.223 rifles

[silentknight]

I am looking at buying a .223 bolt action rifle and only want to spend 500 or under. What are some good guns in this category

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[BattleRifleG3]

Hmm, good question. I'd look at Tikka, Savage, and CZ. Not sure if Remington, Winschester, and Weatherby fit that price range, but they're worth looking at. All good quality guns.

And welcome to Gunandgame! Please stick around and ask as much about guns as you like, and share your thoughts, about guns or about anything in the general discussion Gun Room.

[NRAJOE]

Savage 10FP Varmint 308 & 223 24"
Stock: Black synthetic with positive checkering, dual pillar bedding.
Magazine Capacity: 4 rounds-223 Rem., 308 Win.
Weight: 8.5 lbs.
Barrel Length: 24".
Overall Length: 44".
Caliber: 223 Rem., 308 Win.
Action: Short.
Features: New AccuTrigger™, matte blued barreled action, heavy free-floating and button-rifled barrel, with internal box magazine and third swivel stud for bipod.
Sights: Drilled and tapped for scope mounts.

$460.00

[BattleRifleG3]

That looks like an excellent choice if you're going for varminting or anything with a rested gun and extreme accuracy. Note that suggested retail is usually high and your price from a good dealer will probably be closer to $100. The rest will buy you a scope.

If you want something lighter to carry around, other Savage models might fit the bill, and many brands offer a lightweight model. We'd be happy to hear more about your goals for this rifle.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by silentknight

I am looking at buying a .223 bolt action rifle and only want to spend 500 or under. What are some good guns in this category

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Welcome to GUn & Game ! You might look at an ADL Remington 700 they tend to stay under the $500 price tag. One issue to be aware of if you reload is that remington uses a 1:14 twist on the barrel so they like 55 & 60 grain bullets rather than the heavy 100 grain.


http://www.ozarkguns.com/rifles/rem/...el_700_ADL.htm they have them for $407 each

[BattleRifleG3]

I would recommend a 1:7-1:9 twist as the heavier bullets tend to have a longer range and be more accurate. Such is used on most current military rifles in that round.

Note that if you find a price online you will have to have a dealer order it or at least take delivery, and you will pay an additional $10-20 in shipping and $20-40 in Instacheck and transfer fees. Take that into account when comparing online and catalog prices to store prices.

[silentknight]

Last night I went to my local sporting goods and held most of these rifles, but the one that felt the best was a Ruger M77. Good choice or no?

thanx for all the help

[NRAJOE]

Can't go wrong with ANY Ruger.....

[NRAJOE]

Manual:
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/PDF/E6.pdf

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/P-CategoryRiflesCBA.html



Ruger M77 MKII Bolt Action Rifle Walnut Stk
$469.99

In 1989, Ruger introduced the M77 Mark II, an evolutionary designbased on years of experience and loaded with patented features. Since then, the M77 Mark II has become a world-class leader in centerfirebolt-action rifles. It is truly an example of how innovation can blendwith proven concepts to produce a superior firearm.
One of its most popular features is the readily accessible three-position safety that allows the rifleman to lock the bolt, or to loador upload, with the safety engaged. A patented floorplate latch, housed in the trigger guard, securely holds the floor-plate to prevent the accidental dumping of cartridges, yet readily permits quick unloading of the magazine.
With its innovative one-piece bolt, Ruger has eliminated brazing in the bolt construction, improving the strength and reliability of this time-tested design. The diagonal front-screw bedding system, which pulls the action downward and back for more secure contact with the stock bedding surfaces, boasts a design so unique that it was granted a patent.

[BattleRifleG3]

If it's your favorite and fits your price range, go for it. I would not make the blanket statement that you couldn't go wrong with any Ruger though. Their semi-auto rifles, while not jamomatics, are not jamless either. BTW, the safety described above is also available on Mausers, Winchesters, and Savages.

Far as I know, there are no hidden secrets about the Ruger 77. If you like it, go for it and let us know how it treats you. You shouldn't pay more than MSRP, and will likely pay significantly less for the same model.

[NRAJOE]

Originally Posted by BattleRifleG3

I would not make the blanket statement that you couldn't go wrong with any Ruger though. Their semi-auto rifles, while not jamomatics, are not jamless either.

Sigh....kids.....

[Mandy]

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Wellcome to G&G !!!!!
Avoid the Ruger Mini 30, since this is a semiauto, it shouldn't matter in your case.

The Mini 30 is 7.62x39, the Mini14 (.223) on the other hand has a good reputation.

If you decide for a semiauto, go for the AR from one of the top manufacturers (Colt, Bush Master, DPMS, Armalite, ect..)

In bolt action, I'm biased with the Rem 700 in .308, as soon as I can, I'll get one fer sure !!

Good luck and enjoy posting !!!

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[BattleRifleG3]

Originally Posted by NRAJOE

Sigh....kids.....

Yes, kids... Who've seen a majority of Ruger's semi auto models with his own eyes. Only one of them has never jammed, GunGeek's father's Ruger P89 9mm.

[NRAJOE]

Then say that...don't use snide little comments about not making blanket statements thank you...I've been shooting longer than you are old.

I've owned over 150 firearms...how many have you owned?

I've never had one Ruger jam on me...ever...clean them right.

[Mandy]

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My buddys Mini 30 jammed a lot, and missfired more offten, he sended it back to Ruger and came back repaired and then it only missfired, no jams.

Maybe was the ammo, I don't know, or maybe was a lemmon, or worst, bad luck.

Either way, I scrapped the Mini 30 from my list !!!

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[BattleRifleG3]

I didn't mean to come accross as snide, sorry if you got that impression. I just meant to say I wouldn't agree that you COULDN'T go wrong with a Ruger. They can be good, they can be not so good. Yes I do clean my Ruger, funny thing is the jamless P89 I fired was the most seldom cleaned of all the Ruger's I've fired.

I really have a cow with the company, at least in the past. Ruger furthered the idea that military semi autos shouldn't be in the hands of civilians. Ruger even lobbied for the AWB, in order to corner the market with a fixed version of his Mini-14.

I'll reserve judgement now that they are in new hands. Meanwhile a PC-40 carbine is on my want list.

Originally Posted by NRAJOE

Sigh....kids.....

he's holding a grudge over their involvement with the Assault Weapon Ban Joe (Banjo) :insane:

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15693 (Did Ruger more than support the AWB?)

[silentknight]

I looked at a Tikka T3 last night and couldn't believe how noce it felt. Thats the one I'll probably end up getting

[NRAJOE]

How much?

[BattleRifleG3]

I held a Tikka with a varmint stock. It looked absolutely awesome and seems as though it would fit many hands very well. My hands seem to be wierd, because it actually wasn't comfortable to me. A thick, round, regular stock seems to be what works for me.