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Gun and Game - Firearms Forums http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/ Come and join us at the friendliest firearm and hunting forum! en Thu, 23 May 2013 12:42:32 GMT vBulletin 60 http://cdn.gunandgame.com/forums/images/gag/misc/rss.jpg Gun and Game - Firearms Forums http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/ Edge pro vs wicked edge http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/knives-cutlery/157573-edge-pro-vs-wicked-edge.html Thu, 23 May 2013 12:09:48 GMT I know there is alot of reviews out there about them already but does anyone here have either of these systems and can give a current opinion of them as everything I am finding is from. 2010.

Posted From Gun & Game Mobile! ]]> Knives/Cutlery travisg96 http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/knives-cutlery/157573-edge-pro-vs-wicked-edge.html <![CDATA[Can't Catch A Break On The Weather]]> http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157572-cant-catch-break-weather.html Thu, 23 May 2013 11:50:45 GMT As the tornado cleanup continues in Oklahoma, a new batch of severe thunderstorms are now moving into the area. They aren't tornadic, but they're bringing large hail, torrential rain, and damaging winds. It's pretty much a line with one heading our way. Our property is totally saturated and won't accept any more rain. In the last ten days, we've had well over 6 inches of rain with more heavy rain on the way....... The cleanup efforts will have to be put on hold for a while in the affected areas...... 17 miles of destruction, 1.3 miles wide. ]]> The Powder Keg Brother Bob http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157572-cant-catch-break-weather.html Memorial Day http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157571-memorial-day.html Thu, 23 May 2013 10:55:23 GMT Some things to think about this weekend when family activities are the order of the day.......

Respects, and thanks to all who have served, and are serving. It's a meager offering, but it's heartfelt.

Memorial Day Quotes....

Here is a collection of some of the most famous Memorial Day quotes and sayings:

War is too serious a matter to entrust to military men. -Georges Clemenceau

Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -Senator Barry Goldwater

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -William Pitt

Chance has never yet satisfied the hope of a suffering people. Action, self-reliance, the vision of self and the future have been the only means by which the oppressed have seen and realized the light of their own freedom. -Marcus Garvey

In war, there is no prize for the runner-up. -General Omar Bradley

So long as there are men there will be wars. -Albert Einstein

I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. -Albert Einstein

The cost of liberty is less than the cost of repression. -Web Dubois

The purpose of all war is ultimately peace. -Saint Augustine

And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free, and I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me and I'll proudly stand next to him to defend her still today, 'cuz there ain't no doubt I love this land, god bless the USA. -Lee Greenwood

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. -John F. Kennedy

Future years will never know the seething hell and the black infernal background, the countless minor scenes and interiors of the secession war; and it is best they should not. The real war will never get in the books. -Walt Whitman

As I approach the gates of heaven;
St. Peter I will tell;
One more soldier reporting sir;
I've served my time in hell. -Mark Anthony Gresswell

The story of America's quest for freedom is inscribed on her history in the blood of her patriots. -Randy Vader

The dead soldier's silence sings our national anthem. -Rev. Aaron Kilbourn

When we say "War is over if you want it," we mean that if everyone demanded peace instead of another TV set, we'd have peace. -John Lennon

Peace is more important than all justice; and peace was not made for the sake of justice, but justice for the sake of peace. -Martin Luther

I think that, as life is action and passion, it is required of a man that he should share the passion and action of his time at peril of being judged not to have lived. -Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

Soldier, rest! Thy warfare o'er,
Sleep the sleep that knows not breaking,
Dream of battled fields no more.
Days of danger, nights of waking. -Sir Walter Scott

The greatest glory of a free-born people is to transmit that freedom to their children. -William Havard

http://www.thememorialdaytribute.com...ial-day-quotes.

“We can’t all be heroes. Some of us have to stand on the curb and clap as they go by...” Will Rogers ]]> The Powder Keg Jay http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157571-memorial-day.html safety warning for those of us who cast http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157570-safety-warning-those-us-who-cast.html Thu, 23 May 2013 06:16:31 GMT Learn from the pic I am about to post, just because your hands were dry going in the welding gloves does not mean they didnt sweat producing steam when picking up a cast iron skillet of lead. Did this little number while smelting down some range lead. Learn from this because trust me STUPID... Learn from the pic I am about to post, just because your hands were dry going in the welding gloves does not mean they didnt sweat producing steam when picking up a cast iron skillet of lead. Did this little number while smelting down some range lead.

Learn from this because trust me STUPID HURTS!!!!!

]]> The Powder Keg 338RUM http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157570-safety-warning-those-us-who-cast.html Thinking of ReChambering http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/general-rifle/157569-thinking-rechambering.html Thu, 23 May 2013 04:11:51 GMT I have pretty much decided I would like to shoot 155 SMK Palma Or 168 Berger VLD's

I have loaded both, and can not get the accuracy I want when seated to fit in my mag.

