bought mil-surp and made it a sporter, lighter and shorter than original. Great brush guns. They killed many a deer in the fifties and sixties.

cardude1010 · 05-21-2009, 05:00 PM

Yah, its a .303, I guess i should have mentioned that.

cardude1010 · 05-22-2009, 06:27 PM

Can anyone tell me how to remove the bolt?

Trigger9 · 05-22-2009, 08:42 PM

It's been a while but I seem to recall a lever, maybe on the left side of the receiver, that you have to move outward to release the bolt.

Isn't a Mauser like that?

gandog56 · 05-22-2009, 08:45 PM

I have a little lever on the RIGHT side of the receiver.

Trigger9 · 05-22-2009, 09:03 PM

The lever that moves forward and back is your safety.

The one that moves just a bit outward is the bolt release.

Try searching the web for "M1917 take down" or "M1917 manual" and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Good luck.

cardude1010 · 05-24-2009, 01:16 AM

Ya, thanks... so easy now

ronbo · 06-03-2009, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madcratebuilder

Cool old sporter. Most of you guys are way to young to remember that you could buy a .303 Enfield from a tiny ad in the back pages of any sporting magazine for $15. They did not have all the high power rifles that we enjoy today. The average working man bought mil-surp and made it a sporter, lighter and shorter than original. Great brush guns. They killed many a deer in the fifties and sixties.

Here's a link to an ad from a 1957 magazine advertising an Enfield you could buy through the mail simply by sending the money.
http://www.MyEasyPics.com/is.php?i=5...nfield_025.jpg

Iron_Colonel · 06-03-2009, 09:50 PM

Looks like it ought to be a good shooter

Range report?

cardude1010 · 06-04-2009, 12:41 AM

Yah hopefully i can get it out to the range soon, but ammo is really expensive for this gun right now! Unless someone knows where I can get some cheap .303 ammo

Alan De Enfield · 06-04-2009, 02:31 AM

Cheap ammunition is cheap for a reason - see the thread a few down titled
"inexepensive 303 ammo"

Palladin8 · 06-04-2009, 10:40 AM

Privi or Wolf ammo would be the cheapest factory stuff I would shoot.

cardude1010 · 06-04-2009, 07:24 PM

Ya, I don't know how much you pay for 303 ammo in the US but in Canada is like $30 a box of 20. Makes me want to start reloading. How easy is it to reload 303 and/or 30/06. I use both

cold queso · 06-04-2009, 07:28 PM

303 and 30-06 are both easy to reload for. You could also use common powder and primer. However, the 303 uses .311 bullets and the 30-06 uses .308.

I use H4895 powder and WLR primers in both with good results. Keeps it simple!

Laufer · 06-05-2009, 04:51 PM

To remove the bolt you first push down on the tiny switch/button on the receiver's right side, then slowly pull the bolt back so that the head is just above the lever.

Then release the switch, which will push the bolt head up just a bit.
Then it can be pulled out.

Once out, if the bolt head rotates too far in the clockwise direction (?), seen from the rear, you won't be able to fully close the bolt after it goes back in.
That's how it works on my newly-acquired Jungle Carbine, and all of these movements are very subtle and not at all easy to notice, compared to the Mosin Nagant.

wunhunglo · 06-11-2009, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laufer

To remove the bolt you first push down on the tiny switch/button on the receiver's right side, then slowly pull the bolt back so that the head is just above the lever.

Then release the switch, which will push the bolt head up just a bit.
Then it can be pulled out.

.

You aint been reading or looking at the pictures, it's a P14 rifle. Mauser style bolt.

Laufer · 06-14-2009, 01:45 AM

Sorry about that.

