not long ago in the glock forum the 380 was called out saying it wouldn't penetrate a coke can rockman quickly disproved this myth. but i took it a step further and wrapped the can 3 times in a old denim shirt.
the bullet penetrated 3 layers of denim and 1 layer of aluminum.
i was shooting magteck hollow points at 30 feet
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Why is everyone dismissing the .380? It's what James Bond uses to blow up gas tanks, sniper shoot a guy 300 ft away, and it never runs out!
Seriously, the .380 is a 9mm just 2mm shorter and the bullet is a few grains lighter. I just don't get the mentality of "unless it's a magnum or .45, it can't do any damage"
If there is powder to be ignited, it will do damage.
Given it was a hollow point, I wouldn't expect it to exit. Also, what size can? They can go anywhere from 12oz to 2 liters.
At these low velocities of maybe 800 fps, or even slower in a short barrel such as 380's have, a hollow point will not act much differently than a round nose.
To get a hollow point to do a dramatic expansion, you need to have some significant velocity -- which the 380 cannot provide.
My wife has a 38 Special +P. This is pretty marginal, to be sure, but beyond anything a 380 can provide.
Why is everyone dismissing the .380? It's what James Bond uses to blow up gas tanks, sniper shoot a guy 300 ft away, and it never runs out!
Seriously, the .380 is a 9mm just 2mm shorter and the bullet is a few grains lighter. I just don't get the mentality of "unless it's a magnum or .45, it can't do any damage"
If there is powder to be ignited, it will do damage.
I was certainly not dismissing the .380. I was just wondering how the test would have come out with a different round. I have already read that the penetration is much greater with the FMJ than the hollow point but if someone does the test then this is proof in this discussion.
Why is everyone dismissing the .380? It's what James Bond uses to blow up gas tanks, sniper shoot a guy 300 ft away, and it never runs out!
Seriously, the .380 is a 9mm just 2mm shorter and the bullet is a few grains lighter. I just don't get the mentality of "unless it's a magnum or .45, it can't do any damage"
If there is powder to be ignited, it will do damage.
i don't dismiss the 380 i Carry one every day
i will see what a fmj will do im kinda curious my self
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At these low velocities of maybe 800 fps, or even slower in a short barrel such as 380's have, a hollow point will not act much differently than a round nose.
To get a hollow point to do a dramatic expansion, you need to have some significant velocity -- which the 380 cannot provide.
My wife has a 38 Special +P. This is pretty marginal, to be sure, but beyond anything a 380 can provide.
Funny I never thought of the .38 spcl as marginal, as the standard .38 and the .380 I load for and I use Bullseye for both and can tell you with an 88grn bullet out of a .380 with 3grn of bullseye it ain't going to bounce off your noggin or chest at 30' .
At these low velocities of maybe 800 fps, or even slower in a short barrel such as 380's have, a hollow point will not act much differently than a round nose...
At these low velocities of maybe 800 fps, or even slower in a short barrel such as 380's have, a hollow point will not act much differently than a round nose.
To get a hollow point to do a dramatic expansion, you need to have some significant velocity -- which the 380 cannot provide.
My wife has a 38 Special +P. This is pretty marginal, to be sure, but beyond anything a 380 can provide.
Your point WAS true concerning HP ammo. However, ammo makers have developed several types of HP bullets that are designed to be used in short barreled guns with smaller caliber, 'not as fast' velocitiy guns, that give good penetration and expansion. They're not cheap, but how much is your life worth.
While fancy bullets are no replacement for lrger calibers, they do make the playing field more level for those who wish to utilize an easier to carry firearm for defence.
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not long ago in the glock forum the 380 was called out saying it wouldn't penetrate a coke can rockman quickly disproved this myth. but i took it a step further and wrapped the can 3 times in a old denim shirt.
the bullet penetrated 3 layers of denim and 1 layer of aluminum.
i was shooting magteck hollow points at 30 feet
Maybe true at 30 feet.
But in one's face these are going straight thru.
Buffalo Bore: 380 ACP +P 95 grain 1125/267 JHP #27D/20
Corbon: 380 Auto +P 90 grain 1050/220 fps JHP #SD38090-20
Hornady: 380 Auto 90 grain XTP 1000/200 JHP #90102
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and i still carry it in my truck everywhere i go