Rifle is a Remington 700 SPS Varmint in .308 with a 26 inch barrel

Thinking of rechambering it with a 2011 PALMA reamer.

Here are some numbers for the nuts that under stand it.

168gr Berger VLD

Loaded to fit the mag
2.170 to the ogive
2.860 over all to the tip

Measured my chamber with hornady tools

2.350 to the ogive
3.041 over all to the tip

155 Palma #2156

Loaded to fit the mag
2.183 to the ogive
2.845 to the tip

Measured my chamber with hornady tools

2.403 to the ogive
3.062 over all to the tip

Here are the specs on the reamer.
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Any thoughts or input? ]]> General Rifle Clayne_b http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/general-rifle/157569-thinking-rechambering.html Had a pretty good day today!! http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157568-had-pretty-good-day-today.html Thu, 23 May 2013 03:39:55 GMT As I already posted in the Wally World thread, I was fortunate enough to run across some .22LR this morning at Wal Mart in Madill Ok. Bought two 325rd boxes of Federal Target Grade for $14.27 ea. and one 100rd box of CCI Mini Mag .22LR HP for $7.27. I thought they were both a little high but still... As I already posted in the Wally World thread, I was fortunate enough to run across some .22LR this morning at Wal Mart in Madill Ok. Bought two 325rd boxes of Federal Target Grade for $14.27 ea. and one 100rd box of CCI Mini Mag .22LR HP for $7.27. I thought they were both a little high but still worth it since they are so hard to come by. Then got back to my hotel room and went to Midway USA looking for a 7rd mag for my new XDS. They are usually about $7-$8 cheaper than everybody else. Midway has them for $32.99 plus $4.57 shipping and the $.44 NRA Roundup my total was $38.00.But like everybody else usually out of stock. So when I get a chance and think about it I go look. Low and behold they were in stock today so I ordered one. Would have ordered two but spent the rest of my allowance on the ammo at Wally World. That's ok, at least I will have one now and will keep watching so I can order another one when I get the cash, heck I may even save up
And order two more. Anyway I had a pretty good day I thought.

(Somewhere) Via Gun & Game Mobile! ]]> The Powder Keg Halmech http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157568-had-pretty-good-day-today.html Gas Block question http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/ar15/157567-gas-block-question.html Thu, 23 May 2013 02:49:37 GMT Ok please bear with me on this one as this is my first AR. I just got a new low profile gas block and am a bit confused. The hole that the gas tube goes into is open on both ends, it this normal? This is the gas block that I ordered, and I have not taken the old one off yet or looked at the gas... Ok please bear with me on this one as this is my first AR. I just got a new low profile gas block and am a bit confused. The hole that the gas tube goes into is open on both ends, it this normal? This is the gas block that I ordered, and I have not taken the old one off yet or looked at the gas tube, so I am a bit clueless on this. It just seemed counter intuitive to have both ends open like that.

DoubleStar Race Gun Low Profile Extended Gas Block AR-15 LR-308 That is the block I ordered. ]]> AR15 Krazycheetah http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/ar15/157567-gas-block-question.html <![CDATA[It's love.]]> http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/humor-forum/157566-its-love.html Thu, 23 May 2013 02:46:24 GMT Attachment 61075 (http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/attachments/humor-forum/61075-its-love-lovely.jpg) Attachment 61075

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]]> Humor Forum savage12755a http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/humor-forum/157566-its-love.html Terrorists cells http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/political-topics/157565-terrorists-cells.html Thu, 23 May 2013 00:54:04 GMT In the wake of all that is happening and has happened with the radical Muslims,has anyone thought about there being a terrorist cell close to your home town or near it? How would you be able to tell if it was,and if you found out about it,what would you do? I really think that this is an... In the wake of all that is happening and has happened with the radical Muslims,has anyone thought about there being a terrorist cell close to your home town or near it? How would you be able to tell if it was,and if you found out about it,what would you do?

I really think that this is an important thread and that it generates a lot of feed back. ]]> Political Topics jason1965 http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/political-topics/157565-terrorists-cells.html govt theft of retirement accts has begun http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/political-topics/157564-govt-theft-retirement-accts-has-begun.html Thu, 23 May 2013 00:52:59 GMT The Government Theft of Retirement Accounts Has Begun | (http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/the-government-theft-of-retirement-accounts-has-begun/44982#more-44982) *The Greatest Wealth Transfer In History* I am still haunted by the image of former head of the Goldman Sachs crime ... The Government Theft of Retirement Accounts Has Begun |

The Greatest Wealth Transfer In History

I am still haunted by the image of former head of the Goldman Sachs crime syndicate and former Treasury Secretary, Hank Paulson, telling a closed session of Congress that if they did not grant Wall Street “bailouts” there will be martial law in the streets as a result of the economy collapsing. Ask yourself, if almost five years later and three bailouts later, are Americans better off having sacrificed the bailout money in lieu of maintaining roads, improving schools as well as running the national debt through the ceiling and destroying the financial heritage of our children?

