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			<title>bullets or just balls?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:12:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Am thinking about getting a blackpowder pistol and am kinda new to black powder anyways.  But heres my question, can you use cast bullets in the pistols or just round balls?  I know the powder charge will depend on bullet weight and the length of the bullet would also be a factor but will they...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Am thinking about getting a blackpowder pistol and am kinda new to black powder anyways.  But heres my question, can you use cast bullets in the pistols or just round balls?  I know the powder charge will depend on bullet weight and the length of the bullet would also be a factor but will they work? Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Though either way I will probably end up with one.</div>

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			<title>My new muzzle loader.</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:08:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was at a garage sale and I saw an old Connecticut Valley Arms .54 cal muzzle loader for $25 so doing what just about any G&G member would do I bought it. Its in pretty poor shape but is shootable. The main thing is the barrel is washed out and pitted. Is is reasonable to get a new barrel for it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was at a garage sale and I saw an old Connecticut Valley Arms .54 cal muzzle loader for $25 so doing what just about any G&amp;G member would do I bought it. Its in pretty poor shape but is shootable. The main thing is the barrel is washed out and pitted. Is is reasonable to get a new barrel for it or am I most likely better off using it as a boom stick for new years?</div>

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			<title>english muzzle loader</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:50:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have a double barrelled muzzle loader shotgun. Collings and Wallis. 
Where can I get additional information?</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have a double barrelled muzzle loader shotgun. Collings and Wallis.<br />
Where can I get additional information?</div>

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			<title>looking for info</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:50:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hello and good day to all. 
  
I am pretty new to muzzleloader shooting and hunting, i have had a flintlock .50cal tradations for a few years and i have shot it about 45-50 times. and i have built a Kentucky long rifle kit that is a percussion cap and its brother the pistol kit, the rifle has not...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hello and good day to all.<br />
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I am pretty new to muzzleloader shooting and hunting, i have had a flintlock .50cal tradations for a few years and i have shot it about 45-50 times. and i have built a Kentucky long rifle kit that is a percussion cap and its brother the pistol kit, the rifle has not been shot but the pistol has been. and last year for christmas i got a CVA wolf 50 cal and i have shot it alot trying to sight in the scope i put on it. <br />
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in the flintlock i shot a sabot and loose powder and its not all that had to reload till you get to about the 4th shot then its time to clean, <br />
:feedback:<br />
with my in line i am only able  to shot 2-3 rounds  im shooting th<br />
e power belt arrow tips with pyrodex pellets,<br />
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my Question to you folks that know alot more about these rilfes than i do is there a cleaner burning powder than the pyrodex pellets so i dont have to clean my rifle at the range every 3 shots??</div>

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			<title>muzzle velocity</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:30:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Ok i have a question 
  
i dont have a cronagraph and i was wondering what the muzzle volicity is on my CVA wolf 50cal shooting 295gr arrow tip bullets and 100gr of pyordex pellets  in the barrel. the barrel is 1 in 28 and im useing the remington 209 primers</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Ok i have a question<br />
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i dont have a cronagraph and i was wondering what the muzzle volicity is on my CVA wolf 50cal shooting 295gr arrow tip bullets and 100gr of pyordex pellets  in the barrel. the barrel is 1 in 28 and im useing the remington 209 primers</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[cabela's timber ridge for optima?]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:56:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[i have two optima's that a friend wants, he has a couple of timber ridge rifles from cabela's he says he will trade plus some money. the timber ridge rifles are still in the box not fired, how good are they? i have never owned a traditions muzzleloader. he's offering his two rifles for my two...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i have two optima's that a friend wants, he has a couple of timber ridge rifles from cabela's he says he will trade plus some money. the timber ridge rifles are still in the box not fired, how good are they? i have never owned a traditions muzzleloader. he's offering his two rifles for my two rifles plus give me $150 dollars, ya'll think thats ok. thanks for any help.</div>