05-20-2009, 11:48 PM	#1
cardude1010 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 13	Help with New Gun Hey, I just got a gun from a family member and was wondering if anyone could give me some info on it. Ill post some pics. Attached Thumbnails

05-21-2009, 09:42 AM	#3
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 2,395 Images: 3	Cool old sporter. Most of you guys are way to young to remember that you could buy a .303 Enfield from a tiny ad in the back pages of any sporting magazine for $15. They did not have all the high power rifles that we enjoy today. The average working man bought mil-surp and made it a sporter, lighter and shorter than original. Great brush guns. They killed many a deer in the fifties and sixties. __________________ Make peace with your past so it won't screw up the present. Last edited by madcratebuilder; 05-22-2009 at 09:07 AM.

05-22-2009, 08:45 PM	#7
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	I have a little lever on the RIGHT side of the receiver. __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

06-03-2009, 09:50 PM	#11
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,275	Looks like it ought to be a good shooter Range report? __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU!

05-21-2009, 06:59 AM	#2
Trigger9 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 32	Holy cow! I don't think I ever saw a 1917 that Bubba got to! Seriously, what you have there is either a M1917 (if it's .30-06) US rifle or a 1914 (?) if it's a .303 British weapon. During WWI, the US began making rifles of a Mauser-type action, chambered for .303 to send to the Brits and chambered in .30-06 for us. The US version, M1917, made by Eddystone, Remington and others, was a very strong and accurate rifle and served in greater numbers than the 1903 Springfield. (I'm sure someone will come along and correct me where needed). The only complaint I have about it is the lack of a fully-adjustable rear sight. It looks like someone cut yours down into a "sporter." I suppose, if they did a good job, it may still be a good rifle. I would think it will kick a lot harder than a normal 1917 too! Good luck.

05-21-2009, 05:00 PM	#4
cardude1010 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 13	Yah, its a .303, I guess i should have mentioned that.

05-22-2009, 06:27 PM	#5
cardude1010 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 13	Can anyone tell me how to remove the bolt?

05-22-2009, 08:42 PM	#6
Trigger9 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 32	It's been a while but I seem to recall a lever, maybe on the left side of the receiver, that you have to move outward to release the bolt. Isn't a Mauser like that?

05-22-2009, 09:03 PM	#8
Trigger9 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 32	The lever that moves forward and back is your safety. The one that moves just a bit outward is the bolt release. Try searching the web for "M1917 take down" or "M1917 manual" and you'll see what I'm talking about. Good luck.

05-24-2009, 01:16 AM	#9
cardude1010 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 13	Ya, thanks... so easy now

06-04-2009, 12:41 AM	#12
cardude1010 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 13	Yah hopefully i can get it out to the range soon, but ammo is really expensive for this gun right now! Unless someone knows where I can get some cheap .303 ammo

06-04-2009, 02:31 AM	#13
Alan De Enfield Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Eastern England Posts: 278	Cheap ammunition is cheap for a reason - see the thread a few down titled "inexepensive 303 ammo"

06-04-2009, 10:40 AM	#14
Palladin8 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,451	Privi or Wolf ammo would be the cheapest factory stuff I would shoot.

06-04-2009, 07:24 PM	#15
cardude1010 Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 13	Ya, I don't know how much you pay for 303 ammo in the US but in Canada is like $30 a box of 20. Makes me want to start reloading. How easy is it to reload 303 and/or 30/06. I use both

06-04-2009, 07:28 PM	#16
cold queso Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 196	303 and 30-06 are both easy to reload for. You could also use common powder and primer. However, the 303 uses .311 bullets and the 30-06 uses .308. I use H4895 powder and WLR primers in both with good results. Keeps it simple!

06-05-2009, 04:51 PM	#17
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 544	To remove the bolt you first push down on the tiny switch/button on the receiver's right side, then slowly pull the bolt back so that the head is just above the lever. Then release the switch, which will push the bolt head up just a bit. Then it can be pulled out. Once out, if the bolt head rotates too far in the clockwise direction (?), seen from the rear, you won't be able to fully close the bolt after it goes back in. That's how it works on my newly-acquired Jungle Carbine, and all of these movements are very subtle and not at all easy to notice, compared to the Mosin Nagant.

06-14-2009, 01:45 AM	#19
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 544	Sorry about that.