Howls over dog-hunting

[GGReporter]

The Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries says it is increasingly hearing complaints, often from people new to rural life, about noisy hounds straying onto their land, often followed by hunters retrieving their dogs.

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[bored2bhere]

im not surprised around here during dog season ill have a pack dogs a day running around my place

[troy2000]

Reminds of of my days as a tract superintendent. We subdivided larger lots than usual in semi-rural areas, and advertised them as horse properties. We even built fenced horse trails meandering through the neighborhoods. People bought the homes like crazy.

But if anyone had the gall to actually bring in a horse, the neighbors came crying and threatening to sue the horse owners, us, the city, and anyone else they could think of, because they had to live next door to actual horse poo and flies.

I had the occasional urge to bitch-slap some of the noisier ones, and ask them exactly what they thought "horse properties" and "rural lifestyle" had meant on all our brochures, signs and paperwork.

[bored2bhere]

your right troy they need to relize what their getting themselves into and not try to make everything their way
although I do have issues with dog hunters

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by bored2bhere

your right troy they need to relize what their getting themselves into and not try to make everything their way
although I do have issues with dog hunters

I can see where some of them could get real obnoxious, bored2bhere. But that's true of anything. You wouldn't want to hear my opinion of some of the hunters, fishermen, boaters, 4-wheelers and dirt-bikers who clutter up my particular piece of paradise...

[blaster]

same mentality of the idiots who buy next to an air port then complain about the noise

[Cyrille]

I agree with the posted answers; these people should 'look before they leap,' However I am afraid that those complantents will, in the end win out and hunting will eventually be banned in those areas. Because 'the ungreased wheel squeals the loudest.' As long as the area is quiet and no one complains about the hunters it's OK but let the chorus of complants start and guess what? NO MORE HUNTING!
When I first moved to my present homesite I could actually hunt in my backyard and the surrounding area as well as target practice, now one cannot even carry an exposed firearm for any apprecatable distence without running people inside their houses and possable questioning by the local police.

[jashoffa]

Using a dog to hunt deer in Iowa is not allowed. I find it interesting that using dogs in other states is allowed.

[Dickie d]

I live in rural Oklahoma with no animal control. Our dog is either tied up, penned or on a leash. I like to think I'm a responsible dog owner. The other day 5 pit bull mixes were on the porch scaring the bejesus out of my other half. She called the sherrif, his reply "Shoot em".

[Old Timer2]

I agree with ya'll. Dog hunters are a very obnoxious bunch. Several years ago, after we bought a piece of Paradise, and before cell phones, the dog hunters were all over the place. I think the straw that broke the camel's back, was one morning when I was going to work, there were about 8 or 9 pickups parked along the roads, with the "great white hunters" all standing by the trucks, with guns drawn,waiting for the dogs to push out the deer. As soon as I got to work, I called the game warden. The story got back that he was able to catch and arrest 4 or 5 of them. Soon afterwards, the state changed their gun hunting laws, and dogs are no longer allowed!! What a blessing. The hunter's excuses were "dogs cannot read the "no trespassing" signs. Anyway, GOOD RIDDANCE!!

[neophyte]

Having chased the 'hound' for 50yrs. Dogs don't read and breeding has them chasing out of bounds. It is unfortunate that the hunter populace doesn't accept hound hunting. Rabbits, raccoon, possum, squirrel, deer, hog, birds, fox, coyotes and the list continue. We as dog hunters are being pushed to the "Pen"
Cars, uncaring people, ignorance, will eventually push all dog hunters to the way side. What
will history say.
Yes we have the same "bad egg" hunters, we too have many more that do for others.
We, as the outdoors persons, should be more accepting; understanding, considerate, disciplined, decent. Not just the 'dog' hunter Our outdoors is at stake. Banding together educating, showing appreciation, working with the 'bad egg'. Educate the 'bad egg'; if 'bad egg' decides they don't have a place maybe 'then' they'll go away.
In the mean time, all dog hunters are not 'bad eggs'

[bored2bhere]

i have "bad eggs" all over the place they will run up my private drive way drop the dogs and have them run the deer in my private property that me and my family trie to manage
i understand that there may be dog hunters who do it correctly but i have not seen one yet around here

[Seabeescotty]

