Browning Hi Power vs Beretta/Taurus Full Size vs other hi-cap 9mms

BattleRifleG3 · 06-15-2003, 09:31 PM

I'm considering a 9mm pistol for primarily target use, since I'm not a fan of 9mm's mild power.

Wondered what the best deal was on hi-cap (ie 15+, up to 30rd for some) full size 9mm pistols. Am NOT considering Ruger, Glock, or S&W pistols.

Arcus Hi-Powers are $220 dealer cost at AIM. I could probably snag a Beretta/Taurus for $300ish used. I dunno about others. I wondered if Beretta might be a better choice due to US mil interchangeability if SHTF. But Arcus Hi-Powers are well priced and well rated.

Any Hi-Power fans or any reasons for one over the other? Or pistols I forgot? Already remembered the CZs.

PAPA G · 06-15-2003, 10:33 PM

Hi-Point that is

NRAJOE · 06-15-2003, 11:25 PM

Hi-Points....snicker, snicker, guffaw!

BattleRifleG3 · 06-15-2003, 11:53 PM

I pee on all pistols made by Hi-Point. Carbines are Ok, but I pee on all such pistols.

Saw some well priced Taurus and HP mags today online...

oneastrix · 06-16-2003, 08:26 AM

The Browning Hi-Poyer is an excellent gun, as are both the Beretta and Taurus 92's. You can't go wrong with any of them.

06-16-2003, 08:55 PM

Browning Hi Powers are generally well thought of, as are Berettas...I'm not a fan of Tauri (Tauruses). 30 round mags are commonly available for the Browning

hkpete · 06-26-2003, 10:52 AM

I would say the Browning Hi Power, probably because that was my issue sidearm and I have little experience with the 92. The Hi Power has great pointability, it seems to fir most hands well. I also like the locking lug feature. Perhaps the only downside is if you aren't restricted to 10 rnd mags then the Hi Power only holds 13 in the mag, I don't recommend putting a round in the chamber as well.

Also, do you want double or single action? The Hi Power is single action, so it can be carried safely.

Calvin · 06-26-2003, 11:37 AM

As you are well aware of, I like the Taurus handguns. The warranty is the best in the buisness. I have never had any trouble with any of mine, either. You can carry cocked-and-locked or hammer down on a live round. I have the 92 and 100 seires pistols and have never had a problem with them. They are plenty accurate and cost 1/2 what a Beretta does.
The Browning is a good gun, too. Kinda costly these days, but worth the money.
I despise Berettas, though. Bought one back in '91 and had all kinds of trouble with it. Sent it back twice and was told it was my fault. The slide cracked behind the extractor groove after shooting 200 rounds of Winchester 115-grain FMJ ammo through it. They told me I was using the wrong ammo and I had to pay to have the slide replaced. Got it back and the same thing happened again, only I was using Federal 124-grain FMJ ammo. They said the same thing, so I had it fixed and sold the stupid thing. Bought the PT92 and never looked back....

BattleRifleG3 · 06-26-2003, 12:22 PM

Single action is good, SA/DA is ok, DAO is no good (strikers not included).

BattleRifleG3 · 06-26-2003, 08:18 PM

Oh and Pete, you can get hi-capacity mags for the hi-power out the wazoo. Like up to 30rd. In fact, that's an attractive feature of the Hi-Power.

hkpete · 06-26-2003, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BattleRifleG3
Oh and Pete, you can get hi-capacity mags for the hi-power out the wazoo. Like up to 30rd.

30 rnd?

I've never heard of anything like that for it! Where could I get one from?

BattleRifleG3 · 06-26-2003, 11:03 PM

try www.cdnninvestments.com
www.cheaperthandirt.com

and others.

MikeC · 06-27-2003, 01:12 AM

The BHP is a great gun. Long service record. I do not think the Beretta will have the same service record. Have you looked at the CZ-75B? Not much $$ but a great gun.

hkpete · 06-27-2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BattleRifleG3
try www.cdnninvestments.com

Cool, never knew such a thing existed! Not very practical though, but I would still have one for the sake of it! The cheap price concerns me too.

Jesse · 07-02-2003, 03:03 PM

I own a Taurus P-92 pre decocker. I had it fitted with a Federal Arms Barrel. It shoots very well. Beretta Hi-Caps will not fit a Taurus. The mag notch is not large enough, it can be modified.

A Browning Hi-power is a fine pistol. Get your factory mags now (FN), they are becoming scarce. KRD Mags (CDNN) are good also.

Jesse · 01-16-2004, 08:13 PM

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/TaurusPT92.htm

Stephen has an excellent article on the Taurus PT-92.

I'll put my PT-92 pics up soon...

FEG · 01-17-2004, 12:30 AM

The CZ 75/85 series are the best pistols in this class. I could amplify, but I suggest that you just CZech out my internet home:

http://pub105.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792

Stephen A. Camp · 01-17-2004, 12:46 AM

Hello. Some of these links might be of use:

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/H...Federal115.htm

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Accuracy.htm

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/TaurusPT92.htm

http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ75.htm

Best.

FEG · 01-17-2004, 11:32 AM

To be fair, I would have recommended the Hi-Power as well, but price seemed to be an issue.

Doglips · 01-17-2004, 03:14 PM

I have the Taurus P99 (the 92 with adjustable sights).....30 rd mags $9 and hi-cap mags plentafull....shoots well...even with my reloads....no problems so far and have about 500 rounds through it.....of course as the Hi-Point rep on this board...I got to mention a $99 9mm for plinking beats spending $$$$ on one.

