[kleckel11]

I have both a jimenez 9mm and a high point .45 never had any problems with either one , my brother has a 9mm not a jimenez and his jams all the time and its one of those real expensive ones, what can I say I'm happy with mine.

[Heavy shooter]

Personally I'd never own a Jiminez. They are pretty bad, However they do serve a purpose. In a self defense situation I much rather have a gun that could jam rather than no gun at all. Jiminez and Hi-point also get people started in shooting for a low price. I'm a regular at my range, And Most of the new people show up with Hi-points. They shoot them for a while and step up to a better pistol. There a quite a few people out there who never shot pistols, but were drawn into it by the low price of a Hi-point and became totally addicted and now have much better stuff. I'm one of them. I was mostly a bench rest shooter until I happened by a Hi-point at a gun show and now I do quite a bit of pistol shooting.


I do however think it's a mistake to lump Hi-point in with "ring of fire". Hi-point is fine for what it is, A low cost, reasonably reliable, reasonably accurate, pistol. And anything that gets more people into shooting helps our cause. How many people start reloading with a Lee Loader and get into and step up to something better? It's the same thing.

[danf6975]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Denver41

I bought a Jimenez 380 about a week ago and talked my brother in to buying one today.

why on earth would you talk anyone into wasting thier money if you have never fired the weapon in question?

[Lobo0311]

Jimenez = Crapola. Anyone who asks me gets the same response, "If ya want a good reliable gun, for a dirt cheap price go with a Hi-point.", they're ugly as hell but as long it shoots in the right direction every time I pull the trigger i could care less what it looks like.

[travisg96]

I have a Hi-Point c9 and have never had a problem with it. Have only put about 200 rounds through it so it has not really been put to the test yet I suppose. The only issue was the first time I fired it it kept jamming but that was due to me not pushing the shell all the way back when loading the magazine. I also own a HiPoint 995 carbine and just recently took it out to shoot. The only issue I had with it was it jammed after 250+ rounds being fired through it. The gun had not been cleaned anywhere in that 250 rounds and when it jammed I was firing off the last 6 rounds I had in my pocket pulling the trigger as fast as I could.

Now as for people who want to argue about the metallurgical aspects of metal, Zink is soft and brittle and tends to work harden really fast. However with the right alloying it can be changed some. Zamak has a higher amount of copper than pot zink wich makes it less brittle and more ductile. There is also about 7 grades of it so before you start bashing a name be sure you know exactally wich alloy you are talking about.

Now as for labeling gun steel as ductile, Yes there is ductile iron(iron not steel) but guns are not made out of it. Niether is it flexable. Yes all steel(all metal for that matter) flexes and is elastic to a point the steel used to make guns is not extremly flexable and in my opinion is not at all ductile.
Travis

[rwt101]

I have a Hi-Point c9 and have run about 300 rounds through it with no problems at all. Also the c9 is a blow back type pistol and needs a heavier slide to operate. I also have a cz82, and a pa63, all blow back type pistols.
I have read that the slide on the Hi-Point has a steel frame in it. Don't know if that is true or not.
Bob T

[Constantine357]

The Hi Point firearm will be MORE reliable with more rounds put through it.

[rwt101]

I also just got a 995st 9mm Hi-Point carbine. I have never fired a rifle that was as acurate as this one is. Functions great just like the C9.
Bob T

[Billyz]

Did anyone else notice that all the posters that were defending the Jiminez had single digit post counts?

[dayid]

Quote:       Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

i will settle this once in for all i promise to buy both a hi-point and a jiminez arms new in box before the summer is out and test them both i will post the video's when i get the chance

This ever happen in any capacity?

[Mooseman684]

High-point WON !

[mitchr]

rfc357,

Just a bit of an interesting note, I guess there are exceptions to every rule. My wife owns a Raven 25. Bought about 35 years ago for something like $59.95. Bought at a time when we didn't know much about semi-autos & didn't have a lot of money to spend. Hadn't been fired a lot (less than a full box of ammo) & last time fired was right after buying it. Has NEVER been cleaned, but I'd lubed it with some dry teflon powder, rather than oil. Her need for it had ceased & we also learned that it was not a very dependable pistol. Just for kicks, loaded it up a couple of months ago & with no lubrication, put a couple of mag loads through it without a single hiccup! I wouldn't have believed it if anyone told me it would have worked! I've been told by several that I should fill it with cement & get rid of it. We both have better pistols now & definitely do not need it, but I think we'll hang on to it just for old times sake. May actually be a collectible one day!

