[blackhawk45]

If the kids of my generation,I'm 56 years old,would have called the police, when our parents disiplined us.and the laws were the same as the ones today---our parents ,would still be serving time.---Our country needs to get back on track, and allow Parents,and Teachers to disipline the children,a good old A$$ paddlin,only hurts your feelings,for a little while,and you learn that Parents and Teachers aint to be messed with.

[andrew cochran]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

What is it with all these kids becomeing violent today ? Thats happening here too. Don't take offense but the Bible tells of this in the last days. Another sign may be ?...A.H

It could be! I believe it is.

Quote:       Originally Posted by blackhawk45

If the kids of my generation,I'm 56 years old,would have called the police, when our parents disiplined us.and the laws were the same as the ones today---our parents ,would still be serving time.---Our country needs to get back on track, and allow Parents,and Teachers to disipline the children,a good old A$$ paddlin,only hurts your feelings,for a little while,and you learn that Parents and Teachers aint to be messed with.

Amen to that!

[Deersniper]

Yes thanks to our public de-education system, parents that have to work all the time, and video games, and drugs we have lost a generation that we are going to regret losing. I talked to a former teacher who works in retail now and he said when he interviewed 8th graders they either wanted to be a drug dealer, a pimp or a gang member. That is sad.

[ArkansasHunter]

You know what ? I bet when a child is spanked it cause's a chemical release in there brains that helps in there disision makeing process in regards to right or wrong and consous. (mis spelled)
In the Bible I'm a ware of 2 scriptures in regards to this. One yall have always heard and it is Spare the rod and you'll spoil the child and the other one.
Break a reed and beat them with it, they want break.
So if our Creator says this, then it is a truth that corporal punishment is a big part of raiseing and disiplining our children to be good citicens.
I beleive that now....A.H

[PONTIACDM]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

You know what ? I bet when a child is spanked it cause's a chemical release in there brains that helps in there disision makeing process in regards to right or wrong and consous. (mis spelled) In the Bible I'm a ware of 2 scriptures in regards to this. One yall have always heard and it is Spare the rod and you'll spoil the child and the other one. Break a reed and beat them with it, they want break. So if our Creator says this, then it is a truth that corporal punishment is a big part of raiseing and disiplining our children to be good citicens. I beleive that now....A.H

+++1111 I was spanked when necessary as a child. I wouldn't have changed a thing. I've never been in trouble with the law. If I ever have children I will raise them the same way.

[ezearln]

One problem I see in this is many of the so-called "Experts" in raising children have none of their own. My Son made the unfortunate mistake of "Thinking" he was going to play tough with the old man. He came home from school and told me that "Teacher says if you spank me or hit me I should call 911, so you can't do that anymore" To say I was infuriated would be an understatement, I jerked his scrawny azz off the floor and pinned him to the wall and told him if he felt the sudden urge to call 911 to tell them to bring a body bag. I also told him even were the cops to arrest me for "Child Abuse" (Harump) that I would be out in less than 24 hours and just where did he think my FIRST stop would be?

[tlarkin]

Every generation this happens. Old people say young people are out of control and it was better in their day. This has been happening for a long time and it will never stop.

The problem isn't just one thing, it is a multi-threaded issue that can not be fixed overnight or with one or two laws, or anything like that. It is a process that their overly bureaucratic government and mass media are stopping progression. Much like our country.

[ezearln]

I agree tlarkin, the issue at hand has many facets that cannot be resolved with a law or two. Yet I disagree in that this generation of young people we are indeed seeing a disturbing increase in serious problems with these children. As my Missus is a teacher we get exposed a bit more to it than some others and I am concerned a great deal about it. We occasionally watch the Nanny with the lil Brit lady and have been surprised by the behavior tolerated by many parents these days! If I had been stupid enough to tell either my mother or father to and I quote from a child I overheard saying this to his parent "Get f'd" I'd still be in traction today! and Gawd forbid if I had said it to my Grandmother, she'd have killed me on the spot.
Granted a whole lot of issues have contributed to this and to lay blame on any one of which is foolish, but where to start is perhaps the hardest question to answer. One thing I would demand of my children is personal responsibilty and accountability for ones actions and choices.

[andrew cochran]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

You know what ? I bet when a child is spanked it cause's a chemical release in there brains that helps in there disision makeing process in regards to right or wrong and consous. (mis spelled) In the Bible I'm a ware of 2 scriptures in regards to this. One yall have always heard and it is Spare the rod and you'll spoil the child and the other one. Break a reed and beat them with it, they want break. So if our Creator says this, then it is a truth that corporal punishment is a big part of raiseing and disiplining our children to be good citicens. I beleive that now....A.H

You got it right AH!

[Cyrille]

I too was spanked as a child and not just by my parents, but uncles, teachers, aunts and Nuns also lent a "hand" when needed. I've Never been in trouble with the law and my kids neither although I only had to spank both of them just once when they were growing up. To cuss at someone given arthority over you was just askin for not just one but as many as two, three spankings!

[tlarkin]

Quote:       Originally Posted by ezearln

I agree tlarkin, the issue at hand has many facets that cannot be resolved with a law or two. Yet I disagree in that this generation of young people we are indeed seeing a disturbing increase in serious problems with these children. As my Missus is a teacher we get exposed a bit more to it than some others and I am concerned a great deal about it. We occasionally watch the Nanny with the lil Brit lady and have been surprised by the behavior tolerated by many parents these days! If I had been stupid enough to tell either my mother or father to and I quote from a child I overheard saying this to his parent "Get f'd" I'd still be in traction today! and Gawd forbid if I had said it to my Grandmother, she'd have killed me on the spot. Granted a whole lot of issues have contributed to this and to lay blame on any one of which is foolish, but where to start is perhaps the hardest question to answer. One thing I would demand of my children is personal responsibilty and accountability for ones actions and choices.

You are kind of comparing apples to oranges in some respects though. Today we have the internet, ipods, SUVs, video games, music videos, reality TV, cell phones, and everything is disposable as well.

We live in different times so of course we are going to be different. Society is different and the people who live in said society have a direct connection.

It will always be this way until we, as a species changes. Your grandmother did not grow up during our times and, yes things were way simpler back then. However, times have changed and now it is different.

We are consumers and we are taught to go out and spend our money and desire things. I agree that family values does in fact have a decent enough impact on a single person, but in the end it is not the end all be all.

[ezearln]

"You are kind of comparing apples to oranges in some respects though. Today we have the internet, ipods, SUVs, video games, music videos, reality TV, cell phones, and everything is disposable as well."

tlarkin, I admit in our current age we are deluged with instant everything and yes it is a different time. But the mere passing of the years doesn't mean such things as personal responsibility and accountability for ones own choices and deeds is somehow out of date or undesirable. The "ME" and "I" and "NOT MY FAULT" mentality is as much to blame as anything else. Also I am not so much speaking to "Family Values" as I am to personal ones, the individuals moral compass especially seems to have had a chunk of iron set next to it as so many are far far off course. This is as much true for our younger adults as it is for the children, and can be seen no matter where you go today. Somehow we have arrived at the juncture that it is wrong to spank or disipline a child to correct inappropriate behavior, but it's okay to let the kiddos watch two boneheads in the UFC beat each other stupid?

Have we strayed so far as to believe things such as Honor, Truth, Respect, honesty, Pride of Country, sacrifice, hard work, fidelity and honoring ones word are undesireable traits to possess? I for one certainly hope not.

[tlarkin]

ezearln

I agree, and wished all of that also applied to government