Desert Eagle - Page 2

ash · 11-03-2005, 06:38 PM

Only if it's an original IMI model however the Baby desert eagle and the SP21 are great guns.

dave375hh · 11-04-2005, 08:21 AM

I have to say no to the Desert Eagles for two reasons.
1. Can't shoot lead bullets as they plug up the gas piston(also voids the warrantee)

2. If I want to lift weights dumbells are cheaper!
I've shot a .44 and a .50AE DE and they shoot really well, but darn they're heavy.

Outriderdark · 11-04-2005, 09:48 AM

My local guy has a used Magnum Research .357 right now for 560 or so. I was tempted but I know I'd regret it in the end and sell it at a loss. It's huuuuuuge.

grasshopper2 · 11-04-2005, 11:21 AM

I voted yes. I had to have one. I bought mine as a jam-o-matic from a dealer. The guy that sold it to him couldn't figure out why it was jamming so much after 2000 rounds. The dealer just wanted to get rid of the thing and I bought it for 550 dollars. nice weapon. Here was the problem. The main spring (recoil spring) needs to be replaced often and you have to keep the thing CLEAN! I spent 35 dollars on a cleaning tool a spring kit and put around 3 hours into steam cleaning it and scrubbing the gas system and now it shoots like it is new out of the box. If I HAD to take pistol to take care of business in a time of crisis I would still grab my Colt .45 Night Commander 1911 first but if i had to shoot through a few car doors a few walls or thick clothing, say like a thick uniform or web belt I'd have to go with the eagle hands down. Mine kicks like a .380 too. I can hit moving targerts pretty good with it and it scairs the be-jesus out of the weenies at the range when they hear it next to them in the indoor range. :target:

grasshopper2 · 11-04-2005, 11:29 AM

http://www.zvis.com/dep/depfaq.shtml

Here is a great sight of troubleshooting a DE. If you have any doubts about purchasing that little pistol check out the troubleshooting section of this sight. It has diagrams and articles about all sorts of problems you might run into. My guess is that the DE for sale is a Mk.vll. Lotts of problems if you don't know them well. I'd offer him 500 for it and see if he bites!

Charlie101 · 11-04-2005, 12:10 PM

I voted yes because i think it is a novelty just to say, "Yea, I got a DESERT EAGLE 50, Any Questions?" As far as a practical I'll just take a Glock 22. The DE is just cool I think. :flame:

11-04-2005, 05:44 PM

I was really tempted..tiger striped titanium plated .50 Action Express :target: I still might buy it

olaftheproud · 11-05-2005, 11:32 AM

I voted yes the 50 ae has a flater trajactory the a 357 . And the knoeledge that dureing desert storm the isrealy army infatry were hand depelted uranime clips used to take out a tank brings me some joy. I would buy one but I know my dad is hard up for cash and will soon sell his to my. But iam huge so the wight is nothing. My wife jokes that my 45 1911 looks like a toy in my hands.

11-05-2005, 01:30 PM

.50AE Desert Eagle Pistol

$1,749.00

Each titanium gold Desert Eagle .50AE pistol with the tiger stripes is different. With no two the exact same, since each ones finish is hand completed.

With the type of mask that is used to complete this finish, we can only offer it on the .50AE pistols. The .44 and .357 pistols have flutes on either side of the barrels. With the flutes the mask does not adhere properly and does not give a clean finish. (It would look more like fish striping than tiger striping!)

Product Code: DE50TG-TS

11-05-2005, 08:03 PM

Although an American idea, the "Desert Eagle" was developed in Israel by the IMI (Israel Military Industries) in the early 1980s. The first Desert Eagles were manufactured in Israel and started appearing on gun dealers' shelves in the US around 1985. Following a problem in meeting demand for the pistols in 1992 (and probably fearful of the prospect of government import limitations), Magnum Research started assembling parts of the gun in the US and currently is working toward full assembly and possibly manufacture of the guns stateside.

Given the fact that the IMI is best known for the Uzi series of submachine guns and the Galil rifles, it isn't surprising that the Desert Eagle departs radically from many other semiauto pistol designs, though the exterior belays this. The basic layout is like that of most other modern semiauto pistols (with the magazine release on the side of the grip, slide release on the left side of the frame, and a thumb-activated slide safety).

