Carnivore thoughts or why certain animals are shunned as food sources

[billy]

dont eat the liver of carnivores.
there is a toxic amount of vitamin A

[irish murphy]

Originally Posted by killer

Nothing like a "brace of young conies" for the boiling pot.

Im guessing they are rabbit,Here is one i found under my mates farm house not long ago.

[Big Dog]

Most folks just don't do well with the unfamiliar. Strange food puts them off.

I grew up eating Squirrel, Rabbit, Deer, Duck, Coot, Woodpecker, Robin, Turtle.
Later added Gator.
Once ate some earthworms - not bad, a bit 'earthy' tasting.
Once tried a roach on a dare - yuck . . .

I can be pretty adventursome in foods, but some are OFF my menu - like POSSUM!! After killing a couple, they are far too 'dirty' and stinky - they are optimal scavengers.

Most of those who don't like bushmeat are too hooked on fat. Bushmeat tends to be far leaner.

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by ezearln

Sorry I hadn't answered this in a while but Mod 70 not too far back the Missus and I were in Austin (Yes Texas) and the big HEB Market there has a bodacious meat and seafood counter as well as a wild "game" section. Now most of their stuff isn't too high priced and most is reasonable BUT! I about lost my temper when looking through the selections I came across rattlesnake meat ( a piece about 16-18" long maybe 1 1/2- 2 lbs) priced out at $44.00. Now I can find a rattler and pop him for the whopping price of a .22LR cartridge why in the name of Sam Houston would I or anyone else with any sense pay $44.00 for a scrap of reptile for the skillet!

Because it ain't good unless you've paid a fortune for it, Earl. Some of the best advice I've ever heard is that if you're having trouble selling something, keep raising the price until some fool thinks it has to be wonderful if it costs that much.

I remember some snot in a sporting goods store lecturing me once, for buying a "no-name" hunting vest at half the price of the Benelli vest right beside it. "After all," he sniffed, "you get what you pay for." I answered, "very true. And sometimes, what you pay for is the brand name."

As far as game goes, I'm always a little puzzled by the multitude of advice people have for "getting rid of the gamey taste" in wild meat. If someone wants game meat to taste bland like store-bought pork, chicken and beef, they may as well just go down to the grocery store to begin with, and save all the trouble.

Yeah, I know; that's a broad over-generalization, and I better duck before the rotten tomatoes start flying...peace, brethren.

I know there's stuff out there that's a little strong, and needs to be successfully tamed one way or another. Properly aging it would probably help most, but that's hard to do at home.

[toolman]

Originally Posted by ezearln

Now I can find a rattler and pop him for the whopping price of a .22LR cartridge why in the name of Sam Houston would I or anyone else with any sense pay $44.00 for a scrap of reptile for the skillet!

Well he ll Earl, part of that money goes to pay the medical bill for the dumba** that picked it up without shootin it first! That's why you don't see rattlesnake meat very often, after they get bit the first time, most of them rattlesnake harvesters just lose interest!

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by toolman

Well he ll Earl, part of that money goes to pay the medical bill for the dumba** that picked it up without shootin it first! That's why you don't see rattlesnake meat very often, after they get bit the first time, most of them rattlesnake harvesters just lose interest!

There was a guy from Los Angeles three or four years ago, who was somewhere between Blythe and Indio looking for rattlesnakes to sell as pets. He found a mummified arm sticking out of the ground instead. Cured him of rattlesnake hunting...

The body was some little old lady who was never identified. A local Sheriff's deputy told me his best guess was that she and some old boy had been living together on the RV circuit; when she died he buried her, shed some tears, and kept right on collecting the Social Security checks being deposited in her checking account.

Originally Posted by billy

dont eat the liver of carnivores.
there is a toxic amount of vitamin A

I've heard that about polar bears, billy, but didn't know it applied to all carnivores.

[ezearln]

Because it ain't good unless you've paid a fortune for it, Earl. Some of the best advice I've ever heard is that if you're having trouble selling something, keep raising the price until some fool thinks it has to be wonderful if it costs that much.

LOL I suppose so Troy, but good Lord I can't imagine anyone thinking something is wonderful just cause of a high price, or because it's a certain designer brand. I'll admit there are some things I buy only a certain brand name of but only after experience taught me no other product would give me the same consistant quality I was seeking. Examples of that for me at least is Folger's coffee, I'll pay the lil bit extra for it because I know from one can to the next I am going to get the same deep rich coffee I perfer and have never been disappointed.

