22 WMR Pistols

BattleRifleG3 · 10-18-2003, 01:05 AM

I understand that 22 WMR is much more powerful than 22 LR for protection, and I realized I don't see too many auto pistols in that caliber, only revolvers. All I know of is the Grendel, which used a pretty hefty hi cap magazine before the ban. They had a carbine that used the same one. Any other 22 WMR autos aout there?

In rifles all I know of are the 10/22 and Remington 597.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-18-2003, 01:18 AM

Welp, apparently Mossberg and Marlin make/made rifles and AMT made huge pistols in that caliber. But nothing CCWish.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-18-2003, 01:55 AM

H&R too made one. And Marlin's seems to be discontinued.

10-18-2003, 06:44 AM

Taurus makes an 8 shot revolver..American Derringer makes a double action derringer copy of the old High Standard DM-101

Big Dog · 10-18-2003, 07:40 AM

The AMT Automag II can still be found, and was available in a shorter 4" barrel version.
Volquartsen makes an abominably expensive semi-auto target pistol (the Cheetah, IIRC) in the .22WMR caliber.

10-18-2003, 07:45 AM

http://www.volquartsen.com/index5.htm

10-18-2003, 07:50 AM

sorry about that..here y'all go

http://www.volquartsen.com/default.a...%2DAuto+Pistol

jerry · 10-18-2003, 07:59 AM

I could be wrong, but I'm thinking with the shorter barrels common on most autoloading pistols there would be a point of diminishing returns on velocity. Your not gaining a whole lot from a lengthy barrel 6" or more revolver over the standard .22 LR. The 22 MAG shines it's best in a rifle. If the couple extra hundred ft per sec is wanted in a carry gun for rimfire the derringer type fits the bill for right now.

10-21-2003, 07:35 PM

I have an old High Standard double action .22 magnum derringer..for protection from water moccassins when I go fishing...obviously loaded with shotshells

BattleRifleG3 · 10-21-2003, 07:37 PM

Does it have much power? I have a friend who said he shot a rat with 22 rat shot and it looked at him, shook the pellts off of his fur, and snickered at him.

10-21-2003, 07:39 PM

.22 magnum ratshot ?

BattleRifleG3 · 10-21-2003, 07:41 PM

No, 22LR

10-21-2003, 07:46 PM

I really don't know..most .22 magnum ammunition is made for rifles so a slower burning gunpowder tends to be used...the result is is I get alot of muzzle flash because the unburnt gunpowder is still burning after it leaves my muzzle...and it is a sharp crack like a .223 instead of a gentle boom like a .45ACP

BattleRifleG3 · 10-21-2003, 07:50 PM

I could imagine a nice target pistol in 22 WMR, too bad they're not made except 10/22 versions.

10-21-2003, 07:55 PM

the .22 magnum round is too long and narrow for reliably cycling in an auto...I think it is a better revolver round

10-21-2003, 08:08 PM

it has a lot to recommend itself in a revolver...22 magnum hollowpoints cost typically half what other premium centerfire hollowpoints costs and it takes up alot less space (if you are on the move)..in the case of a misfire (dud..not squib) you just squeeze the trigger again..doesn't sound like it has a lot going for it but I think everyone could use a good .22 magnum or even .17 hummer

DANA · 10-22-2003, 08:07 AM

I HAVE A SAVAGE 502F BOLT ACTION TARGET PISTOL IN 22WMR

DANA

new52 · 11-04-2003, 10:12 PM

I know this topic is a little old, but a couple of months ago,a man here in NC stopped a purse snatcher with a AMT or NAA semi auto 22 WMR.

BattleRifleG3 · 11-04-2003, 10:27 PM

Topics are never too old to continue here. I've been told that 22 WMR is not a bad round for personal defense. Of course others are far better, but it's saved a life or two in its day.
I think it should be chambered in larger pistols than tiny NAA snubbies and smaller than target revolvers.

