Hi Point torture test...

NRAJOE · 11-23-2007, 03:02 PM

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Oxford · 11-23-2007, 04:54 PM

Looks like a tough test, and I'd say for the most part it passed. Now for a dirt and sand test. How's it fire when it's thrown down and around under those conditions?

I would guess that the .45ACP 1911 A1 would pass tests such as those above and even more...but I think it's the toughest of all guns made for working under bad conditions.

SilentSoul · 11-23-2007, 05:00 PM

I would love to do one of these, but not on my Springfield that cost me 500.00. But if someone wanted to give me stuff and tell me what to do, now that would be awesome.
I was hearing about an independent magazine that actually goes out and buys the weapons test them(not torture test) and then either sells them or gives them away. Very Objective.

GoodAim · 11-23-2007, 05:03 PM

I still wouldn't buy a Hi-Point. Had one it was junk, never going back.

Big Dog · 11-23-2007, 05:37 PM

SS - you may be talking of "Guntests". They take the guns, test them against others of the same niche or design, and they take NO advertising, so no need to kowtow to any manufacturer. Sometimes, the tests are surprising - the High-Points scored well against other inexpensive pistols, and against bigname guns too.
Sometimes, the supposed "best" lost out to the cheapos.

GT also carried out long-term testing, to see how the guns stood the test of time.

ouch · 11-23-2007, 06:35 PM

I have two hipoint handguns.
I have had them for several months.
Both fire fine and are accurate. Limp wristing causes them to not eject well.

I hand load and they will eat almost every round that I make. 3gr of trail boss with lead bullets is fine as is 8 grains of alliant 2400.

I have had to have one magazine replaced and needed to have a firing pin spring replaced on the striker. It was working but not firing all the time with CCI primed cartridges.

I have fired thousands of rounds.

They are made in the same vein as the AK with loose fitting parts.

I paid 150 for my 45 and 130 for my nine with two magazines. I have since purchased more mags.

I've got other hand guns with bigger price tags but mostly when I shoot autos, they are HPs.

redhed · 11-23-2007, 06:36 PM

We saw that test on the Hi Point Forum.

You either love Hi Points, or you hate them, there is very little middle ground for the weapons.

I own a 9 carbine and started out suspicious of it. Brand new, if suffered frequent failures to eject and stove pipes until it was broke in properly. Now I couldn't ask for a more reliable or accurate gun to shoot. I went as far as putting a red dot scope on it and after about three months, pulled it off and put the iron sights back on it. It shot better with it's stock sights than with an add on.

Yes, there are those that say they are cheaply made guns. Maybe they are, but Hi Point will stand behind their product when something does go bad with them and you won't wait 6 months to have them deal with the problem.

I was at a gun show recently discussing Beretta Storms with a dealer and comparing them to the Hi Point 40 carbine. At one point the dealer told me that he had owned both weapons and shrugged, saying, he'd paid a little over 200 for his Hi Point and over 600 for his Storm, and it was his opinion that one shot just as well as the other.

Not everyone can afford a 600 dollar plus gun. Owning a cheap Hi Point is better than owning no gun at all if there is a bad guy beating down your front door.

gunney_m · 11-23-2007, 06:42 PM

Id say that was a good test on a gun needed to be tested.

SilentSoul · 11-23-2007, 06:43 PM

The one thing that always comes to mind about hi-point is they have the fastest purchase to street rate of all handguns something like under 6 months. What that means is from the time they are bought to the time they make it to the street and are used in a crime is very short. Obviously this is not all hi points, and it is probably due to their cheap pricetag. Does this make them a bad gun. Nope. Just has always stuck in my head.

ouch · 11-23-2007, 06:55 PM

I have never heard of the term. Where did you get your terminology and data.

Mine are available to any criminal that can take them from me. I will increase their the amount of lead in their system in the process.

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Originally Posted by SilentSoul

The one thing that always comes to mind about hi-point is they have the fastest purchase to street rate of all handguns something like under 6 months. What that means is from the time they are bought to the time they make it to the street and are used in a crime is very short. Obviously this is not all hi points, and it is probably due to their cheap pricetag. Does this make them a bad gun. Nope. Just has always stuck in my head.

gunney_m · 11-23-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ouch

I have never heard of the term. Where did you get your terminology and data.

