[Lcpl Martin]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Cyrano

Corporal, I'm willing to accept your proposition the Jiminez has gotten the bugs out of their design, are building it with better materials and greater precision in machining and assembly. But I'd like to know what proof you have of this, comparing the old design with the bad rep to the new one that is supposedly up to snuff. Photos would be nice to support your position.

I have been searching now for photos of the older ones. I even looked in my local pawn shops. Haven't had any luck, so as of now its just what Jimenez and a few people have stated. On a side note I put another 150 rounds through it friday and it performed well until the rear safety indicator poped off while firing. (The little orange piece of plastic) pistol still fires fine, just no indicator.

I have seen some guides to "fixing" the older JA 9mm and from what they describe the older ones where very low quality and had a lot of burs that needed sanding down.

[bsmit07l]

I am new to the forum, this is my first post.

I recently purchased the JA-22 LR at a pawn shop for next to nothing.

I took it to the range to shoot and it shot well for about 150 rounds, not accurate at all, even at 5 yards very inaccurate..After the initial 150 rounds or so it started jamming, it would jam about 1 per mag, mag only held 6 rounds. My guess is the heat was causing some issues.

I also have the JA-9 I do agree the gun is very accurate, but jams worse than the 22, can't fire more than 15 rounds without a jam.

Wouldn't recommend for self defense unless it was your only option.

[dtierney11]

So i have a roger 9mm, hold 16rounds with one in the chamber, extremely clean! and its for sale, i had a guy interested and then he proceeds to tell me that he would never pay what im asking for my roger, and says he just bought a Jimenez Arms 9mm, and claims that this pistol is better in every way compared to my roger, does anyone else's gut hurt from laughing??????

[double_O_Ro]

Quote:       Originally Posted by dtierney11

So i have a roger 9mm, hold 16rounds with one in the chamber, extremely clean! and its for sale, i had a guy interested and then he proceeds to tell me that he would never pay what im asking for my roger, and says he just bought a Jimenez Arms 9mm, and claims that this pistol is better in every way compared to my roger, does anyone else's gut hurt from laughing??????

Never heard of a Roger firearm. Do you mean Ruger?

[stalebiscuit]

Quote:       Originally Posted by double_O_Ro

Never heard of a Roger firearm. Do you mean Ruger?

i nick name my guns

partner-pete is my cz

[supertech]

Dont let the Gun Snobs get you down, no law suit against the JA 9. Bryco Pistols, Jennings Pistols and Jiminez Pistols Not a big fan of the gun, would not want to be in a fire fight with it, but for less than 200 bucks you can stash a few around your place. I have pushed hundreds of rounds and still have my eyes. (knock on simulated wood product)

[stalebiscuit]

Quote:       Originally Posted by supertech

Dont let the Gun Snobs get you down, no law suit against the JA 9. Bryco Pistols, Jennings Pistols and Jiminez Pistols Not a big fan of the gun, would not want to be in a fire fight with it, but for less than 200 bucks you can stash a few around your place. I have pushed hundreds of rounds and still have my eyes. (knock on simulated wood product)

ive been to that website

only place on the internet glorifying those POS's

i dont trust them, because they are bad guns

[Lcpl Martin]

After 800 rounds my JA 9mm has had some problems. Around 400 shots the rear safety indicator broke. At my last trip to the range, the safety broke which also functions as the release. The gun still functions, however the safety no longer works. Still shoots well for a cheapo gun, but like I have said before if you can afford it get something better for sure. It is not very comfortable to shot.

[twilliams1921]

J.A. Nine 9mm has been the best handgun ive ever shot and its made in the USA!!!!!!!!!!

[BORIS]

A Highpoint can be had for about the same price and in my opinion is a little better.

I have a JA22 that is very reliable with minimag solids. The guns will get dirty fast and are no different than a overly tight 1911. It needs to be cleaned after 200 rounds or you can expect troubles. I however never see myself shooting 200 rounds at one time in a defensive situation with one, so thats fine by me.

I have taken more than a few rabbits at 5-7 yards with mine that refused to flush. Mine may not be the norm but it hits rabbits (alot smaller target than a 2 legged critter) perfect and the light crisp trigger on mine makes it a dream to shoot. I have a few thousand rounds fired from mine and it shows no signs of giving up on me yet and if it ever does, the warranty is top shelf on it.

They are great guns for what they are made for!! They were never made to compete with high $$$ pistols.

[TACAV]

meh a cheap gun (when it works) can shoot you just as dead as an expensive one.

Even still I would never buy a Jimenez. I would never buy a hi point either (yes I know there are a few hi point fans here, all the more power to you, its just not for me)

But if all I had to choose between was a Jimenez or a hi point for a pistol Id take the hi point in a heartbeat any day.

[Lcpl Martin]

Well after 800+ rounds my JA 9 had some issues. The safety/slide release broke and the rear safety indicator broke off. Also the cheap black paint was coming off. Took it back the Jimenez dealer and he just game me a new one. Figured I would report that the new Jimenez pistols are slightly higher quality then the older versions. They now actually use bake on paint and have really cleaned up the metal work (no waves or burrs) They also vastly improved the adjustable rear sights. Still kicks like a pissed off stallion and is not comfortable to shoot, but accuracy is still surprisingly good.