I don't have much of a dog problem where I'm located, but I do have some gun hunters who apparently think the more rounds you pop into the woods, the better your chances of hitting something. The only problem with that is a lot of us have stock on our places, and will be mighty upset if a horse or cow gets one of those stray rounds. I heard one old fella empty what sounded like a 105 howitzer. Musta been one of those elephant guns. I didn't know we had elephants out here in northeastern Okla. Scotty

[troy2000]

Originally Posted by Seabeescotty

I don't have much of a dog problem where I'm located, but I do have some gun hunters who apparently think the more rounds you pop into the woods, the better your chances of hitting something. The only problem with that is a lot of us have stock on our places, and will be mighty upset if a horse or cow gets one of those stray rounds. I heard one old fella empty what sounded like a 105 howitzer. Musta been one of those elephant guns. I didn't know we had elephants out here in northeastern Okla. Scotty

Now you know why you don't have elephants, Scotty. That ol' boy with the howitzer keeps them thinned out.

He was probably firing a .50 cal. My son's friend brought one out a year or so ago, and we took turns lying in the back of my Nissan Frontier to fire it. Every time it went off, the dust all around the pickup jumped an inch or two in the air.

[Zen900]

People are moving to the country and bringing the city with them. My favorites are the ones who buy a house on a dirt road then demand it be paved. Or the streetlight types who put up so many streetlights because they think the boogieman is in the woods. Now the country is lit up like a Walmart parking lot. I just wish they'd move back to town.

[SuckLead]

Had a customer relate a story about his dad, year after year, calling to ask for help when some of the dogs would get on his property and terrorize the sheep until the hunters got to them. He'd ask the hunters to go somewhere else, he called to complain. One year he finally sat on his back porch and shot the dogs that went after his sheep. He was arrested, but they ended up dropping the charges.

[single action]

Originally Posted by Dickie d

I live in rural Oklahoma with no animal control. Our dog is either tied up, penned or on a leash. I like to think I'm a responsible dog owner. The other day 5 pit bull mixes were on the porch scaring the bejesus out of my other half. She called the sherrif, his reply "Shoot em".

Excellent Sherrif ! need to re-elect him.
In my area people are moving in from the "big city" and immediately start trying to change this area into what they left. A few years ago I owned some property 16 miles out of town and 1 retiree from chicago moved in. Our road was dirt 1 mile long. he immediately started complaining about the dust getting into his house. When I asked him why he had built his house 30" from the road, he told me he expected it to be paved before he finished the house because he never lived anywhere they didnt pave all the roads. This is the same man who had his entire property bulldozed and then complained to the realtor that sold him the property that he had lied to him, they advertised wildlife on the property and he had never seen any! Well to make a way too long story shorter, He also complained about police patrols, shooting during hunting season, people target shooting on their own property, "something" getting into his trash cans at night, ect,ect,ect. Then to top it off, several of his buddies retired down here, and bought property on the same road. The 1 mile long road that had 2 homes on it, by the time I sold out and left, had 17.
All of his buddies that moved there had pretty much the same complaints he had. I swear, I had to move, if I would have heard the phrase "this is the way we do it in chicago" one more time, i would have jumped off a cliff. ( except for the fact that they had bulldozed the cliff) The iceing on the cake was when several of them had sons, grandsons, daughters ect, who lived "up nawth" who were having problems with the law, drugs, stealing, gangs ect. They would have them come stay with them in "the country" for awhile to get them away from all the bad influences that were causing them to misbehave. As a result, the crime rate went up and they formed little "mini gangs" until some neighbors got fed up and caught them for the law and they were sent to the big house. for rehabilitation, I'm sure. I think Zen900 will agree with me, city people need to stay in the city. I never heard one say they were happy in the country, mostly they just complained.
On the other topic, hunting with dogs, While it was traditional in this area to hunt deer with dogs, it was outlawed several years ago. It was usefull when you had large tracts of undeveloped land, But that is no longer the case around here. We still get some of the slob hunters around here that will turn dogs loose on private land to run the deer onto public land, but they are usually pretty easy to "deal" with.
I dont mind hunting rabits or squirrels with beagles ect because these animals dont range as far as deer so the dogs are much easier to control and rarely get onto property they are not supposed to be on.
Coon hunters ate night are no problem at all in my area as they will usually stop by or call before hunting an area to make sure its ok to cross your land. They have all been very courteous.