Mine are available to any criminal that can take them from me. I will increase their the amount of lead in their system in the process.

Aint it.

.22guy · 11-23-2007, 07:40 PM

I knew you loved the Hi-Points Joe. Or was that BigDog that hated them so much?

22plinker · 11-23-2007, 08:25 PM

I picked up a new Hi-Point 380 at the Yuma gun show. Price: $141 with tax. Close inspection showed razor sharp edge on breech. I loaded a round in the clip, cycled the slide & the cartridge slid right it. First shot fired fine & ejected the empty shell. A full magazine followed & I actually hit the golf ball I was aiming at, on the third shot, then 2 more hits, same clip. Wow, I'm impressed. I ran a box of 50 through it, no misfires, no problems, nothing! I'm happy!
I like the way it fits my hand & most important, the 380 & heavy gun does NOT irritate my arthritic wrist. I think I'll shoot this one a lot! Good job Hi-Point! I'm a happy customer!

SPOCAHP ANAR · 11-24-2007, 09:06 AM

I have never owned one, but I did get to handle one a friend was buying. What really turned me off was the amount of plastic parts on them; the trigger was loose and made of plastic. For the same money I can buy a mauser or makarov.

With the exception of the one post here today I have never heard anything negative from their owners. Their owners LOVE them.

LefthandShooter · 11-30-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodAim

I still wouldn't buy a Hi-Point. Had one it was junk, never going back.

Brother had one. Firing pin broke every 50 - 75 times he shot it. I told him to use it as a door stop. He found someone to but it though. Poor sucker!

gunney_m · 12-01-2007, 08:27 AM

Still think they are good guns from personal experience. Maybe I just got lucky.

troylaplante · 12-01-2007, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LefthandShooter

Brother had one. Firing pin broke every 50 - 75 times he shot it. I told him to use it as a door stop. He found someone to but it though. Poor sucker!

Hi Point would fix it FREE of charge. Best warranty in the firearms industry.

Big Dog · 12-01-2007, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by troylaplante

Hi Point would fix it FREE of charge. Best warranty in the firearms industry.

Actually, they and Henry are equal on that. Henry WILL fix the problem to your satisfaction. Both are excellent on service. The Big Names could learn much from them.

.22Guy, I like the Carbine, and have one. I don't care for the pistols only because they are ugly. They have a good rep for function. I don't rule out my possibly getting one.
I AM the guy who utterly hates the abominable little Plumber's Nightmare called the Kel-Tec Sub2000!

11-23-2007, 04:54 PM	#2
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 12,981 Trader Rating: (0)	Looks like a tough test, and I'd say for the most part it passed. Now for a dirt and sand test. How's it fire when it's thrown down and around under those conditions? I would guess that the .45ACP 1911 A1 would pass tests such as those above and even more...but I think it's the toughest of all guns made for working under bad conditions. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

11-23-2007, 05:03 PM	#4
GoodAim Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaumont Tx Posts: 383 Trader Rating: (0)	I still wouldn't buy a Hi-Point. Had one it was junk, never going back. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]Power is useless with out Direction.

11-23-2007, 05:37 PM	#5
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,063 Trader Rating: (0)	SS - you may be talking of "Guntests". They take the guns, test them against others of the same niche or design, and they take NO advertising, so no need to kowtow to any manufacturer. Sometimes, the tests are surprising - the High-Points scored well against other inexpensive pistols, and against bigname guns too. Sometimes, the supposed "best" lost out to the cheapos. GT also carried out long-term testing, to see how the guns stood the test of time. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-23-2007, 06:35 PM	#6
ouch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ridgerun, Mo Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (0)	Hi point I have two hipoint handguns. I have had them for several months. Both fire fine and are accurate. Limp wristing causes them to not eject well. I hand load and they will eat almost every round that I make. 3gr of trail boss with lead bullets is fine as is 8 grains of alliant 2400. I have had to have one magazine replaced and needed to have a firing pin spring replaced on the striker. It was working but not firing all the time with CCI primed cartridges. I have fired thousands of rounds. They are made in the same vein as the AK with loose fitting parts. I paid 150 for my 45 and 130 for my nine with two magazines. I have since purchased more mags. I've got other hand guns with bigger price tags but mostly when I shoot autos, they are HPs.

