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Old 02-06-2008, 07:50 AM   #21
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At the Malls where there are signs that read "GUN SAFE ZONE" who read the signs the day that a guman decided to open up? This has happened twice and if it wasn't for one off duty cop who refused to leave his sidearm to home, more deaths would have occured.
What we, as Americans should have learned from the AWB, is that they were making firearms ILLEGAL out of pure appearance. In a Hunter Saftey class we did a demostration. We had a STOCK Mini 14, a mini 14 with bi-bod and black stock, a mini 14 with folding stock, bi-pod, scope and 30 rd mag. Even though it was the EXACT same firearm everyone said the latter two should be illegal.
We can also help ourseves by not being show offs with our firearms. We don't need to give the RAMBO Impression to the people who sit waiting for the NEXT reason to introduce a GUN CONTROL BILL. We need to show that we are responsible citizens who demand a right, the same right the Off duty cop has, to DEFEND OURSELVES and that is what the SECOND IS ABOUT.
AS Gun Owners UNITED and managed to get Jim Zumbo fired within days, we need to unite now and send a message LOUD and CLEAR that we have all of the Gun Control LAws that we need and we will NOT accept any more. During the primaries the main concerns were 1. the Economy 2. Illegal aliens we need to make it 1. Protection of the Constitution 2. Illegal Aliens 3. the economy

Get more members into your Range Clubs, volunteer for to be Hunter Saftey Instructors, get responsible visibilty for firearms, then SHOOT anyone who tries to disarm you......J/K

Here in my state, about 20 years we passed a Bill to be able to SHOOT TO KILL, TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY. When the Bill was first passed people thought the state would turn into a blood bath. It hasn't. The Law has been challenged and the fellow who shot and killed a 17 year old for breaking into his garage and stealing stuff, won his case.
The bIll was passed because EQUAL force was silly and innocent people were being raped and murdered when they could not defend themselves. The Police were usually not within a reasonable distance for adequate response time, so we pressured and succeeded into getting a law into place that would give us the protection we desire. Here in my state, it isn't just the off duty cop that may shoot you, it is any citizen of the state.

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Old 02-06-2008, 09:46 AM   #22
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I'll tell you what... my street here in Wisconsin is VERY safe... not only are my guns protecting it... but we are chock full of law enforcement officers here too.

God help the first kid who attempts a theft or a break in.

This, my friends... is a great example of "streets that ARE safe".
It sounds something like my neighborhood. Seems like half the NYPD retired to up here, and they all still have CCW permits. Good thing, too. While by Western or Southern standard we aren't out in the boonies, we're a long ways away from the main drag hereabouts. And since our district started out a century ago as a rustic vacation spot for NYC urbanites and wan't planned but just kinda growed instead, we have two distinguishing characteristics that the other side of town, a series of developments and McMansions put up as farmers sold off property, does not:

1. No two houses look even vaguely alike.
2. The roads make no sense what-so-damned-ever.

Response times for police and EMS calls have improved since the advent of GPS for cars. Before, the deputy or the trooper in his cruiser (they all cruise single up here) had to drive with one eye and read the map with the other; and even then they'd get lost two or three times trying to find the place they were looking for. Because it's a volunteer fire department and everyone who is in it lives here, we never had a problem with fire trucks not being able to find places.

So it's a good thing the retired cops have their pistols, and that the new county judge is pro-gun and reasonably liberal with CCW permits. We definitely are responsible for our own protection hereabouts!
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:16 AM   #23
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Cyrano, it seems to me... that is the last place a dazzling urbanite would want to "play". That's the good thing about most small towns... everyone pretty much knows everyone else and watches out. Strange cars... new people, etc. are noticed very quickly.

I lived in a place like that in Connecticut when I was little and we didn't even feel the need to lock the doors. I wouldn't try that now there... but I have no problem with that here. Someone is most always home... it's actually rare for us all to be gone at once. If someone were to be bold enough to try to enter... the cop next door would see them... and they would be backed out the nearest door by any variety of firearm I wish to grab. If they resisted or came armed... well, it wouldn't be pretty.
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:17 AM   #24
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Being from Texas I find much of the nonsense bandied about over ones right to self defense and possession of the tools to do it are ridiculous. There are a couple of very interesting posts today about the U.N. position that "self-Defense" is NOT a human right. I find that odd that an organization supposedly dedicated to a world of peace and cooperation. In which the rights of each person are upheld would ever take such a position. Very odd, all cultures from the days when the very first legal codes were laid down (The Code of Hamurabi) up to even the former Soviet Union have recognized the individuals right to self defense. Ignoring for a moment the Laws of Man, simply looking at nature demonstarates the makers intent that all his creation has an inherant right to self defense, each animal in creation has a defense mechanism, even plants adapt for defense against being eaten or infested by damaging organisms. Why then I ask if nature its-self permits self defense would anyone believe man is NOT so endowed?
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Old 02-06-2008, 10:43 AM   #25
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... further proof that the U.N. is a complete waste.
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Wickedness is wickedness. People are going to do evil with whatever tools they have on hand. Taking away guns from good people is a green light to every punk with a 9mm.
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Old 02-06-2008, 03:36 PM   #27
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The "geniuses" who want to ban guns should also ban axe's, hammers, knives and hey wait a minute... ban motor vehicles. More people are killed annually by vehicles than firearms. Intentional or not, it is much the same as firearms.

You ARE right... the streets are not safe.
Well if by that logic then they should also ban deep fried foods, transitive fats, tobacco, alcohol and foods which are high in sugars.

Heart disease is the #1 killer, so why not ban all that causes heart disease?
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Well if by that logic then they should also ban deep fried foods, transitive fats, tobacco, alcohol and foods which are high in sugars.
Heart disease is the #1 killer, so why not ban all that causes heart disease?
They're working on it...
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Old 02-06-2008, 07:56 PM   #29
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lol pretty soon we will be eating with a plastic spoon and card board plates lol we might hurt our selves!!!!!
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Yesterday a Verizon wireless was held up with an air soft pistol, the manager was in our local gun shop going to buy some company financed protection. They caught the kid, it is still a gun crime, he's done. This morning the Wells Fargo bank was robbed, both of these businesses are within 10 blocks of our home. Glad I'm armed. With the economy dumping on us this will increase, giving guns a worse name and bigger police budgets. Mercy.
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