[billy]

Originally Posted by troy2000

There was a guy from Los Angeles three or four years ago, who was somewhere between Blythe and Indio looking for rattlesnakes to sell as pets. He found a mummified arm sticking out of the ground instead. Cured him of rattlesnake hunting...

The body was some little old lady who was never identified. A local Sheriff's deputy told me his best guess was that she and some old boy had been living together on the RV circuit; when she died he buried her, shed some tears, and kept right on collecting the Social Security checks being deposited in her checking account.


I've heard that about polar bears, billy, but didn't know it applied to all carnivores.

i dont know about all canivores but i have read about folks dying from sled dog liver.

i found this


The livers of certain animals, especially those adapted to polar environments, often contain amounts of vitamin A that would be toxic to humans. The first documented death due to vitamin A poisioning was Xavier Mertz, a Swiss scientist who died in January 1913 on an Antarctic expedition that had lost its food supplies and fell to eating its sled dogs. Mertz consumed lethal amounts of vitamin A by eating sled dog liver. The liver of the polar bear also has enough vitamin A to kill a human being.

[toolman]

I eaten the rare southern bald beav...uh, never mind.

[billy]

Originally Posted by toolman

I eaten the rare southern bald beav...uh, never mind.

did you get all the way to the liver?
thats what i wanna know.

c'mon cap'n tool you are among friends here.

[toolman]

Originally Posted by billy

did you get all the way to the liver?
thats what i wanna know.
c'mon cap'n tool you are among friends here.

Welp, I tried!

[ezearln]

I am always astounded by what inquiring minds want to know!

[billy]

Originally Posted by toolman

Welp, I tried!

well cap'n tool,
my mother always said.
son if you would just apply yourself.
go get em tiger!

[Lng Rng]

I think part of it is that people think an animal will taste similar to what it looks like. Or, if they can't buy it at their supermarket, they want nothing to do with it.

I hear they only sell those Beavers at select locations in Nevada.

[billy]

Originally Posted by Lng Rng

I think part of it is that people think an animal will taste similar to what it looks like. Or, if they can't buy it at their supermarket, they want nothing to do with it.

I hear they only sell those Beavers at select locations in Nevada.

maybe if i tried being a fur trapper?

[troy2000]

My youngest aunt found out what orifice a chicken lays eggs through when she was a teenybopper girl, and refused to eat any for quite a while. What's even sadder is that she was born on a farm in Missouri, like her older brothers and sisters...she was just too young to remember it when they moved to California.

[lefty o]

bald beaver is better, no fur in the way!

[Big Dog]

Grain-fed critters have a milder taste, that most folks prefer. Carnivores tend to be gamier.


Cats . . . . the 'other white meat' . . . .

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Big Dog

Grain-fed critters have a milder taste, that most folks prefer. Carnivores tend to be gamier.
Cats . . . . the 'other white meat' . . . .

I dunno about now, but forty years ago when I was in New York, some folks in Harlem referred to cats as, "roof rabbits."

I have an English translation of the utimate french cookbook. The topics are listed alphabetically, and under "Cat" it has pictures showing the difference between cat bones and rabbit bones. Seems to me that would be unnecessary, unless the authors thought someone somewhere in France might be passing off cat as rabbit...

[sfavazza]

Now that I think about it, I would eat just about anything. There isn't much that I've tried that I didn't like. Bear didn't taste very good, I hate eggplant (carnivorous eggplant XD ), and I wouldn't eat goat or dog cause I own both and they are my pals. I own a duck too but I still eat his cousins at the chinese place. There are dolphin activists who cut holes in Tuna nets to avoid catching them. Why not eat dolphins? Because they are too intelligent is the answer. Some people won't eat bunnies cause they are cute. If smart and cute are the criteria for not eating something than kids with downs syndrome should watch their backs. (I'm just kidding about eating the mentally challenged)

There is song buy a band called Reel Big Fish called Say "Ten", here's a bit of it:

poor little cow, little sheep,
little fish
how can I sleep? when carrots
are bleedin'
plants are screamin' and tomatoes cry,
you say "it's not so bad, they're only
vegetables", that's what you said
maybe i'm a murderer, but i'm hungry
and they're better off dead.

save a plant, eat a cow,
i want beef, i want it now!
i'm gonna eat it cause it's red!
i'm gonna eat it cause it's dead!
maybe i should eat it raw let the
blood run down my jaw
i'd eat people if it was legal,
i'd eat people if it was legal!

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So, I wouldn't eat people but just about anything else. My grill is waiting.
p.s. sorry about the handicapped thing again.