45 Colt / 410 Shot / 454 Casull - Why not interchangeable 3 ways? - Page 2

BattleRifleG3 · 03-22-2008, 03:35 PM

The high velocity when hitting a forcing cone is a good point. However, the S&W 460 uses gain rifling, where it starts out straight and then starts to spin and increases twist. Suppose that's in order to keep the 454 Casull rounds from doing that in the longer chamber? And if so, would that possibly be a solution for a 410 version?

Of course with all the wadding typically in shotshells, a 410 short that's the length of the 460 Smith may be the way to go. Perhaps even make a 460 shot shell that's more than just rat shot, and that's loaded somewhere in between 460 and 410 pressures, whatever works best. Perhaps even design it not to spread too far due to the rifling.

I thought a while back that a levergun chambered for 410 and a similar length rifle cartridge would be great, and would also be able to take 454 or even just 45 Colt. But the practicality of the 410 in a heavy duty long gun that can also take 45 Colt isn't so much.

samuel · 03-22-2008, 07:24 PM

I believe a Taurus has a choke that tames the spread on shot,seems like I read about it.As I recall they fired the .45 Colt through it and it didnt blow up.I'll try to find the article.Hope someone else knows about it. sam.

alaskamonte · 03-22-2008, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by samuel

I believe a Taurus has a choke that tames the spread on shot,seems like I read about it.As I recall they fired the .45 Colt through it and it didnt blow up.I'll try to find the article.Hope someone else knows about it. sam.

No choke, just rifling...got one right here in the shop.

TXplt · 03-22-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alaskamonte

No choke, just rifling...got one right here in the shop.

Have 2 -- 3" bbl and 2 1/2" chamber. The shot spreads out quite rapidly -- covers silohette at about 30', maybe a little less. Buckshot 1 to 1.5 feet between pellets at 15 yds.

Mine shoots .45 colt pretty accurately -- 3" at 15 yds. Doesn't strike me as a strong gun like a Ruger hence the aversion to high pressure 45 colts.

03-22-2008, 03:35 PM	#21
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	The high velocity when hitting a forcing cone is a good point. However, the S&W 460 uses gain rifling, where it starts out straight and then starts to spin and increases twist. Suppose that's in order to keep the 454 Casull rounds from doing that in the longer chamber? And if so, would that possibly be a solution for a 410 version? Of course with all the wadding typically in shotshells, a 410 short that's the length of the 460 Smith may be the way to go. Perhaps even make a 460 shot shell that's more than just rat shot, and that's loaded somewhere in between 460 and 410 pressures, whatever works best. Perhaps even design it not to spread too far due to the rifling. I thought a while back that a levergun chambered for 410 and a similar length rifle cartridge would be great, and would also be able to take 454 or even just 45 Colt. But the practicality of the 410 in a heavy duty long gun that can also take 45 Colt isn't so much. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

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03-22-2008, 07:24 PM	#22
samuel Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 5,050 Trader Rating: (0)	I believe a Taurus has a choke that tames the spread on shot,seems like I read about it.As I recall they fired the .45 Colt through it and it didnt blow up.I'll try to find the article.Hope someone else knows about it. sam.