Internally things are different. The pistol is gas-operated with a system that is more like a rifle than the delayed blow-back systems used with most other semiauto hand guns. The gas system employs a fixed, shrouded barrel which stays in position on the frame during firing, with gas coming up a port just ahead of the chamber to operate a three-lug rotating bolt that rides in the slide assembly. The fixed barrel gives the gun a lot of potential accuracy, a potential realized with most of these pistols when fired with quality ammunition.

In addition to .357 Magnum, .41 AE, .41 Magnum, and .44 Magnum chamberings, the Desert Eagle is also available chambered for the .50 AE (Action Express).

The .50 AE uses a rebated cartridge head of 0.514 inch - the same dimension as the .44 Magnum rim. This made it practical to create a cartridge with a .50-caliber bullet without necessitating the production of a new slide assemble or bolt. The same slide assembly created for the .44 Magnum fits with the .50 AE. All that's changed is the barrel and a few other odds and ends of parts.

The .50 AE (also known as the .50 Magnum) is currently available from CCI and IMI with the latter ammunition being imported into the US by Magnum Research under the "Samson Ultra" trademark. The bullets with this cartridge are generally around 300 grains and have a muzzle velocity of around 1,380 feet per second (with a 6-inch barrel). This gives the bullet 1,260-plus foot pounds of energy, placing the cartridge well above the .44 Magnum in terms of power.

While the hammering of the shooter by a cartridge like the .50 Magnum can be awesome, the weight and gas operation of the Desert Eagle does a good job of reducing this kick, making it considerably less than might be experienced with a revolver chambered for the .44 Magnum. Muzzle blast and flash from the .50 Magnum is also extreme; for this reason it is best employed with a longer barrel whenever this is an option.

Unlike most other Desert Eagle pistols, the .50 Magnum models have a contoured barrel with an integral scope mount grooved into its top. There are currently three barrel lengths in all chamberings available for the Desert Eagle: 6, 10, and 14 inches long; earlier models also were available with an 8-inch barrel, but this length has since been discontinued. At the time of this writing, barrels with Mag-na-porting compensation vents are also available to cut recoil to even more manageable amounts.

When the various grips, barrel lengths, finishes, and chamberings available for the Desert Eagle are taken into consideration, there are about 5,000 possible configurations of this pistol right from the factory, without any modifications by a gunsmith or owner other than exchanging a barrel assembly, sights, or grip panels. While this makes these guns a collector's nightmare, they are ideal for those wanting a "custom" pistol without the high price tag such one-of-a-kind guns normally carry.

11-06-2005, 08:09 PM

just got done talking to my older brother on the phone..he said I should use the money to have my Remington 870 12 gauge customized by Scattergun Technologies..said I could use the change to buy another pistol

carbaxp · 11-10-2005, 03:14 PM

you're tryng to analyze situations where you might actually use a DE. Buy a DE is lie Buying a Ferrari...you want people to look at your excessiveness and be jealous. No one buys a ferrari as a daily driver...you want a daily driver get a toyota. The question is would you ever consider buying a DE. Not what gun you like better? or is cheaper ? or has better recoil.

The questin is would you ever consider buying a DE? YES. It is the epitomy of american wastefulness. Its an SUV, h-bomb and supersized BIG MAC meal in the palm of your hand. There is a certain gratification knowing that when I go to the range I'm bringing a small cannon with me. Without a doubt..given the resources I'de buy the 2 of golden tiger striped ones to show off the insane needlessness of those guns. You don't buy this gun to protect your family you but it to shows your friend what happens to Iraqi jihadist pumpkins who stand in the way of freedom.

this is how I image most conversatin around DEs.

guy a: hey what kind of gun are you shooting?
guy b: my new glock 17 It's nice. you?
guy a: Desert Eagle.... Hey, want to see me shoot down a cesna?

alraicer · 11-10-2005, 03:51 PM

"guy a: hey what kind of gun are you shooting?
guy b: my new glock 17 It's nice. you?
guy a: Desert Eagle.... Hey, want to see me shoot down a cesna?"
I like it and I would get a desert Eagle to go with my Baby eagle which is one of the nicest guns I have ever shot

11-10-2005, 05:44 PM

I was missing the point..you talked me back into it

View Poll Results: would you ever seriously consider buying a Desert Eagle ?
yes	18	46.15%
no	21	53.85%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