06-15-2003, 09:31 PM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Browning Hi Power vs Beretta/Taurus Full Size vs other hi-cap 9mms I'm considering a 9mm pistol for primarily target use, since I'm not a fan of 9mm's mild power. Wondered what the best deal was on hi-cap (ie 15+, up to 30rd for some) full size 9mm pistols. Am NOT considering Ruger, Glock, or S&W pistols. Arcus Hi-Powers are $220 dealer cost at AIM. I could probably snag a Beretta/Taurus for $300ish used. I dunno about others. I wondered if Beretta might be a better choice due to US mil interchangeability if SHTF. But Arcus Hi-Powers are well priced and well rated. Any Hi-Power fans or any reasons for one over the other? Or pistols I forgot? Already remembered the CZs. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-15-2003, 10:33 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	GET THE POINT??? Hi-Point that is

06-15-2003, 11:25 PM	#3
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,043 Images: 3	Hi-Points....snicker, snicker, guffaw! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

06-15-2003, 11:53 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I pee on all pistols made by Hi-Point. Carbines are Ok, but I pee on all such pistols. Saw some well priced Taurus and HP mags today online... __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-16-2003, 08:26 AM	#5
oneastrix Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	The Browning Hi-Poyer is an excellent gun, as are both the Beretta and Taurus 92's. You can't go wrong with any of them. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

06-16-2003, 08:55 PM	#6
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Browning Hi Powers are generally well thought of, as are Berettas...I'm not a fan of Tauri (Tauruses). 30 round mags are commonly available for the Browning

06-26-2003, 10:52 AM	#7
hkpete Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Columbus, Ohio, USA, formerly UK Posts: 79	I would say the Browning Hi Power, probably because that was my issue sidearm and I have little experience with the 92. The Hi Power has great pointability, it seems to fir most hands well. I also like the locking lug feature. Perhaps the only downside is if you aren't restricted to 10 rnd mags then the Hi Power only holds 13 in the mag, I don't recommend putting a round in the chamber as well. Also, do you want double or single action? The Hi Power is single action, so it can be carried safely. __________________ British Army 1997 - 2003

06-26-2003, 11:37 AM	#8
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,995	As you are well aware of, I like the Taurus handguns. The warranty is the best in the buisness. I have never had any trouble with any of mine, either. You can carry cocked-and-locked or hammer down on a live round. I have the 92 and 100 seires pistols and have never had a problem with them. They are plenty accurate and cost 1/2 what a Beretta does. The Browning is a good gun, too. Kinda costly these days, but worth the money. I despise Berettas, though. Bought one back in '91 and had all kinds of trouble with it. Sent it back twice and was told it was my fault. The slide cracked behind the extractor groove after shooting 200 rounds of Winchester 115-grain FMJ ammo through it. They told me I was using the wrong ammo and I had to pay to have the slide replaced. Got it back and the same thing happened again, only I was using Federal 124-grain FMJ ammo. They said the same thing, so I had it fixed and sold the stupid thing. Bought the PT92 and never looked back.... __________________ I've gone to look for myself. If I should return before I get back, please ask me to wait.

06-26-2003, 12:22 PM	#9
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Single action is good, SA/DA is ok, DAO is no good (strikers not included). __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-26-2003, 08:18 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Oh and Pete, you can get hi-capacity mags for the hi-power out the wazoo. Like up to 30rd. In fact, that's an attractive feature of the Hi-Power. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-26-2003, 11:03 PM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	try www.cdnninvestments.com www.cheaperthandirt.com and others. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

06-27-2003, 01:12 AM	#13
MikeC Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 96	The BHP is a great gun. Long service record. I do not think the Beretta will have the same service record. Have you looked at the CZ-75B? Not much $$ but a great gun.

07-02-2003, 03:03 PM	#15
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,945 Images: 2	I own a Taurus P-92 pre decocker. I had it fitted with a Federal Arms Barrel. It shoots very well. Beretta Hi-Caps will not fit a Taurus. The mag notch is not large enough, it can be modified. A Browning Hi-power is a fine pistol. Get your factory mags now (FN), they are becoming scarce. KRD Mags (CDNN) are good also. __________________ Jesse www.gunandgame.com

01-16-2004, 08:13 PM	#16
Jesse Administrator Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,945 Images: 2	http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/TaurusPT92.htm Stephen has an excellent article on the Taurus PT-92. I'll put my PT-92 pics up soon... __________________ Jesse www.gunandgame.com

01-17-2004, 12:30 AM	#17
FEG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Behind the Iron Curtain Posts: 517	The CZ 75/85 series are the best pistols in this class. I could amplify, but I suggest that you just CZech out my internet home: http://pub105.ezboard.com/bczechpistols82792 __________________ WARNING: CZs MAY BE HABIT-FORMING (Consult a doctor if nursing or pregnant).

01-17-2004, 12:46 AM	#18
Stephen A. Camp Guest Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 229	Hello. Some of these links might be of use: http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/H...Federal115.htm http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Accuracy.htm http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/TaurusPT92.htm http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/CZ75.htm Best. __________________ Please visit www.hipowersandhandguns.com.

01-17-2004, 11:32 AM	#19
FEG Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Behind the Iron Curtain Posts: 517	To be fair, I would have recommended the Hi-Power as well, but price seemed to be an issue. __________________ WARNING: CZs MAY BE HABIT-FORMING (Consult a doctor if nursing or pregnant).

01-17-2004, 03:14 PM	#20
Doglips Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 9,089	I have the Taurus P99 (the 92 with adjustable sights).....30 rd mags $9 and hi-cap mags plentafull....shoots well...even with my reloads....no problems so far and have about 500 rounds through it.....of course as the Hi-Point rep on this board...I got to mention a $99 9mm for plinking beats spending $$$$ on one.