[stalebiscuit]

Quote:       Originally Posted by dayid

This ever happen in any capacity?

i havent been able to

i did buy a hi point .45 but not the jimminez, also i dont have a video camera

anyway i bought the .45 used for a whopping 129 dollars even. and let me tell you, i hate it as far as trying to carry it, breaking it down sucks, but when it comes to reliability, 200 rounds through and not a jam. whats more is for a .45 the recoil is real low

its just to bulky for me and im not a fan of it, that being said its cheap and functioned fine

its a great gun i hate to admit, personally ill sell mine and get something i do like. but it does work all day

[Lcpl Martin]

Well I just purchased a new J.A. Nine at the gun show, got thrown in along with a case for 50 bucks when I bought a 1942 nagant rifle and pistol. Anyways hadn't heard of them before but with a life time warranty i figured why not. Anyways spend all last night and some of this morning researching the gun since it was so damn cheap. Have found a few things. Mostly that 80% of the people bashing it don't have a freaking clue what they are talking about. However I have only found a few sources that have good things to say. (Not including post on forums from people with 1 or 2 post) Anyways I am heading to the range in a couple hours, gonna suck its 10 degrees outside, and will be firing the J.A. Nine. Figured I would let you all know the results. Don't have a video camera so I can't post a video but I will post my findings.

[hfreyer]

It is a cheap gun, that I would not shoot a lot. I bought one at a gun show in Houston, shot two clips through it and then leave it in my car as one of my CCW weapons. The idea being that if someone breaks into my car I would rather them steal that gun instead of my Combat Commander, my Beretta 92, or my Hi Power.

[Lcpl Martin]

Ok just got back from the range with my Jimenez 9mm........... I was surprised. After all the horrible things i had heard the pistol performed well after the initial problems. That's right initial problems. I loaded up 12 rounds, which is the max clip size and fired..... jam. I crap you not! The first freaking shot and it jammed. I was pretty sure at that point I had purchased a piece of crap. At this point my friend was laughing pretty hard. Anyways I shot again and it JAMMED. Thats right folk... the first two times i shot the damn thing it jammed both tried. I then fired off the rest of the magazine. Loaded up another 12 and had a jam on the second fire. At this point I remembered how the crappy m16 magz they give us hold 30 but we only load 27 because the springs are too tight and cause jams so i started loading 10 rounds instead of the 12 round max. The problem stopped. I fired a little over 200 rounds 10 at a time without a single problem. I then started loading up 12 rounds again and put another 72 rounds through the pistol without a problem. This leads me to believe that the magazines need to be broken in. Also the fact that i was shooting outside and it was just a bit over 7 degrees outside might have had some impact on the initial problems with jaming( who knows) Anyways I put just under 300 rounds through my new Jimenez 9mm and after the initial problems had nothing else go wrong. Also I would like to let everyone know that this little cheapo gun is accurate, very accurate. I would also like everyone to know that this gun kicks like a mule and can actually hurt your hand if you hold it to high. I attached an image where i circled the part that can hurt your hand. The recoil can cause the slide release to bust up your hand if hold it high but i managed to avoid it after the first magazine. Also the 2 red indicators are great, one to show you when the firing pin is cocked and one to tell you in there is a round chambered (a very nice touch in my opinion) Overall I am very pleased with this little cheap bastid and think that it will work perfect for my home and car although its a bit to heavy to use for carry conceal. I talked to some people at the gun show included the vendor who sold it to me and they admitted that the Jimenez 9mm does have problems firing the wider hallow points at first and that they recommend 300-400 rounds be passed through the pistol befor it will reliably fire them. I talked to another guy (Not a vendor) who says he puts 9mm hallow points through his without problem.


CONS
-Ether the cheap magazines are to tight at first or it doesn't like the cold cold. Was having jams initially on the first 2 rounds.
-Has problems with some hallow points initially (Rumors, not confirmed or denied)
-Heavy heavy heavy, i guess if it jams you run out of ammo you could always throw it at the target.

PROS
-CHEAP cheap CHEAP
-Accurate, I can not stress enough now accurate this little 9mm is. I was impressed
-The rear site full adjustment capacity.
-Safety indicators are nice
-New safety feature does not allow the firing pin to be discharged IE you can not fire this weapon when there is no magazine inserted and you cannot dissemble the pistol with a magazine inserted so the gun no longer has the "safety" flaw that California baned it for in the first place.
-My vendor is locale and very nice, even swapped out my newly purchased Jimenez 9mm for a new one when i noticed the first sight red plastic post didn't line up exactly with the metal post (could have just adjusted the rear site to fix this but he just gave me a new one) He also is willing to pay for shipping if it ever breaks.(This is just my dealer so it depends person to person i guess)
-Life time warranty.

If you need a cheap gun this is not a bad choice. Anyone who says its useless and dangerous is wrong.

*****
To be fair the gun is still new and has not had a lot of wear and tear. I will try to remember to update this as i get more rounds in it.

[stalebiscuit]

i still wouldnt trust it. i think hi points are better, but hey if it works for some folks...

[Lcpl Martin]

Quote:       Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

i still wouldnt trust it. i think hi points are better, but hey if it works for some folks...

I have never fired a Hi-Point so I can't comment. All i can say is that with a load of 10 the Jimenez 9mm never jammed and was as accurate if not more so then my Glock 17 or Springfield XD **** I am not saying its better so don't start foaming at the mouth****

[Lcpl Martin]

Just and update, put 150 more rounds through the pistol without a failure. Haven't let the pistol get dirty yet, I clean it after every shoot. I believe that makes 550 rounds now without problem.

[Archetype_wyo]

Quote:       Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

i still wouldnt trust it. I think hi points are better, but hey if it works for some folks...

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