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			<title>Many questions.. looking to learn</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:13:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I have no experience what so ever with a black powder rifle. I want to get into it, but i know nothing. i'm looking at a Kentucky rifle kit (im crafty and have the tools) but my buddy has a cva bobcat whom he is aiming to sale at a decent price. is it ok for a first muzzleloader? Can you buy a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have no experience what so ever with a black powder rifle. I want to get into it, but i know nothing. i'm looking at a Kentucky rifle kit (im crafty and have the tools) but my buddy has a cva bobcat whom he is aiming to sale at a decent price. is it ok for a first muzzleloader? Can you buy a wooden stock custom fit it to it to make it more like an old style rifle? any suggestions?</div>

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			<title>looseness with forearm off??</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:34:28 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[i have had several threads on here about my optima, so far ya'll or cva have help straighten them out. this time i have question about barrel to frame tightness, when i take the forearm off and hold the stock tight there is a slight movement side to side.i can't see it but can feel it just a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i have had several threads on here about my optima, so far ya'll or cva have help straighten them out. this time i have question about barrel to frame tightness, when i take the forearm off and hold the stock tight there is a slight movement side to side.i can't see it but can feel it just a little, there is no up and down movement. with the forearm on there is no movement, i tried my other optima the one i've never fired and its the same way. with the forearms on they are tight but take the forearms off and there is slight movement. is this normal?, i contacted cva again and they said its ok to have movement with the forearm off, but it should be tight with the forearm on. have any of ya'll tried your's to see if they are tight with the forearm off? i'm not talking about a lot of wobble but if i hold the frame tight there is slight movement with the forearm off. thanks for any help.</div>

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			<title>Rusty Duck Blackout</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:11:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I used some of this product for the first time this year. It is fantastic. Clean up is a snap with this stuff. Don't have to do all the washing and stuff. Just remove the breeech plug, swab out the bore with Black out until U get a clean patch, "usually a total of three, clean your breech plug with...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I used some of this product for the first time this year. It is fantastic. Clean up is a snap with this stuff. Don't have to do all the washing and stuff. Just remove the breeech plug, swab out the bore with Black out until U get a clean patch, &quot;usually a total of three, clean your breech plug with it, grease the plug and install it and U are through.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Boone</dc:creator>
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			<title>Perrins of Worcester - England</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:34:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Perrins of Worcester stared business in 1831 and we have found a number of muzzle loading guns - if you have one please get in touch. Here is a press release with contact details. 
*Perrins of Worcester, Gunmakers.* 
 
A group of Perrins Gun Owners have recently formed a club to pull together...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Perrins of Worcester stared business in 1831 and we have found a number of muzzle loading guns - if you have one please get in touch. Here is a press release with contact details.<br />
<b><font face="Times New Roman">Perrins of Worcester, Gunmakers.</font></b><br />
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<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">A group of Perrins Gun Owners have recently formed a club to pull together information on this gunmaker and set up a web site as a reference point.</font></font><br />
<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">The web site address is </font></font><a href="http://www.perrins-gunmaker-of-worcester.org.uk/" target="_blank"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><font color="#800080">http://www.perrins-gunmaker-of-worcester.org.uk/</font></font></font></a><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">. Membership is free and the only requirement is that you own a Perrins gun made in Worcester and you supply photos and detail for your own page on the web site.</font></font><br />
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<font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">If you own a Perrins, or know someone else who does, then get in touch. The e-m address is </font><font color="#cc9933"><font face="Trebuchet MS"><a href="mailto:webmaster@perrins-gunmaker-of-worcester.org.uk"><font color="#0000ff">webmaster@perrins-gunmaker-of-worcester.org.uk</font></a></font></font></font><br />
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<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">At the moment we have members who own Pepperpot pistols, converted rook rifles, percussion cap muzzle loaders, breach loading hammer guns in 20, 16, 14, 12 and 10 bore. We also have a member who has a very unusual ‘dummy hammer’ breach loading shotgun and another with an early side lock. We know there are many more out there as Holts sold a pin fire shotgun a few years ago and there is also an 8 bore double rifle, which was part of the W.Keith Neal collection. We also know of a 32 calibre rim fire revolver for sale at Kranks.</font></font><br />
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<font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman">This family firm was founded in Worcester in 1831 and the latest gun we have found was proofed after 1896, so they were in business for around 65 year, covering one of the most innovative periods in gun making. We recently came across a 19 bore precision rifle for sale in Auckland with the engraving ‘Perrins &amp; Son, Gun makers to HRH The Prince Consort, Winsor’ on the barrel. While Perrins are not considered one of the very top makers the quality and diversity of the different guns they made make this a fascinating firm to research and collect.</font></font><br />
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JC</div>

