kel -tec PLR-16 Pistol

billy · 12-28-2007, 06:07 PM

does anyone know anything about these?
i think i want one.

it looks like a fun paper puncher.
5.56mm. nato

utahvarminter · 12-28-2007, 10:40 PM

Kel Tec = Poop on a Stick...

ArkansasHunter · 12-28-2007, 10:43 PM

It's a cute little bugger ain't it !

billy · 12-29-2007, 06:35 AM

U.V. so far after surfing and looking at reviews yours is the only negative one i have found.
any particular reason for the dislike?

Bravo · 12-29-2007, 01:06 PM

Looks like a Star Wars gun...I want one

I wonder how the recoil is, or how it's held?

utahvarminter · 12-29-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billy

U.V. so far after surfing and looking at reviews yours is the only negative one i have found.
any particular reason for the dislike?

Personal experience - Couple of people at the range have come in with my dad and I, and haven't gone 10 rounds without a hiccup. For the price, they're fine, but I'd never seriously depend on it. Two or three times I heard people coming into the local shop asking for an exchange on their Kel Tec .32 autos, or complaining that they don't function. May be stupid people, but I can't get over the range reports, and experiences I've had/heard.
However, that bottom pict in the first post... Oh my... I think I need one to play with for a day or two...

mosineer · 12-29-2007, 01:53 PM

Hey Billy,
Love mine!! I have run about 600 rounds of Wolf .223 thru mine with about a half dozen Wolf duds. Had a couple of jams with the 2nd clip I used after buying.( one 30 RD clip (retired) ) No problems since. Very accurate with my LER scope and sling for steadying. The noise and the fire ball rate a 10 on the impressed me scale. I like it. Thought a Kel-Tec forum would work great here also, for no other reason than to hear the pros and cons. The PLR- 16 is the only Kel-Tec I own, but have been tempted a number of times. The bottom line Billy, I do really like mine and do not plan on getting rid of it any time soon. If there is a drawback, it is the fact the fore arm and the muzzle brake are to me pretty much essential extras (cost) for accuracy and comfort....

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mattmacklind · 12-29-2007, 03:09 PM

Does anyone make a collapsable stock for them?

.22guy · 12-29-2007, 03:24 PM

Those are sweet! But I can't have them in California. I think these fall under the catergory of "I don't really need it, but I'll buy it because I can". I sure would if I could.

billy · 12-30-2007, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by .22guy

Those are sweet! But I can't have them in California. I think these fall under the catergory of "I don't really need it, but I'll buy it because I can". I sure would if I could.

every gun i own falls into that catagory.

just_a_car · 12-31-2007, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mattmacklind

Does anyone make a collapsable stock for them?

NO. Or, at least, if they do, you shouldn't use them.

That would be illegal since it is classified as a pistol. Putting a buttstock on it would make it a Short Barreled Rifle and a Class III firearm. Unless you go through the proper channels with the BATFE to make it an SBR, you will be breaking federal laws.

mosineer · 01-01-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mattmacklind

Does anyone make a collapsable stock for them?

Just need to buy rifle version of the PLR 16. The Kel-Tec SU 16

The SU-16's are self-loading rifles for the .223 Remington cartridge. They accept standard M-16 and AR-15 magazines, anc come in several exciting configuations.
Now legal in California- all models (A,B,CA) except the 'C' model.

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billy · 01-01-2008, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattmacklind

Does anyone make a collapsable stock for them?

if you wanted an AR just buy an AR.
this is a pistol.

evilblackrifle · 01-01-2008, 06:26 PM

I've heard nothing but excellent reports from those that own them.

They're very cool. (And loud!)

billy · 01-01-2008, 06:33 PM

i got to handle one yesterday.
they are light!

damage855 · 01-01-2008, 07:26 PM

a friend of mine has one a blast to shot! very fun but it is deffently one of those firearms that you just get it because you can.

squirrelbaster · 01-25-2008, 08:55 PM

wow that rifle version is ugly as sin......and yet for some reason i like it.....

BluesStringer · 01-26-2008, 10:07 AM

The PLR-16 and the SU-16 share the identical action and trigger assemblies. I have an SU-16A, pictured below, which holds one 30 rd. mag in the butt-stock, or two 10-rounders, has a built-in bi-pod and picatinny (sp?) rail that the scope is mounted to in the pics. This model is also a folding stock. They accept AR-15/M-16 mags, which are probably the cheapest and most available rifel mags on the market. I've shot at least 5,000 rounds through mine and never had a FTF or FTE. I did have a couple of duds, as well as a "squib" where only the primer ignited, and had to quit for the day because the bullet stayed in the barrel and I didn't have a cleaning kit or rod with me to get it out, but neither of those problems can be attributed to the gun. There are thousands upon thousands of satisfied owners of both Kel-Tec rifles and pistols. That's not to say that some don't get a "Monday-made" gun here and there, but from everything I've read, Kel-Tec's customer service and warranty dept. is very accommodating.