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The Latest In Stealing From the American People

The Treasury Department once again is taking federal retirement programs to buy the government more time to increase the nation’s debt ceiling. And why does the government need to raise the debt ceiling? The debt ceiling must be raised for two reasons, (1) in order to fund the banker-inspired wars of occupation and, (2) to continue to fund the largest wealth transfer in history, the bailouts

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Last Friday, Lew announced that the government was taking the unprecedented action of avoiding governmental default through this summer by including tapping into and suspending investments into the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund

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martial law will commence when the banksters are done looting America. When they have seized your bank accounts, your social security funds, your home mortgages, your pensions and your 401K’s, then, and only then will they roll out martial law ]]> Political Topics anykey http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/political-topics/157564-govt-theft-retirement-accts-has-begun.html Is America’s Economy Being Sovietized? http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/political-topics/157563-america%92s-economy-being-sovietized.html Thu, 23 May 2013 00:41:02 GMT One of the primary tenets of The Communist Manifesto was the creation of a central bank meant to keep tight controls over currency issuance. The existence of a central bank immediately disrupts any chance of a true free market. Central banking without competition allows an oligarchy, whether... One of the primary tenets of The Communist Manifesto was the creation of a central bank meant to keep tight controls over currency issuance. The existence of a central bank immediately disrupts any chance of a true free market. Central banking without competition allows an oligarchy, whether corporate or political or a meshing of the two, to manipulate interest rates as well as adjust prices through inflation

Prison Planet.com » Is America ]]> Political Topics anykey http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/political-topics/157563-america%92s-economy-being-sovietized.html Local gun store has ammo..and milsurps... http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/florida/157562-local-gun-store-has-ammo-milsurps.html Thu, 23 May 2013 00:07:33 GMT Well today i drove across town to this LGS i have never been too. it's called Green Acres Sporting goods, huge store, tons of stuff. They did have rakcs full of ammo, including all calibers, rim fire rifle pistol, milsurp..everything.

bulk box of remington thungderbolt .22lr....$79.99! 50 rnd boxes of remington .22lr, 9.99.. 50 rnds 9mm..$39.99...20 rnds x54r...$16.99, for spam can milsurp!

needless to say i didnt buy any ammo, it was nice to see the racks full but holy cow! the guy was honest and friendly, he said they basically had a choice, pay more for ammo and have some on the shelves, or not have any at all.

Now, the did have a VERY nice collection of used rifles. plenty of milsurps, decent prices too. a couple that caught my eye were a ruger 77/44 44 mag, a m44, tons of lever actions, a few garands and tons of other stuff. they had a bunch of random used rifle stocks for half off, i almost bought a decent wooden ruger 10/22 stock. they also had a ton of used ar-mags. I bought a 10 rounder bushmaster stainless steel magazine for $20, not the cheapest ever, but its a very nice magazine and i want to get some less than full capacity mags in preparation for a move to colorado. it's really hard to find 15 rnd mags plus i figured a 10 rounder might come in handy if i ever want to take the ar hunting. ]]> Florida MosinRuger http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/florida/157562-local-gun-store-has-ammo-milsurps.html No 4 MK I project. http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/enfield-rifles/157561-no-4-mk-i-project.html Wed, 22 May 2013 23:45:06 GMT I picked up this rifle a while back, It's not been sporterized and was made by Fazakerley in 1943. It has a nice, shiny bore and two groove rifling.

I just ordered a replacement rear hand guard because the one on the rifle was whacked by something that took out a big chunk of wood. I'd like to replace the main stock body as well but probably won't find one. Anyways, I thought I'd refinish the wood to make all the pieces match and I'm considering refinishing the metal also.

Anyone here done this and if so what was your method? ]]> Enfield Rifles PSLMAN http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/enfield-rifles/157561-no-4-mk-i-project.html pics of cats playing hide and seek- http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157560-pics-cats-playing-hide-seek.html Wed, 22 May 2013 23:32:58 GMT 40 Cats Who Are Awful At Hide-And-Seek (http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/cats-who-are-awful-at-hide-and-seek) 40 Cats Who Are Awful At Hide-And-Seek

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]]> The Powder Keg anykey http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/powder-keg/157560-pics-cats-playing-hide-seek.html 1100 Deer Barrel http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/shotguns/157559-1100-deer-barrel.html Wed, 22 May 2013 23:13:17 GMT Just a quick question. Have a Rem. 1100 older TB trap model and was wondering if I could mount a rifled deer barrel on this model without causing damage to the gun. Heard these target guns differ from the field models. Something about the barrels not being pressure compensated. Should the action on... Just a quick question. Have a Rem. 1100 older TB trap model and was wondering if I could mount a rifled deer barrel on this model without causing damage to the gun. Heard these target guns differ from the field models. Something about the barrels not being pressure compensated. Should the action on this model chamber and eject the sabot slug shells by use of the deer barrel? ]]> Shotguns mauser9 http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/shotguns/157559-1100-deer-barrel.html