11-04-2005, 08:21 AM	#22
dave375hh Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 587	I have to say no to the Desert Eagles for two reasons. 1. Can't shoot lead bullets as they plug up the gas piston(also voids the warrantee) 2. If I want to lift weights dumbells are cheaper! I've shot a .44 and a .50AE DE and they shoot really well, but darn they're heavy. __________________ Dave 375 H&H

11-04-2005, 09:48 AM	#23
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	My local guy has a used Magnum Research .357 right now for 560 or so. I was tempted but I know I'd regret it in the end and sell it at a loss. It's huuuuuuge. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

11-05-2005, 11:32 AM	#28
olaftheproud Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 47	I voted yes the 50 ae has a flater trajactory the a 357 . And the knoeledge that dureing desert storm the isrealy army infatry were hand depelted uranime clips used to take out a tank brings me some joy. I would buy one but I know my dad is hard up for cash and will soon sell his to my. But iam huge so the wight is nothing. My wife jokes that my 45 1911 looks like a toy in my hands. Last edited by olaftheproud; 11-05-2005 at 11:37 AM.

11-05-2005, 08:03 PM	#30
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Duncan Long wrote Although an American idea, the "Desert Eagle" was developed in Israel by the IMI (Israel Military Industries) in the early 1980s. The first Desert Eagles were manufactured in Israel and started appearing on gun dealers' shelves in the US around 1985. Following a problem in meeting demand for the pistols in 1992 (and probably fearful of the prospect of government import limitations), Magnum Research started assembling parts of the gun in the US and currently is working toward full assembly and possibly manufacture of the guns stateside. Given the fact that the IMI is best known for the Uzi series of submachine guns and the Galil rifles, it isn't surprising that the Desert Eagle departs radically from many other semiauto pistol designs, though the exterior belays this. The basic layout is like that of most other modern semiauto pistols (with the magazine release on the side of the grip, slide release on the left side of the frame, and a thumb-activated slide safety). Internally things are different. The pistol is gas-operated with a system that is more like a rifle than the delayed blow-back systems used with most other semiauto hand guns. The gas system employs a fixed, shrouded barrel which stays in position on the frame during firing, with gas coming up a port just ahead of the chamber to operate a three-lug rotating bolt that rides in the slide assembly. The fixed barrel gives the gun a lot of potential accuracy, a potential realized with most of these pistols when fired with quality ammunition. In addition to .357 Magnum, .41 AE, .41 Magnum, and .44 Magnum chamberings, the Desert Eagle is also available chambered for the .50 AE (Action Express). The .50 AE uses a rebated cartridge head of 0.514 inch - the same dimension as the .44 Magnum rim. This made it practical to create a cartridge with a .50-caliber bullet without necessitating the production of a new slide assemble or bolt. The same slide assembly created for the .44 Magnum fits with the .50 AE. All that's changed is the barrel and a few other odds and ends of parts. The .50 AE (also known as the .50 Magnum) is currently available from CCI and IMI with the latter ammunition being imported into the US by Magnum Research under the "Samson Ultra" trademark. The bullets with this cartridge are generally around 300 grains and have a muzzle velocity of around 1,380 feet per second (with a 6-inch barrel). This gives the bullet 1,260-plus foot pounds of energy, placing the cartridge well above the .44 Magnum in terms of power. While the hammering of the shooter by a cartridge like the .50 Magnum can be awesome, the weight and gas operation of the Desert Eagle does a good job of reducing this kick, making it considerably less than might be experienced with a revolver chambered for the .44 Magnum. Muzzle blast and flash from the .50 Magnum is also extreme; for this reason it is best employed with a longer barrel whenever this is an option. Unlike most other Desert Eagle pistols, the .50 Magnum models have a contoured barrel with an integral scope mount grooved into its top. There are currently three barrel lengths in all chamberings available for the Desert Eagle: 6, 10, and 14 inches long; earlier models also were available with an 8-inch barrel, but this length has since been discontinued. At the time of this writing, barrels with Mag-na-porting compensation vents are also available to cut recoil to even more manageable amounts. When the various grips, barrel lengths, finishes, and chamberings available for the Desert Eagle are taken into consideration, there are about 5,000 possible configurations of this pistol right from the factory, without any modifications by a gunsmith or owner other than exchanging a barrel assembly, sights, or grip panels. While this makes these guns a collector's nightmare, they are ideal for those wanting a "custom" pistol without the high price tag such one-of-a-kind guns normally carry.