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			<title>Barrel Reduction</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:06:19 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[SO by tomorrow i should have a Green Mountain .32 13/16" 42" barrel on the way and i have a few options open to me as i go to bed this beauty in what will soon be a new squirrel rifle. My question is, am i gonna be stuck with all 42" as that's a bit excessive for my plans, or should i be able to...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>SO by tomorrow i should have a Green Mountain .32 13/16&quot; 42&quot; barrel on the way and i have a few options open to me as i go to bed this beauty in what will soon be a new squirrel rifle. My question is, am i gonna be stuck with all 42&quot; as that's a bit excessive for my plans, or should i be able to cut back a few inches, recrown with an abrasive dremmel bit turned by hand, and finish off any rough edges without seriously harming accuracy?</div>

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			<dc:creator>wcassidy</dc:creator>
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			<title>barricade in a muzzleloader??</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>i just got thru cleaning my muzzleloader after sighting in 777 powder. i found a little rust in my gun nothing bad just light spot or two, i have used bore butter for years cause it was made for muzzleloaders. i have heard recently that its not the best for a muzzleloader and if not used just right...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i just got thru cleaning my muzzleloader after sighting in 777 powder. i found a little rust in my gun nothing bad just light spot or two, i have used bore butter for years cause it was made for muzzleloaders. i have heard recently that its not the best for a muzzleloader and if not used just right it will cause rust to form. i went to my gun shop earlier and asked them, they said absolutely to not use any regular gun products in a muzzleloader. they said to use non pretroleum cleaning products, and bore butter or a natural rust preventive. i have used barricade for years in my other guns and none have any rust issues, will it be ok after cleaning my barrel to put barricade in it to prevent rust? thanks for any help.</div>

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			<dc:creator>old fart</dc:creator>
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			<title>CVA and Traditions Mainsprings</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:07:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've got two flintlocks and the mainsprings are done for. I've checked Track of the Wolf and Dixie for them and have had no luck finding them, no luck with the companies either, the guns are at least 25 years old. Anybody have any other places they'd look? I'm gonna try Midway, Brownells, Natchez,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've got two flintlocks and the mainsprings are done for. I've checked Track of the Wolf and Dixie for them and have had no luck finding them, no luck with the companies either, the guns are at least 25 years old. Anybody have any other places they'd look? I'm gonna try Midway, Brownells, Natchez, and Numrich just for grins and giggles now.</div>

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			<title>Small Caliber BP</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:08:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[What is the smallest caliber "side lock" rifle available? I was kinda thinkin' on gettin' me a squirrel rifle. My old .54 tears up too much meat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>What is the smallest caliber &quot;side lock&quot; rifle available? I was kinda thinkin' on gettin' me a squirrel rifle. My old .54 tears up too much meat.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Don357</dc:creator>
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			<title>pyrodex to 777 what to change?</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:02:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[i have decided to change from pyrodex powder to 777 powder, i now use 80 grains of pyrodex. if i use 80 grains of 777 how will my bullet impact change?, i don't want to use too many shots as powder and bullets are getting higher all the time. i now have my optima shooting dead on at 100 yds with...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>i have decided to change from pyrodex powder to 777 powder, i now use 80 grains of pyrodex. if i use 80 grains of 777 how will my bullet impact change?, i don't want to use too many shots as powder and bullets are getting higher all the time. i now have my optima shooting dead on at 100 yds with pyrodex, i checked with hodgen and they reccomend dropping the charge down to 65 with 777 to make bullet impact the same. i would like to know from ya'll that have made the switch to 777 and how ya'll did, it seems 65 is a little light and besides my measure only goes in 10 grain increasements so i could drop to 70 if thats true. thanks for any help.</div>

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