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Old 06-26-2008, 11:05 AM   #61
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A good day indeed fellow humans with rights. Punks beware. All you congress critters who would infringe on our rights beware.
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God help them if the ruling had been the other way.
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AH, no! Not unless you're a Pimp. At least in the opinion of George Patton.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:06 AM   #64
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I'm serious about what I'm fixing to say...A proven child molester/ rapist should be put to death the day he/she is caught.
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As I sit, and breath a sigh of relief...
HOOYAH!!!!!! It's about time we see something good come out of that lousy den of thieves, and I ain't talking about the Supreme Court, I am speaking of the District of Columbia, the favorite workplace of crooks, and elitists, and it don't matter what side of the aisle they are on, they're a bunch of folks who need to go to jail, and leave the laws to honest folks. The trouble is, honest folks don't have the wherewithal to compete.
I'm celebrating this momentous occasion! Gonna set off some bing-bang-boom!!!!!!
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having worked for the prison system for almost 15 years i can tell you that they don't last long unless they have money to pay protection and even then that doesn't usualy last long.
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Deersniper ... your comment , "Thank you, founding fathers We will try to keep this republic!"

... rings true with the rest of us Patriots who live for the life of our own country.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:10 AM   #68
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having worked for the prison system for almost 15 years i can tell you that they don't last long unless they have money to pay protection and even then that doesn't usualy last long.
Why are ya'll in the DC Gun Ban decision thread talking about child molesters? I'm confused......
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:11 AM   #69
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I'm serious about what I'm fixing to say...A proven child molester/ rapist should be put to death the day he/she is caught.
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I'm very much in favor of the death penality, however do to the political climate and the appeals process, it takes years and cost millions of dollars.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:11 AM   #70
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Nope I ain't no Pimp but I sure would like to have a Stainless steel 1911 "NOW" with Pearl Grips and wear it proudly on my hip !!!!
I thank it would be perdy !!! LMAO !!!
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:12 AM   #71
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I believe people are commenting on the supremes ruling in general
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:12 AM   #72
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This is not liberal/conservative.It is a case of four justices that,instead of interperating our laws and constitution are trying their hardest to base our laws on european laws and standards.There are lots of democrats out there just as rejoiceful over this decision as I,a strong conservative,am.Any American that loves freedom must love this decision,gun owner or not. sam.
Boush! And this is true. The Constitution, generally speaking, did seem relatively clear on this point. Breyer's dissent, in particular, really sounds well...dumb: "In my view, there simply is no untouchable constitutional right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."

He's really trying to split hairs on that one. Would he prefer everyone get ARs instead? Shotguns? He had no real basis for this dissent, I think. I mean really...unloaded and disassembled or locked? How in the world does that allow for HD? Answer: it doesn't.

also: "but others in the administration feared it could lead to the undoing of other gun regulations, including a federal law restricting sales of machine guns."

Man, I hope.

Scalia also said nothing in the ruling should "cast doubt on long-standing prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons or the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings."

Well duh.

But I am very interested to hear Obama's response to this. He better smarten up and realize he'll lose the white, middle-class votes he needs if he says something stupid. And he'll deserve to.

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I want to know what Obama has to say...
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:14 AM   #74
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yes for the record im very happy the supremes ruled in our favor ! but still keep a weary eye on those who want to end our rights!
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I'm happy for the folks in DC, who can now protect themselves from the evildoers who have flocked there, that being the safest place to do honest folks harm! They'll start flocking out of there, and looking for a new hunting ground, soon. Hopefully, folks like us won't allow any more free fire zones, for the bad guys!
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I want to know what Obama has to say...
takes time larryO to come up with another believable lie ????
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:18 AM   #77
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takes time larryO to come up with another believable lie ????
His voting record is anti-gun. I can't wait to hear this excuse on his part...

WHEN he waffles... and he'll have to in order to keep voters, the people will see it and know he is an "empty suit" elitist.

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His voting record is anti-gun. I can't wait to hear this excuse on his part...

WHEN he waffles, the people will see it and know he is an "empty suit" elitist.
i'm sure is line of BS will be good!
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I'm happy for the folks in DC, who can now protect themselves from the evildoers who have flocked there, that being the safest place to do honest folks harm! They'll start flocking out of there, and looking for a new hunting ground, soon. Hopefully, folks like us won't allow any more free fire zones, for the bad guys!
Yeah, it's a great day to be an American good guy.

Bad day for a criminal, elitist, or elitist criminal.

I hope someone's keeping track of violent crime stats. It'll be interesting to show how (despite the years of rhetoric from the naysayers) you'll see crime drop as the good folks in the gun ban cities begin to get tools for their right of self-defense back, and criminals realize they can't prey on people anymore.
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Old 06-26-2008, 11:29 AM   #80
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We Won.. Sort of

Victory is rarely complete. But with the DC vs. Heller ruling, the Supreme Court enshrined into law most of what we responsible shooters wanted or realistically expected.

Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority (5-4), struck down the DC gun law as plainly unconstitutional. He and his colleagues that concurred with him, Chief Justice John Roberts and Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy and Clarence Thomas, confirmed that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right, not the collective right postulated in US Vs Miller in 1939; the hook the antigunners have been hanging their hat on for decades. The Miller ruling was demolished by Heller.

The ruling confirms the Second Amendment as codifying a pre-existing right to keep and bear arms, not the creation of such a right. The justices held that the right to keep and bear arms includes hunting and self-defense, and includes handguns as well as longarms. The tenor of the ruling is that the Constitution of the United States trumps policy and laws set down by states or municipalities.

Scalia's opinon is not unalloyed, but is reasoned. He wrote that despite the Constitution guaranteeing a right to keep and bear arms, it is still permissable to ban convicted felons, those with a history of mental illness severe enough to have required hospitalization and other risky individuals from owning guns. It also allows laws forbidding the carriage of guns in places like schools and government buildings.

From this, one may infer that systems like NICS, to verify an individual is OK to own a gun, are allowable. However, the ruling was silent on the legality of requiring licenses for particular types of guns.

An analyst for CNN, Jeffrey Toobin, was of the opinion that lower courts will be working for decades to decide what restrictions on firearms ownership are okay and which are not. He expects lawsuits will be filed challenging existing ordinances and laws; and that as existing laws are challenged, municipalities (mostly large cities) will be frantically trying to rewrite laws so as to comply with Heller while still restricting ownership of military-type firearms. (Toobin, your typical talking head, did not define what he meant by "military-type firearms." Full-autos? Civilianized military designs like the AK-47 and AR-15? True machine guns? You tell me.)

Bottom line: the Heller ruling is a kick in the crotch and a baseball bat across the chops of the gun-banners. They have had the legal underpinnings of their fascist leanings knocked out from under them. But they aren't dead yet. You can expect their activities to shift from the national stage to the state and local levels, to try and maintain restrictions like those in New Jersey, New York State, California and New York City. You can expect them to push for nonsense like microstamping and requiring all guns sold to have a spent cartridge case and spent bullet scanned in and kept on file with the FBI, the BATFE or some other government agency. You can expect them to try and get oppressive licensing requirements passed, that pay lip service to Heller but in fact ignore both it and the Second Amendment.

In short, we pro-gun types won a major victory today, one that will make our lives easier in the years to come. This ruling will go a long way toward torpedoing nonsense like McCarthy's evil H.R. 1022. It may make it easier to legally challenge horseshit like New York City's infamous Sullivan Law. But despite this victory, the war goes on.

Celebrate, but not too much. Keep after your local officials to make sure they don't pass some weasel-worded law that regulates your right to keep and bear arms away. Watch them like hawks. You can't trust them, especially the ones who've worked hand in glove with the United Nations, the Brady Bunch and their fellow-travelers before. Always remember: Constant Vigilance Is The Price Of Freedom.

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