11-03-2005, 06:38 PM	#21
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 934 Images: 3	Only if it's an original IMI model however the Baby desert eagle and the SP21 are great guns.

11-04-2005, 11:21 AM	#24
grasshopper2 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 28	I voted yes. I had to have one. I bought mine as a jam-o-matic from a dealer. The guy that sold it to him couldn't figure out why it was jamming so much after 2000 rounds. The dealer just wanted to get rid of the thing and I bought it for 550 dollars. nice weapon. Here was the problem. The main spring (recoil spring) needs to be replaced often and you have to keep the thing CLEAN! I spent 35 dollars on a cleaning tool a spring kit and put around 3 hours into steam cleaning it and scrubbing the gas system and now it shoots like it is new out of the box. If I HAD to take pistol to take care of business in a time of crisis I would still grab my Colt .45 Night Commander 1911 first but if i had to shoot through a few car doors a few walls or thick clothing, say like a thick uniform or web belt I'd have to go with the eagle hands down. Mine kicks like a .380 too. I can hit moving targerts pretty good with it and it scairs the be-jesus out of the weenies at the range when they hear it next to them in the indoor range. :target:

11-04-2005, 11:29 AM	#25
grasshopper2 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 28	http://www.zvis.com/dep/depfaq.shtml Here is a great sight of troubleshooting a DE. If you have any doubts about purchasing that little pistol check out the troubleshooting section of this sight. It has diagrams and articles about all sorts of problems you might run into. My guess is that the DE for sale is a Mk.vll. Lotts of problems if you don't know them well. I'd offer him 500 for it and see if he bites!

11-04-2005, 12:10 PM	#26
Charlie101 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 54	I voted yes because i think it is a novelty just to say, "Yea, I got a DESERT EAGLE 50, Any Questions?" As far as a practical I'll just take a Glock 22. The DE is just cool I think. :flame:

11-04-2005, 05:44 PM	#27
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I was really tempted..tiger striped titanium plated .50 Action Express :target: I still might buy it

11-05-2005, 01:30 PM	#29
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	.50AE Desert Eagle Pistol $1,749.00 Each titanium gold Desert Eagle .50AE pistol with the tiger stripes is different. With no two the exact same, since each ones finish is hand completed. With the type of mask that is used to complete this finish, we can only offer it on the .50AE pistols. The .44 and .357 pistols have flutes on either side of the barrels. With the flutes the mask does not adhere properly and does not give a clean finish. (It would look more like fish striping than tiger striping!) Product Code: DE50TG-TS

11-06-2005, 08:09 PM	#31
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	just got done talking to my older brother on the phone..he said I should use the money to have my Remington 870 12 gauge customized by Scattergun Technologies..said I could use the change to buy another pistol

11-10-2005, 03:14 PM	#32
carbaxp Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 40	You're missing the point you're tryng to analyze situations where you might actually use a DE. Buy a DE is lie Buying a Ferrari...you want people to look at your excessiveness and be jealous. No one buys a ferrari as a daily driver...you want a daily driver get a toyota. The question is would you ever consider buying a DE. Not what gun you like better? or is cheaper ? or has better recoil. The questin is would you ever consider buying a DE? YES. It is the epitomy of american wastefulness. Its an SUV, h-bomb and supersized BIG MAC meal in the palm of your hand. There is a certain gratification knowing that when I go to the range I'm bringing a small cannon with me. Without a doubt..given the resources I'de buy the 2 of golden tiger striped ones to show off the insane needlessness of those guns. You don't buy this gun to protect your family you but it to shows your friend what happens to Iraqi jihadist pumpkins who stand in the way of freedom. this is how I image most conversatin around DEs. guy a: hey what kind of gun are you shooting? guy b: my new glock 17 It's nice. you? guy a: Desert Eagle.... Hey, want to see me shoot down a cesna?

11-10-2005, 03:51 PM	#33
alraicer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 134	"guy a: hey what kind of gun are you shooting? guy b: my new glock 17 It's nice. you? guy a: Desert Eagle.... Hey, want to see me shoot down a cesna?" I like it and I would get a desert Eagle to go with my Baby eagle which is one of the nicest guns I have ever shot

11-10-2005, 05:44 PM	#34
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I was missing the point..you talked me back into it