10-18-2003, 01:05 AM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	22 WMR Pistols I understand that 22 WMR is much more powerful than 22 LR for protection, and I realized I don't see too many auto pistols in that caliber, only revolvers. All I know of is the Grendel, which used a pretty hefty hi cap magazine before the ban. They had a carbine that used the same one. Any other 22 WMR autos aout there? In rifles all I know of are the 10/22 and Remington 597. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-18-2003, 01:18 AM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Welp, apparently Mossberg and Marlin make/made rifles and AMT made huge pistols in that caliber. But nothing CCWish. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-18-2003, 01:55 AM	#3
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	H&R too made one. And Marlin's seems to be discontinued. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-18-2003, 07:40 AM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	The AMT Automag II can still be found, and was available in a shorter 4" barrel version. Volquartsen makes an abominably expensive semi-auto target pistol (the Cheetah, IIRC) in the .22WMR caliber. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-18-2003, 07:59 AM	#8
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,870 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	I could be wrong, but I'm thinking with the shorter barrels common on most autoloading pistols there would be a point of diminishing returns on velocity. Your not gaining a whole lot from a lengthy barrel 6" or more revolver over the standard .22 LR. The 22 MAG shines it's best in a rifle. If the couple extra hundred ft per sec is wanted in a carry gun for rimfire the derringer type fits the bill for right now. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

10-18-2003, 06:44 AM	#4
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Taurus makes an 8 shot revolver..American Derringer makes a double action derringer copy of the old High Standard DM-101

10-18-2003, 07:45 AM	#6
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.volquartsen.com/index5.htm

10-18-2003, 07:50 AM	#7
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	sorry about that..here y'all go http://www.volquartsen.com/default.a...%2DAuto+Pistol

10-21-2003, 07:35 PM	#9
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I have an old High Standard double action .22 magnum derringer..for protection from water moccassins when I go fishing...obviously loaded with shotshells

10-21-2003, 07:37 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Does it have much power? I have a friend who said he shot a rat with 22 rat shot and it looked at him, shook the pellts off of his fur, and snickered at him. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-21-2003, 07:39 PM	#11
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	.22 magnum ratshot ?

10-21-2003, 07:41 PM	#12
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	No, 22LR __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-21-2003, 07:46 PM	#13
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I really don't know..most .22 magnum ammunition is made for rifles so a slower burning gunpowder tends to be used...the result is is I get alot of muzzle flash because the unburnt gunpowder is still burning after it leaves my muzzle...and it is a sharp crack like a .223 instead of a gentle boom like a .45ACP

10-21-2003, 07:50 PM	#14
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I could imagine a nice target pistol in 22 WMR, too bad they're not made except 10/22 versions. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-21-2003, 07:55 PM	#15
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	the .22 magnum round is too long and narrow for reliably cycling in an auto...I think it is a better revolver round

10-21-2003, 08:08 PM	#16
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	it has a lot to recommend itself in a revolver...22 magnum hollowpoints cost typically half what other premium centerfire hollowpoints costs and it takes up alot less space (if you are on the move)..in the case of a misfire (dud..not squib) you just squeeze the trigger again..doesn't sound like it has a lot going for it but I think everyone could use a good .22 magnum or even .17 hummer

10-22-2003, 08:07 AM	#17
DANA Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: WAITSFIELD VERMONT Posts: 1,595	I HAVE A SAVAGE 502F BOLT ACTION TARGET PISTOL IN 22WMR DANA

11-04-2003, 10:12 PM	#18
new52 Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NC Posts: 32	I know this topic is a little old, but a couple of months ago,a man here in NC stopped a purse snatcher with a AMT or NAA semi auto 22 WMR. __________________ Matt Thomas Jefferson: "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

11-04-2003, 10:27 PM	#19
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Topics are never too old to continue here. I've been told that 22 WMR is not a bad round for personal defense. Of course others are far better, but it's saved a life or two in its day. I think it should be chambered in larger pistols than tiny NAA snubbies and smaller than target revolvers. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf