The best set up yet YOU DECIDE

[knightRider]

So guys you know i have dsa arms building me a FAL para Tactical with the dura coat and the rail upgrade but heres my set up as far as optics and the best all around rifle for my shtf scenario TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK? as soon as my rifles done ill post pics of this set up <should be november sometime>

Dsa Fal 2000 bucks
eotech 300 bucks <--- had it awhile
eotech 3x magnifier with easy flip 450 <----just bought

so this set up all together cost me ruffly 2,750 bucks and i think it will rock harder then any other gun/set up i have !!!!

[BattleRifleG3]

My personal FAL carbine preference would be to have the long gas system for commonality and more space to hold, with the 18" barrel + any attachment. Part of the science of full power battle rifles is that 18" is the minimum reasonable length for a 7.62 NATO before your blast goes way up and your ballistics go down.

If I were going all out and getting a DSA I'd probably go for stainless too.

[knightRider]

sorry Battle rifle but i need the short barrell for running jumping dancing for hours if need !

[ArkansasHunter]

kR...again very nice !...A.H

[SilverRun]

Well, my preference for a .308 and yours are different. I bought the 18" bull barrel DPMS LR-308 and put a high power scope on it. I love it, but it is a little on the heavy side - but that is how I planed it (recoil reduced). No right or wrong way to have fun.

My DPMS M-4 is set up kinda like you are going with the FAL - I have the 16" M-4 profile barrel with an Aimpoint. I have been contemplating the 3x magnifier with the flip mount, but I cant see that much money in that little optic. I am thinking about just replacing the aimpoint with an ACOG. Have you thought about a trijicon Acog calibrated for the .308 round? That would definitely extend your range and still work for CQB.

[knightRider]

oh i am excited me and some friends are goning to test the heck out of my setup trust me!

[knightRider]

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

My personal FAL carbine preference would be to have the long gas system for commonality and more space to hold, with the 18" barrel + any attachment. Part of the science of full power battle rifles is that 18" is the minimum reasonable length for a 7.62 NATO before your blast goes way up and your ballistics go down.

If I were going all out and getting a DSA I'd probably go for stainless too.

heres the facts



Here you go...

Temp 72
Alt 5200

.................DSA SA58 16" bbl..........FN PBR XP 20" bbl
American Eagle .308Win 150gr FMJBT #AE308D
...........................2538................... ........2669
...........................2537................... ........2681
...........................2506................... ........2703
...........................2538................... ........2635
.....................Avg 2543.....................Avg 2663
....................SD......32.23................S D.......32.81
120ft/sec difference

Federal .308Win 150gr Soft Point #308A
...........................2588................... ........2724
...........................2594................... ........2741
...........................2595................... ........2729
...........................2582................... ........2736
...........................2605................... ........2726
.....................Avg 2593.....................Avg 2731
....................SD........8.54................ SD........7.07
138ft/sec difference

Barnaul .308Win 168gr FMJBT
...........................2424................... ........2554
...........................2388................... ........2515
...........................2455................... ........2507
...........................2379................... ........2505
...........................2399................... ........2518
.....................Avg 2409......................Avg 2520
....................SD......30.74................S D......19.92
111ft/sec difference

This means even that even budget .308 American Eagle FMJ is hypersonic past 700 yards from a 16" bbl FAL.

The shorter barrel really wont make that much of a difference at ranges you can hit at with a FAL.



Here is some more argument for a 16.25" medium contour fully fluted bbl.

Are Shorter Barrels More Accurate?
As a general rule, the answer is yes. A shorter barrel will be stiffer, pound for pound, since you can run a thicker contour (diameter) with the same weight. As you increase diameter, barrel rigidity rises to the 4th power of the increase. But if you lengthen a barrel, stiffness declines in proportion to the cube of the length. So a barrel that is just a few inches longer and a bit thinner can be half as rigid....

Source
Barrel FAQ -- Barrel Velocities, Lengths, Twist Rate, Contours, Cleaning, Accuracy and Ballistics for Benchrest, Hunting, Precision Shooting

[cz777]

i have mounted [mig-welded] a milled m-1 sight on a spare fal sight ramp and it works very well so you need no tools to set rear sights ! and if you any wiggle with upper /lower ,make two 3mm thick steel shims with lock claw grooves for both sides of the lower -install open system and hold back lock claw back -set in and close up -no more wiggles

[knightRider]

dsa makeing my fal trust me no wiggle