Finger salt on ammo: durability.

Laufer · 07-13-2009, 09:43 PM

This is '43 British-made and 70's POF.

Let's assume that no hands have ever touched this ammo, the '43 is from Samco and the POF is partly from elsewhere.

If the first fingerprints contact it today, about how many years before the salt would finally contact the primers etc and reduce the reliability if it continues to be stored in an ammo can (inside)?
Would it last at least 3-5 years?

M14man · 07-14-2009, 12:00 AM

I would say touching it has no effect. It's reliability is in how it was stored, and how it was made. Good Brit ammo may be 100% 60+ years later, while POF may be 70% stored the same way. If they were subjected to extremes and moisture, reliability drops drastically.

gandog56 · 07-14-2009, 12:09 AM

Touch it -where? How much crud on th fingers...and what type?

Too many variables

JimBob · 07-14-2009, 01:48 AM

POF is very unreliable to start with.I know hardly anyone who buys it except when,like now,there is nothing else available.

jerry · 07-14-2009, 07:32 AM

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

bigione · 07-14-2009, 09:23 AM

Just as an added thought, I read many years ago that the oils/sweat frin a womans hands would cause more and sooner rust on a gun than that of a man. Something in the hormones if I remember right. It might be true of brass as well.

JimBob · 07-14-2009, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

LMAO 347!

matt760 · 07-19-2009, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigione

Just as an added thought, I read many years ago that the oils/sweat frin a womans hands would cause more and sooner rust on a gun than that of a man. Something in the hormones if I remember right. It might be true of brass as well.

My grandpa told me something like this too. He worked as a diesel mechanic for UPS for 31 years. He said that on some early mechanical fuel injection systems generally only women assembled them at the factory and that they were not allowed to do so while they were on their period. He said it was something to do with their body chemistry that time of month. Something about screens and small parts becoming corroded I believe.

Big Dog · 07-19-2009, 05:50 AM

I've known guys who say their touch causes more rusting than other guys. Depends on the person. Like mosquitos are drawn to some folks more than others.

Touching the brass and then storing it may cause discoloration of it - but that doesn't affect the primers. Humidity and temperature extremes may well ruin them.

gandog56 · 07-19-2009, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimBob

POF is very unreliable to start with.I know hardly anyone who buys it except when,like now,there is nothing else available.

Which is probably WHY it is available, and others aren't.

M14man · 07-19-2009, 12:48 PM

The whole point of this forum was addressing if I touch ammo is it ruined....you have twisted it around in the side bars..the answer is still no! Touching ammo will not give it the kiss of death. PS this is my 1000th post here.

PAPA G · 07-19-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

i don't know...i'll have to ask her

gandog56 · 07-19-2009, 10:24 PM

You know Tootsie, too?

Great gal.

texnmidwest · 07-22-2009, 06:52 AM

Was there a point to this thread? Someone seems to think there was....

gandog56 · 07-23-2009, 11:28 AM

Might have been at the start, but the question was answered.

texnmidwest · 07-23-2009, 06:30 PM

Wait, this is the Enfield forum.....I thought this only happens in the Mosin forum! Looks like we have corrupted another forum!!!

Laufer · 07-24-2009, 12:33 AM

Texn/Gandog:

No sweat, as I always enjoy comments of all you guys, whether you have much more experience with guns or not.
It would not be so interesting if each question only received a simple answer.

Also looking forward to any replies about a good MN 44's value on 'that' forum.

sdoyl123 · 08-10-2009, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laufer

Texn/Gandog:

No sweat, as I always enjoy comments of all you guys, whether you have much more experience with guns or not.
It would not be so interesting if each question only received a simple answer.

Also looking forward to any replies about a good MN 44's value on 'that' forum.

Check out Widners. They have them for $99. That is the best deal I have seen in a while.
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07-13-2009, 09:43 PM	#1
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 547	Finger salt on ammo: durability. This is '43 British-made and 70's POF. Let's assume that no hands have ever touched this ammo, the '43 is from Samco and the POF is partly from elsewhere. If the first fingerprints contact it today, about how many years before the salt would finally contact the primers etc and reduce the reliability if it continues to be stored in an ammo can (inside)? Would it last at least 3-5 years?

07-14-2009, 12:09 AM	#3
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	Touch it -where? How much crud on th fingers...and what type? Too many variables __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

07-19-2009, 05:50 AM	#9
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 12,908	I've known guys who say their touch causes more rusting than other guys. Depends on the person. Like mosquitos are drawn to some folks more than others. Touching the brass and then storing it may cause discoloration of it - but that doesn't affect the primers. Humidity and temperature extremes may well ruin them. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

07-19-2009, 10:24 PM	#13
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	You know Tootsie, too? Great gal. __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

07-22-2009, 06:52 AM	#14
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,978	Was there a point to this thread? Someone seems to think there was.... __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

07-14-2009, 12:00 AM	#2
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	I would say touching it has no effect. It's reliability is in how it was stored, and how it was made. Good Brit ammo may be 100% 60+ years later, while POF may be 70% stored the same way. If they were subjected to extremes and moisture, reliability drops drastically.

07-14-2009, 01:48 AM	#4
JimBob Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Central Illinois Posts: 725	POF is very unreliable to start with.I know hardly anyone who buys it except when,like now,there is nothing else available.

07-14-2009, 07:32 AM	#5
jerry Short Time Shirt Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 13,228 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

07-14-2009, 09:23 AM	#6
bigione Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: south central SD` Posts: 219	Just as an added thought, I read many years ago that the oils/sweat frin a womans hands would cause more and sooner rust on a gun than that of a man. Something in the hormones if I remember right. It might be true of brass as well.

07-19-2009, 12:48 PM	#11
M14man Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FLA Posts: 1,162 Images: 10	The whole point of this forum was addressing if I touch ammo is it ruined....you have twisted it around in the side bars..the answer is still no! Touching ammo will not give it the kiss of death. PS this is my 1000th post here.

07-23-2009, 11:28 AM	#15
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,784	Might have been at the start, but the question was answered. __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

07-23-2009, 06:30 PM	#16
texnmidwest Some People's kids.... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 6,978	Wait, this is the Enfield forum.....I thought this only happens in the Mosin forum! Looks like we have corrupted another forum!!! __________________ never pass up a bathroom, never waste a ** , and never trust a fart.

07-24-2009, 12:33 AM	#17
Laufer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Down south. Posts: 547	Texn/Gandog: No sweat, as I always enjoy comments of all you guys, whether you have much more experience with guns or not. It would not be so interesting if each question only received a simple answer. Also looking forward to any replies about a good MN 44's value on 'that' forum.