*Official DC Handgun Ban Thread/Supreme Court Rulings* - Page 3

patrick70 · 06-26-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyIvan

The "But Still" is in reference to there being 4 ASSHATS on the Supreme Court....

I totally agree,it's scary to think how close this was.

samuel · 06-26-2008, 10:15 AM

This is not liberal/conservative.It is a case of four justices that,instead of interperating our laws and constitution are trying their hardest to base our laws on european laws and standards.There are lots of democrats out there just as rejoiceful over this decision as I,a strong conservative,am.Any American that loves freedom must love this decision,gun owner or not. sam.

ingous · 06-26-2008, 10:21 AM

Here is a link to the assending oppinion if you are interested in reading it yourself.

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf

ingous · 06-26-2008, 10:24 AM

Here is a link to the assending oppinion if you would like to read it yourself.

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf

ingous · 06-26-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LEE3370

Well, Where do I read about it??????

I just found this:

SUPREME COURT (AP) - The District of Columbia's ban on handguns is over. The U.S. Supreme Court has struck it down by a 5-4 vote, saying Americans have a right to own guns for self-defense and hunting. It's the first definitive pronouncement on gun rights in U.S. history.

Link to the assending oppinion:
http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf

LarryO1970 · 06-26-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TXplt

This is a concrete victory. What does give me some pause is that the dissenters effectively said "we don't really care what the constitution says; we think guns are scary and should be banned." This is a bad philosophy toward liberty, and is why we must stay eternally vigilant against (in this particular case) liberal activist judges who fail to grasp that they're not God, and don't have the authority to change the law as they see fit based on how they feel about issues--that their job is solely to interpret the words of the constitution as they were intended. But I'll not let the naysayers detract from the moment.

Next, it's time to make sure we don't elect gun banners and wind up re-trying the case. Bottom line, if he/she votes for gun control, DO NOT give him/her YOUR vote.

Cheers

… They don’t CARE what the Constitution says? Tell them they can’t say that and the first thing they'll do is quote their Constitutional Rights.

Cudahogs · 06-26-2008, 10:27 AM

I'd read that it was decided by a vote of 5-4, a much narrower margin than I would have liked. Still a win for the people!
-Fred

ArkansasHunter · 06-26-2008, 10:28 AM

Does this give me the Right to wear a Stainless Steel 1911 Pistol with Pearl Grips in a dark brown holster anywhere I want to wear it ???????
On the Holster I will have inscribed on it .
My 2nd. Amendment Right !

Mad Hatter · 06-26-2008, 10:31 AM

Best news I have heard in a long time !!!

Supreme Court says Americans have right to guns - Yahoo! News

Deersniper · 06-26-2008, 10:31 AM

You can't do much more interpretation with shall not be infringed, but beware. Sarah Brady is still out there.

Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed. Sarah Brady 1994.

troy2000 · 06-26-2008, 10:35 AM

Relax, folks. There will be plenty of time to bash anti-gun people and judges later.

Right now we should be enjoying the victory, and figuring out how far it goes. I still haven't seen a transcript of the majority decision.

edit: Oops; missed seeing Ingous' link to a transcript. I guess I have some reading to do...

TXplt · 06-26-2008, 10:35 AM

One thing I did forget is that Scalia and his concurring colleagues deserve a great deal of credit for what I consider to be a well written and thoughtful opinion. It does address the question of law and case directly and head on, and, I believe, given the situtation, does hit the mark. I would have preferred an affirmation vs. limitation of rights argument, but, considering the circumstances, I think they did a pretty good job of addressing the task at hand.

If you go down to News, Troy, there's a link to the opinion directly. It's not too long and worth reading.

Hope ingous doesn't mind me plagurizing his link here (and thank you very much ingous for the link !):

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf

Cudahogs · 06-26-2008, 10:37 AM

After all the many months of waiting, it's nice to get some good news! I used to dislike all lawyers, now there are 5 that aren't all that bad!
-Fred

LarryO1970 · 06-26-2008, 10:48 AM

I am sure that Obama is crying in his Cheerio's right about now... I'd love to hear his take on this...

He can't skirt or avoid the issue now...

ArkansasHunter · 06-26-2008, 10:49 AM

How many here feel as releived as I do !!! LOL . I feel like I was just givin a Million dollars.

Larry the News Shows are already bring up Obama saying he would like all hand guns Banned.

LarryO1970 · 06-26-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

How many here feel as releived as I do !!! LOL . I feel like I was just givin a Million dollars.

God help them if the ruling had been the other way.

LarryO1970 · 06-26-2008, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

How many here feel as releived as I do !!! LOL . I feel like I was just givin a Million dollars.

Larry the News Shows are already bring up Obama saying he would like all hand guns Banned.

... even more proof he is a fool.

