Thanks for the info on where I can buy some extra mags for the Norinco. As it turns out, I will be in Vancouver at the end of this month for my nephew's wedding so I will drop in to Lever Arms and pick them up.
I'm slowly getting to like the fake Tokarev and will probably use it instead of my Para 1911 Limited .45 or Beretta 96D .40 when I take the IPSC Black Badge course in May. We need at least 400 rounds of ammo, a holster and 4 mags for the course so to keep the cost down I'm going with my little 9 mm Chicom knock-off.
You might be lucky and not have any FTF problems like I did but if you do it will most likely the feeder ramp that needs some polishing. You could use a Dremel rotary tool to do the job quicker but you risk over-polishing the ramp and screwing up the factory machined grooves. Do it by hand and everything will work out okay. I thought the ammo might be the problem - Winchester 115 grain, FMJ - but now they feed like s**t through a goose. Cheers from the still frozen east coast.
Do you have any problems with the rough trigger pull and miniscule grips on this pistol? I don't have huge "man hands", but I find that my pinkie finger is at the bottom of the magazine, which doesn't leave much for grip stability.. Also, I am trained for and use the old S&W Model 10 revolver at my job (armored car company), and I find that the trigger pull/break point on the 213 feels even heavier than the double action on the Model 10. Again, not a big deal for a $99 pistol, but are you sure you want to use this weapon for a IPSC course of fire? Personally, I'd prefer the Beretta .40 for something like that; I sure wouldn't substitute the 213 for my Model 10 when it comes down to tactical shooting, and subsiquent renewal of my permit to carry restricted for my job.
:d : Yup, the trigger pull on this $99 gun is a bit stiff to say the least and it's almost impossible not to anticipate the shot, which doesn't help with putting your rounds in the bulls eye or anywhere on the target for that matter.
By the way, I checked with the folks at Lever Arms and they said the mags they have will only fit the Norinco Type 54 in 9 mm and might not fit the M213 9 mm. Apparently, the mags for the Type 54 model have spacers inside the mag while the M213 mags have spacers in the mag well. I'm checking with Mark at Canada Ammo to see if the two mags are interchangeable but I'm willing to bet they aren't.
I agree the Beretta or Para would be better guns for the IPSC course but I don't intend to compete in their events at my age (63) until I become a much better shooter. I figure it's cheaper to use 9 mm ammo until my accuracy and speed improve.
I had the same problem with my safety and had it removed. Gun shoots great but magazines fell apart. Ok, The cat knocked it off the dresser onto the floor and the end of the magazine broke off. My ex-wife dropped it at the range and broke the other one. Trouble locating replacements based on the KSI Pomona, CA (KSI Model 213) stamped on the slide. Will try again at upcoming gun show.
Wow! You guys are getting some great deals. I just purchased my Norinco 213 for almost twice that price, in the box, very nice condition, two mags. Shot it for the first time today. Seemed to shoot a little high but nothing I can't compensate for. I hear so much about the Yugo, Russian and other versions of this gun. I've got a Chinese and, I've heard that the safety was "backward" in that you have it pulled it back to fire and forward to put the gun "on safety." Mine is just the opposite. Push forward to fire. Does that mean it's one of those variations (type something or other) or a model-B or ? I like the gun and I'm looking forward to spending some time with it. Great forum and a lot of great information here. Thanks!
Hi folks, been surfing the net trying to indendtify my gun. It is a 9 mm chinese. Looks like a norinco 213. But says "interstate arms" on the left side and also has a triangle with 66 inside it. I think its just another copy of the takarov. It also had the a jamming problem with lead bullits till i sanded the ramp into the barrel. Now it fires fine and is very accurit. I wish they made a larger mag for it. It only holds 8. And i also need more mags. Any ideas where ? And do you know anything about the make of this gun? Or the year made?