11-23-2007, 07:40 PM	#12
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,066 Trader Rating: (0)	I knew you loved the Hi-Points Joe. Or was that BigDog that hated them so much? __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

11-23-2007, 03:02 PM	#1
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,014 Trader Rating: (0)	Hi Point torture test... On the Hi Point forum Hi-Point Firearms Forums :: View topic - Thay's torture test #1 __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

11-23-2007, 05:00 PM	#3
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (0)	I would love to do one of these, but not on my Springfield that cost me 500.00. But if someone wanted to give me stuff and tell me what to do, now that would be awesome. I was hearing about an independent magazine that actually goes out and buys the weapons test them(not torture test) and then either sells them or gives them away. Very Objective.

11-23-2007, 06:36 PM	#7
redhed Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Armpit, Illinois, USA Posts: 325 Trader Rating: (0)	We saw that test on the Hi Point Forum. You either love Hi Points, or you hate them, there is very little middle ground for the weapons. I own a 9 carbine and started out suspicious of it. Brand new, if suffered frequent failures to eject and stove pipes until it was broke in properly. Now I couldn't ask for a more reliable or accurate gun to shoot. I went as far as putting a red dot scope on it and after about three months, pulled it off and put the iron sights back on it. It shot better with it's stock sights than with an add on. Yes, there are those that say they are cheaply made guns. Maybe they are, but Hi Point will stand behind their product when something does go bad with them and you won't wait 6 months to have them deal with the problem. I was at a gun show recently discussing Beretta Storms with a dealer and comparing them to the Hi Point 40 carbine. At one point the dealer told me that he had owned both weapons and shrugged, saying, he'd paid a little over 200 for his Hi Point and over 600 for his Storm, and it was his opinion that one shot just as well as the other. Not everyone can afford a 600 dollar plus gun. Owning a cheap Hi Point is better than owning no gun at all if there is a bad guy beating down your front door.

11-23-2007, 06:42 PM	#8
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Id say that was a good test on a gun needed to be tested.

11-23-2007, 06:43 PM	#9
SilentSoul Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 603 Trader Rating: (0)	The one thing that always comes to mind about hi-point is they have the fastest purchase to street rate of all handguns something like under 6 months. What that means is from the time they are bought to the time they make it to the street and are used in a crime is very short. Obviously this is not all hi points, and it is probably due to their cheap pricetag. Does this make them a bad gun. Nope. Just has always stuck in my head.

11-23-2007, 08:25 PM	#13
22plinker Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 48 Trader Rating: (0)	Hi-Point 380 I picked up a new Hi-Point 380 at the Yuma gun show. Price: $141 with tax. Close inspection showed razor sharp edge on breech. I loaded a round in the clip, cycled the slide & the cartridge slid right it. First shot fired fine & ejected the empty shell. A full magazine followed & I actually hit the golf ball I was aiming at, on the third shot, then 2 more hits, same clip. Wow, I'm impressed. I ran a box of 50 through it, no misfires, no problems, nothing! I'm happy! I like the way it fits my hand & most important, the 380 & heavy gun does NOT irritate my arthritic wrist. I think I'll shoot this one a lot! Good job Hi-Point! I'm a happy customer!

11-24-2007, 09:06 AM	#14
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,023 Trader Rating: (0)	I have never owned one, but I did get to handle one a friend was buying. What really turned me off was the amount of plastic parts on them; the trigger was loose and made of plastic. For the same money I can buy a mauser or makarov. With the exception of the one post here today I have never heard anything negative from their owners. Their owners LOVE them. __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

12-01-2007, 08:27 AM	#16
gunney_m Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Muskogee,Ok Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0)	Still think they are good guns from personal experience. Maybe I just got lucky.