Double taps

[eddiedeverell]

Dumb question, I really stink at double taps! Does anyone have a certain way of performing these? I always find that my first shot is dead on than my next is off the charts somewhere.

[neophyte]

eddiedeverell: Sir; something that take practice.
When you pull the trigger initially catch the trigger just before reset.
Kinda hard to explain: catching at reset with your finger not your hand. Very hard to do with some double action revolvers.
does this make sense?

[GlockMeister]

What are you trying to dbl. tap with? If it is a standard round, get yourself some snap caps and practice with those? Just an ideer as A.H. would say.

G-Meister

[just_a_car]

It may be that the caliber of weapon, type of ammo, or the firearm itself has too much recoil for you to be able to perform a proper double-tap.

First thing to get out is:

• What kind of firearm (including length of barrel, make, model, etc)
• What caliber
• What kind of ammo are you using (including specific grain weight of bullet and if it's a +p, +p+, magnum, etc)

Any of these could be the culprit. Being able to double tap without much training requires a gun with a light'ish recoil. I'm pretty sure with training that anyone can double tap with almost any gun (save for things like .44mag and the like).

[eddiedeverell]

Thanks guys, I was using an XD40, speer 155gr.

[neophyte]

eddiedeverell: Sir; the XD can perform double tap.
I double 638-GP100 and my Glocks.
Catching the return; is the key.
I haven't ever tried snap caps.
Don't see quite how that would work.
The unit needs to be able to reset.

This old dawg can be taught new tricks; so when I'm wrong; I want to learn proper

Thanks

[eddiedeverell]

Neophyt, I was looking at the Ruger GP100 4" 357, how do you like it? I love that gun, good price as well! Whats the price of 38 special/357 going for?

[neophyte]

Sir; I wouldn't trade my GP100 4" for anything.
It is a joy. .38's Monday of this week $25.00 per 100 WW
You will enjoy the GP with any of the .357's big boomers. The firearm will stand the pressure; some shooters
It is my winter carry, already holstered; just waiting for me to go.
Sir; my assortment is broad; from Glocks SW, Ruger; GP just right.

[ArkansasHunter]

From now own I'm gonna say Id'ie !!!

[neophyte]

A.H.: Sir; Help. ?Id'ie?
I messed about with the letters and I know my mess aint close

[samuel]

Originally Posted by GlockMeister

What are you trying to dbl. tap with? If it is a standard round, get yourself some snap caps and practice with those? Just an ideer as A.H. would say.

G-Meister

How would you doubletap with snapcaps?Are they loaded? sam.

[eddiedeverell]

I like the look and feel of it,I cant afford the S&W 686, and to tell you the truth I read that the ruger is just as good.

[Windwalker]

Neophyte, id'ie is just another word for ideer. This is just clearly spoken language in Arkansas and Oklahoma.Hope weuns didn't confuse ya'll.lol

[neophyte]

Windwalker; Fellow; I wasn't even close
Same as idea; Makes all the sense in the world

[Dale]

Most people assume the double tap is to be executed in very rapid fire sequence.

Although that might be true to some extent another part of the execution is two controlled head shots.

Sometimes that means taking slightly longer to acquire your target than firing two very quick shots in the general direction.

Practice acquiring a sight picture on the target between shots and then work on the speed/time between shots.

[just_a_car]

I do my double-taps in what I think is called an "Armor-defeating drill":

Two quick shots center mass and then take an extra moment to get a good shot dead-center in the head.

The first two will at least knock the wind out of someone wearing body armor and the third shot will certainly kill them if made properly.

I do that drill with my 'baby-GLOCK' G27 in .40S&W that has Pearce +1 grip extensions and Heinie Straight Eight night sights. I practice with either my carry ammo (Winchester Ranger SXT® 165gr) or plinking ammo (Winchester White Box 165gr).

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by samuel

How would you doubletap with snapcaps?Are they loaded? sam.

um no, snap caps are not loaded,lol but you can manipulate the trigger with them and without live ammo, to practice can't you? And a dbl tap is done with and by manipulating the trigger isn't it? I guess it would also matter which firearm it is done with? Thus the reason I also asked what they were trying to do it with.

Sure, loaded ammo will go bang, but it is the spring/s in the trigger that put them back to firing position, not the ammo going bang. I mean a revolver for instance, the trigger isn't reset from the ammo going off is it? Isn't it the spring in the trigger control group that assists in that, not the ammo? A gun can go bang and I could essentially still hold the trigger down with no results right? Especially with a revolver? Again why I asked what type of gun they were trying it with? But semi autos do nothing when you hold the trigger down. Although holding the trigger down after firing it and the ammo going off will assist in ejection and re-loading but if you're still holding the trigger down it doesn't automatically go bang again unless it is a full auto. I'm sure a dbl tap is enhanced with loaded ammo.

Personally, I've never done it. So I just might be wrong. I was merely offering suggestions as to how to maybe practice without wasting ammo or trying to do so with live ammo and maybe injuring ones self or someone else in the process. Again, if it can't be practiced with snap caps, and a dbl tap isn't done by manipulating the trigger, then my bad, and I apologize for misunderstanding.

G-Meister

[neophyte]

Glockmiester: Sir; my knee jerk slathering led me to think Semi's. My bad sir.
Semi will not reset.

[just_a_car]

Originally Posted by neophyte

Glockmiester: Sir; my knee jerk slathering led me to think Semi's. My bad sir.
Semi will not reset.

Not entirely true. The GLOCK models have what is called a "quick reset trigger", where once the trigger is pulled to full-rear and the slide goes rearward and forward again, the trigger must only go a fraction of the distance to "cocked" to reset and fire again.

Watch this video of a G22 disassembly and see how, after the gun is assembled, he tests the quick reset trigger. For those that don't want to watch all of it (it's fascinating to me and to most GLOCK owners, I'd imagine) the quick reset trigger is demonstrated at timestamp 6:30.

[GlockMeister]

Originally Posted by neophyte

Glockmiester: Sir; my knee jerk slathering led me to think Semi's. My bad sir.
Semi will not reset.

Don't fret over it Neo. Taint nothing but a thing.This is how we all learn. Myself especially.

G-Meister