[bubbandtosha]

My father purchased a JA-NINE... I have also just recently purchased a Taurus Millennium Pro PT145. My wife actually picked this weapon out for her concealed carry weapon. She has never fired a handgun before. My father thought it would be a good idea to take his JA-NINE to the range and let her practice on this gun first before I put the .45 in her hands.

This normally would be a great idea. We get out to the range and the JA-NINE would not load a round at first... And I mean at all. I checked and checked and checked. The damned thing would not load. I finally get a round chambered. I fire this round down range. The slide is locked back. The damned thing almost came off. I finally get the gun back together and I set it down. My wife picks it up and fires 3 rounds and then it jams again. I clear the jam and get another round loaded and she fires it again. The weapon jams....

Now normally by this point I would be fuming mad. But this was my fathers gun and not mine. I load the clip into my PT145 and rack the slide. I fire 3 shots flawlessly. I set the gun down. My wife picks it up and ends up putting 50 rounds down range with it and loves it. I went to the range with only 100 .45 rounds and 150 9mm rounds... We only fired about 25 rounds through the JA-NINE... With almost every other round being jammed.

So lets recap this... out of 25 rounds fired through the JA-NINE I had about 20 jams, misfeeds, stovepipes. Out of 90 rounds fired through my PT145 I had 2 jams because the case caught on the ejection port (Was using really cheap ammo and when I actually switched to decent ammo I sent we sent another 100+ rounds with no problems at all). Both of the jams in the PT145 were easily cleared. Every jam on the JA-NINE resulted in having to drop the magazine in order to fix the double feed or the round being stuck straight up instead of loading into the chamber. The JA-NINE is a POS and a safety hazard. I tried fixing my dads gun but it still likes to jam often. Although you can now fire off 8-10 rounds without a jam. I recommended to my dad to please fill this thing with cement and bury it in the back yard. But he won't.

[Cyrano]

After reading the thread, I'm inclined to think you're better off with a good used gun from a reputable company than a Jiminez. You can get a used Tokarev for what Jiminez wants for a new gun. And if you must have a new piece, go with a Hi-Point. They're ugly, but they won't fall apart on you when you shoot them. I've also heard they'll eat anything. I know the Model 995 carbine does; I'd assume the pistols do as well.

[sv_libertarian]

Quote:       Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

ive been to that website only place on the internet glorifying those POS's i dont trust them, because they are bad guns

I post there often under the same user name. I hang out with one of the mods. I have seen and made these "cheap POS'" function and perform well. I have and do happily kill cans all day long with a Jimenez .22 from engagement ranges for such a gun. I know of a man who took his JA-9 (and Glock) to Front Sight and learned a lot with it and about it.

I would not and have not hesitated to shoot anything from the old Jennings line.

[sv_libertarian]

Bubba, what are you running through your JA-9? FMJ round nose is probably your best bet.

[ACfixer]

Why anybody would buy a gun that has a reputation of guns flying apart is beyond me. Sure, your buddy or whoever has had one that hasn't given him any problems like the slide knocking his teeth out... but there have been plenty of stories about Jennings. Probably why they changed the name.

We're not talking about paintball guns here guys, we're talking about a weapon that wields deadly force and that force can go both ways. I'll never been seen shooting a $150 9mm. For God sakes, put a crowbar in your wallet and buy a real gun.

[sv_libertarian]

Why anyone would buy a gun with a so-called "safety" on the trigger is beyond me, but Glock's continue to sell.

Your own speculation and ignorance as to why Jennings became Jimenez suggests to me you have no idea as to the rest of what you speak about. They sold due to bankruptcy fueled by crazy anti gun lawsuits. Their factory manager purchased the tooling and rights, and moved to Nevada.

That said, I have seen all manner of expensive guns fail, and I've seen all manner of cheap guns run. I tinker with these things as a hobby. And in nearly all cases a well cared for, well maintained, zinc alloy handgun is a perfectly safe weapon.

I suggest you stop dealing in "stories" and start dealing in facts. You'll find they are more useful. And I promise you, for each and every verifiable exploding Jennings/Bryco/Jimenez story you come up with, I will find a similar one for a major name handgun.

[ACfixer]

The fact I deal in sir is that I buy quality firearms and not budget garbage which these guns are. Their lawsuit was from one of their defective pieces of crap flying apart and injuring their owners and before you call me ignorant, read up.

Guns, Firearms, Projectile Weapon Sports: 9mm Jimenez, semi automatic pistols, 9mm pistol

AND

Firm Told to Stop Making Handgun - Los Angeles Times

Many more articles on that gem, but I'm just too lazy to do your homework. The gun is a piece of crap and exactly what you normally get when you go cheap.

Thanks for the insults by the way, I'll wear them proudly

[sv_libertarian]

The lawsuit that took down Bryco was due to a stupid accidental discharge Bryco Arms/Jennings Firearms/Jimenez Arms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good way out with claiming laziness BTW. I have taken my Jennings guns out with my Ruger, Smith, and other top end handguns and enjoyed it and shot it as much as anything else.

Here are some exploding Glocks! By your logic and claims you should be denouncing Glock as heavily as Jimenez Exploding Glock (with pics) - The Firearms Forum.Com

Unless you have personally owned, examined, gone over and fired a Jennings style handgun you really should reserve judgement on them being POS'. But armchair gun experts are a dime a dozen. When I refuse to shoot or own a gun it's based on my own experiences, not the whispered rumors, deliberate misunderstandings, or simple snobbery.