Pred · 06-26-2008, 10:54 AM

McCain is already calling out Obama, Chicago, on their views/laws.

mym1a · 06-26-2008, 10:58 AM

larryo is correct with his statement that child molesters have it the worst in prison, most have to go to protective seg. lethal injection would be more humane! much more humane! as for the ruling that is a common interest of all us in here it appears things worked in our favor, however I would still stay vigilant, who knows what the gun haters will pull out of their rectal cavities next?

LarryO1970 · 06-26-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mym1a

larryo is correct with his statement that child molesters have it the worst in prison, most have to go to protective seg.

... but there are times when they are around the general population in which case, they'll be killed in a matter of time. All anyone needs to do is look at past child molesters to see how long they survived in prison.

06-26-2008, 10:21 AM	#43
ingous Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MN Posts: 526	Here is a link to the assending oppinion if you are interested in reading it yourself. http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf __________________ “An armed society is a polite society.” --Robert Heinlein

06-26-2008, 10:24 AM	#44
ingous Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: MN Posts: 526	Here is a link to the assending oppinion if you would like to read it yourself. http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf __________________ “An armed society is a polite society.” --Robert Heinlein

06-26-2008, 10:35 AM	#51
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,456 Images: 9	Relax, folks. There will be plenty of time to bash anti-gun people and judges later. Right now we should be enjoying the victory, and figuring out how far it goes. I still haven't seen a transcript of the majority decision. edit: Oops; missed seeing Ingous' link to a transcript. I guess I have some reading to do... __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France Last edited by troy2000; 06-26-2008 at 10:40 AM.

06-26-2008, 10:35 AM	#52
TXplt Lost in the Ozone Again Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 2,832 Images: 4 Blog Entries: 2	One thing I did forget is that Scalia and his concurring colleagues deserve a great deal of credit for what I consider to be a well written and thoughtful opinion. It does address the question of law and case directly and head on, and, I believe, given the situtation, does hit the mark. I would have preferred an affirmation vs. limitation of rights argument, but, considering the circumstances, I think they did a pretty good job of addressing the task at hand. If you go down to News, Troy, there's a link to the opinion directly. It's not too long and worth reading. Hope ingous doesn't mind me plagurizing his link here (and thank you very much ingous for the link !): http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/HellerOpinion.pdf __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas Last edited by TXplt; 06-26-2008 at 10:39 AM.

06-26-2008, 10:48 AM	#54
LarryO1970 "Blazing Saddles" GOV Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Johnson Creek, WI Posts: 2,873	I am sure that Obama is crying in his Cheerio's right about now... I'd love to hear his take on this... He can't skirt or avoid the issue now... __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!"

06-26-2008, 10:15 AM	#42
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,087	This is not liberal/conservative.It is a case of four justices that,instead of interperating our laws and constitution are trying their hardest to base our laws on european laws and standards.There are lots of democrats out there just as rejoiceful over this decision as I,a strong conservative,am.Any American that loves freedom must love this decision,gun owner or not. sam.

06-26-2008, 10:27 AM	#47
Cudahogs Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Allis, WI Posts: 72	I'd read that it was decided by a vote of 5-4, a much narrower margin than I would have liked. Still a win for the people! -Fred

06-26-2008, 10:28 AM	#48
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	Does this give me the Right to wear a Stainless Steel 1911 Pistol with Pearl Grips in a dark brown holster anywhere I want to wear it ??????? On the Holster I will have inscribed on it . My 2nd. Amendment Right !

06-26-2008, 10:31 AM	#49
Mad Hatter Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 615	Best news I have heard in a long time !!! Supreme Court says Americans have right to guns - Yahoo! News

06-26-2008, 10:31 AM	#50
Deersniper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,687	You can't do much more interpretation with shall not be infringed, but beware. Sarah Brady is still out there. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed. Sarah Brady 1994.

06-26-2008, 10:37 AM	#53
Cudahogs Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West Allis, WI Posts: 72	After all the many months of waiting, it's nice to get some good news! I used to dislike all lawyers, now there are 5 that aren't all that bad! -Fred

06-26-2008, 10:49 AM	#55
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,699	How many here feel as releived as I do !!! LOL . I feel like I was just givin a Million dollars. Larry the News Shows are already bring up Obama saying he would like all hand guns Banned.

06-26-2008, 10:54 AM	#58
Pred Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,873 Blog Entries: 3	McCain is already calling out Obama, Chicago, on their views/laws.

06-26-2008, 10:58 AM	#59
mym1a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,313	larryo is correct with his statement that child molesters have it the worst in prison, most have to go to protective seg. lethal injection would be more humane! much more humane! as for the ruling that is a common interest of all us in here it appears things worked in our favor, however I would still stay vigilant, who knows what the gun haters will pull out of their rectal cavities next? Last edited by mym1a; 06-26-2008 at 11:04 AM.