Cocked and Locked

SCGirl · 01-11-2008, 10:30 AM

I am new to the gun world, and was looking at a 1911. Someone said to me, you have to carry the pistol, cocked and locked.

Ok, that means one in the barrel, hammer cocked, and the safety on? I was too embarrassed to ask them what it meant.

damage855 · 01-11-2008, 10:38 AM

yes and no.

you can carry with the chamber empty but i wouldn't. some 1911's have a "half cock" position where the chamber is loaded but the hammer is lowered into a locked position where you have to pull the hammer back to fire. my charles daily has this and i ussally keep it that way.

Mooseman684 · 01-11-2008, 10:44 AM

SCGirl... You are correct. Cocked and locked is just that , Round in the Chamber, Hammer Cocked, safety on, holstered and usually a strap between the hammer and frame...still have the grip safety as well for double safe.
As we used to say.."Loaded and locked and ready to rock!"
Rich

SCGirl · 01-11-2008, 10:45 AM

no safety on? is that safe? can the pistol disharge when you are removing from the holster?

toolman · 01-11-2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SCGirl

no safety on? is that safe? can the pistol disharge when you are removing from the holster?

No the safety is engaged. Being able to carry like this makes the 1911 one of the fastest guns around to get into action.

mk70ss · 01-11-2008, 10:52 AM

When the gun is in a "cocked and locked" status, the "locked" part means the safety is on. There shouldn't be any unintentional discharges in this condition when drawing/holstering the gun. The safety will be on, then you must have the grip safety squeezed, and most importantly...finger off the trigger until on target.

SCGirl · 01-11-2008, 12:16 PM

Thanks!!! gonna pick one up this weekend!! I really appreciate all of your help!!!!!

madcratebuilder · 01-12-2008, 04:41 AM

Some 1911's could discharge in the cocked and locked condition if dropped. On older models there is no physical block on the firing pin, even with the safety(s) on. Newer models have a firing pin block tied into the trigger.

jerry · 01-12-2008, 08:55 AM

The guys are right on spot.
Not trying to cut in but here is some eye candy for laypersons terms. (I like pictures

You will love your 1911, I'm sure.

Cocked and Locked by Robert H. Boatman

toolman · 01-12-2008, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry

The guys are right on spot.
Not trying to cut in but here is some eye candy for laypersons terms. (I like pictures

You will love your 1911, I'm sure.
Cocked and Locked by Robert H. Boatman

Excellent!

Mooseman684 · 01-12-2008, 11:54 AM

He Comically tells it like it is with the 1911's...
Rich

BPierce · 01-12-2008, 01:01 PM

In reality, "cocked and Locked" is the safe way to carry a 1911 for police officers and others who carry the gun for protection. The reason is that in a tactical situation you need to be able not only to go from a safe condition to a fire condition but back to safe as well. That is to say the situation changes quickly and you need to be able to respond with the proper weapon condition and even re holster under a high degree of stress.

What you don't want to have to do is to be cocking and uncocking and you don't want to have to try and remember what condition you are in. If the only two conditions you use are "cocked and locked" and ready to fire then your hand on the gun tells you all you need to know. As already said the 1911 goes from safe to fire instantly.

SCGirl · 01-13-2008, 08:05 AM

Put my money down on it yesterday, and will pick it up on Tuesday night. Just wanted to look at it one more time, make sure I was making the right decision, and th price was something that I could afford. Now I will transfer the money, and go back after work and pick it up tuesday night!

jerry · 01-13-2008, 02:46 PM

If your going to handle it in cond 1 mode, just make sure you practice alot.

SCGirl · 01-14-2008, 03:23 PM

thanks jerry! ( like the name, my brother and father are Jerry too)

neophyte · 01-14-2008, 08:43 PM

SCGirl: Ma'am; we is gonna need pictures. Along with Range reports.

01-11-2008, 10:30 AM	#1
SCGirl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 283	Cocked and Locked I am new to the gun world, and was looking at a 1911. Someone said to me, you have to carry the pistol, cocked and locked. Ok, that means one in the barrel, hammer cocked, and the safety on? I was too embarrassed to ask them what it meant.

01-11-2008, 10:38 AM	#2
damage855 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Carolina / Lake Norman Posts: 928 Blog Entries: 1	yes and no. you can carry with the chamber empty but i wouldn't. some 1911's have a "half cock" position where the chamber is loaded but the hammer is lowered into a locked position where you have to pull the hammer back to fire. my charles daily has this and i ussally keep it that way. __________________ If total goverment control will make us all safer, then why are prisons so dangerous?

01-11-2008, 10:44 AM	#3
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	SCGirl... You are correct. Cocked and locked is just that , Round in the Chamber, Hammer Cocked, safety on, holstered and usually a strap between the hammer and frame...still have the grip safety as well for double safe. As we used to say.."Loaded and locked and ready to rock!" Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-11-2008, 10:52 AM	#6
mk70ss Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mass Posts: 69	When the gun is in a "cocked and locked" status, the "locked" part means the safety is on. There shouldn't be any unintentional discharges in this condition when drawing/holstering the gun. The safety will be on, then you must have the grip safety squeezed, and most importantly...finger off the trigger until on target. __________________ Life is a contact sport, play hard.

01-12-2008, 04:41 AM	#8
madcratebuilder Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northern Orygun Posts: 583	Some 1911's could discharge in the cocked and locked condition if dropped. On older models there is no physical block on the firing pin, even with the safety(s) on. Newer models have a firing pin block tied into the trigger. __________________ The difference between a hot dog and a weenie is a fine line.....

01-11-2008, 10:45 AM	#4
SCGirl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 283	no safety on? is that safe? can the pistol disharge when you are removing from the holster?

01-11-2008, 12:16 PM	#7
SCGirl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 283	Thanks!!! gonna pick one up this weekend!! I really appreciate all of your help!!!!!

01-12-2008, 08:55 AM	#9
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,875 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	The guys are right on spot. Not trying to cut in but here is some eye candy for laypersons terms. (I like pictures You will love your 1911, I'm sure. Cocked and Locked by Robert H. Boatman __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

01-12-2008, 11:54 AM	#11
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	He Comically tells it like it is with the 1911's... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-12-2008, 01:01 PM	#12
BPierce Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Minnesota (Becker County) Posts: 148	The safest way In reality, "cocked and Locked" is the safe way to carry a 1911 for police officers and others who carry the gun for protection. The reason is that in a tactical situation you need to be able not only to go from a safe condition to a fire condition but back to safe as well. That is to say the situation changes quickly and you need to be able to respond with the proper weapon condition and even re holster under a high degree of stress. What you don't want to have to do is to be cocking and uncocking and you don't want to have to try and remember what condition you are in. If the only two conditions you use are "cocked and locked" and ready to fire then your hand on the gun tells you all you need to know. As already said the 1911 goes from safe to fire instantly.

01-13-2008, 08:05 AM	#13
SCGirl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 283	Put my money down on it yesterday, and will pick it up on Tuesday night. Just wanted to look at it one more time, make sure I was making the right decision, and th price was something that I could afford. Now I will transfer the money, and go back after work and pick it up tuesday night!

01-13-2008, 02:46 PM	#14
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,875 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	If your going to handle it in cond 1 mode, just make sure you practice alot. __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

01-14-2008, 03:23 PM	#15
SCGirl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lexington, SC Posts: 283	thanks jerry! ( like the name, my brother and father are Jerry too)

01-14-2008, 08:43 PM	#16
neophyte Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 3,539 Blog Entries: 2	pictures SCGirl: Ma'am; we is gonna need pictures. Along with Range reports. __________________ Craig By the standards of most