My advice, don't take the advice of someone who knocks 'em while admitting that he's never held one or shot one. For folks who don't have $1,000 bucks laying around to drop on a decent AR-15, Kel-Tecs are a great alternative, and from my personal experience, a reliable alternative as well.

knightRider · 01-26-2008, 11:47 AM

i like my keltec little 32 pistol had some problems feeding but it was the old mag i got with it when i bought it . new mag shoots great

12-28-2007, 06:07 PM	#1
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,976 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	kel -tec PLR-16 Pistol does anyone know anything about these? i think i want one. it looks like a fun paper puncher. 5.56mm. nato __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

12-28-2007, 10:40 PM	#2
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	Kel Tec = Poop on a Stick... __________________ My Photo Album

12-29-2007, 06:35 AM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,976 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	U.V. so far after surfing and looking at reviews yours is the only negative one i have found. any particular reason for the dislike? __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

12-29-2007, 03:24 PM	#9
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,145	Those are sweet! But I can't have them in California. I think these fall under the catergory of "I don't really need it, but I'll buy it because I can". I sure would if I could. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

01-01-2008, 06:33 PM	#15
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 11,976 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	i got to handle one yesterday. they are light! __________________ just leave britney ALONE! she's going thru a hard time snivel sniff....WAH

12-28-2007, 10:43 PM	#3
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,678	It's a cute little bugger ain't it !

12-29-2007, 01:06 PM	#5
Bravo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Maine, USA Posts: 1,881	Looks like a Star Wars gun...I want one I wonder how the recoil is, or how it's held?

12-29-2007, 01:53 PM	#7
mosineer Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 1,299	Hey Billy, Love mine!! I have run about 600 rounds of Wolf .223 thru mine with about a half dozen Wolf duds. Had a couple of jams with the 2nd clip I used after buying.( one 30 RD clip (retired) ) No problems since. Very accurate with my LER scope and sling for steadying. The noise and the fire ball rate a 10 on the impressed me scale. I like it. Thought a Kel-Tec forum would work great here also, for no other reason than to hear the pros and cons. The PLR- 16 is the only Kel-Tec I own, but have been tempted a number of times. The bottom line Billy, I do really like mine and do not plan on getting rid of it any time soon. If there is a drawback, it is the fact the fore arm and the muzzle brake are to me pretty much essential extras (cost) for accuracy and comfort.... *************************************************** All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing**

12-29-2007, 03:09 PM	#8
mattmacklind Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 24	Does anyone make a collapsable stock for them?

01-01-2008, 06:26 PM	#14
evilblackrifle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 194	I've heard nothing but excellent reports from those that own them. They're very cool. (And loud!)

01-01-2008, 07:26 PM	#16
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 927 Blog Entries: 1	a friend of mine has one a blast to shot! very fun but it is deffently one of those firearms that you just get it because you can. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

01-25-2008, 08:55 PM	#17
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,237	wow that rifle version is ugly as sin......and yet for some reason i like it.....

01-26-2008, 10:07 AM	#18
BluesStringer Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 36	The PLR-16 and the SU-16 share the identical action and trigger assemblies. I have an SU-16A, pictured below, which holds one 30 rd. mag in the butt-stock, or two 10-rounders, has a built-in bi-pod and picatinny (sp?) rail that the scope is mounted to in the pics. This model is also a folding stock. They accept AR-15/M-16 mags, which are probably the cheapest and most available rifel mags on the market. I've shot at least 5,000 rounds through mine and never had a FTF or FTE. I did have a couple of duds, as well as a "squib" where only the primer ignited, and had to quit for the day because the bullet stayed in the barrel and I didn't have a cleaning kit or rod with me to get it out, but neither of those problems can be attributed to the gun. There are thousands upon thousands of satisfied owners of both Kel-Tec rifles and pistols. That's not to say that some don't get a "Monday-made" gun here and there, but from everything I've read, Kel-Tec's customer service and warranty dept. is very accommodating. My advice, don't take the advice of someone who knocks 'em while admitting that he's never held one or shot one. For folks who don't have $1,000 bucks laying around to drop on a decent AR-15, Kel-Tecs are a great alternative, and from my personal experience, a reliable alternative as well.

01-26-2008, 11:47 AM	#19
knightRider Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: you know where Posts: 2,680 Images: 19 Blog Entries: 11	i like my keltec little 32 pistol had some problems feeding but it was the old mag i got with it when i bought it . new mag shoots great __________________ I'm part kalishnakov, part heckler and Koch.