Kel-Tec Firearms

two-70 · 02-11-2008, 09:49 PM

Was looking at some of these guns and thought about maybe buying one till i saw a question under there question and answer page.

Q :What is the expected life of a Kel-Tec firearm A : All Kel-Tec firearms have an expected life of 6,000 rounds or more.

Does not sound like a gun to be shot a lot.

ArkansasHunter · 02-11-2008, 09:56 PM

two-70 the KelTec's are excellent back up guns or a very concealable firearm.
I would never use one for plinking or target shooting anyway.
I want one for my main concealed weapon...I like'em !...A.H

evilblackrifle · 02-12-2008, 02:47 AM

The Keltecs (depending on what model) are guns that you don't shoot a lot. Like ArkansasHunter says, they are carried as back-up or deep concealment. The smaller guns aren't very enjoyable to shoot a whole lot of ammo through - you shoot enough so you can practice and learn how to be good with it when needed. 6,000 rounds sounds like a lot.

GlockMeister · 02-12-2008, 02:52 AM

And they aren't that expensive either are they?

SwedeSteve · 02-12-2008, 05:04 AM

Inexpensive backup guns, what me Dear 'Ol Dad used to call a "Belly Gun".

cruzerbotz · 02-12-2008, 06:32 PM

Had a Keltec 380 and didn't like it. Just didn't like the way it felt. Have seen photos of the new Ruger LCP, which looks a lot like the Keltec. But, appears it might "hold" more comfortably. So, might try it. Right now, I use a Guardian 380.

two-70 · 02-12-2008, 08:16 PM

i am leaning tward the new Ruger 380

aht_six · 02-12-2008, 09:15 PM

I really like my P3AT and I haven't had any problems with it all. I'm impressed with how accurate the little thing is. Some do find the recoil objectionable but I don't mind shooting it at all.

The Ruger looks to be very similar to the Kel-Tec, I'm interested in seeing the real thing.

evilblackrifle · 02-13-2008, 02:42 AM

Yep, I'm thinking about getting one of those Ruger LCP's too.

EarlSr · 03-31-2009, 09:33 AM

I fired my Kel-Tec for the first time yesterday. I like the accuracy and it's easy to conceal. I did have trouble getting the magazine to eject every time I emptied it (had to pull it out but it didn't take much to do that). The back of the pistol grip is a little rough and bites in to the hand with prolonged shooting but a conceal carry weapon isn't usually meant for long drawn out firefights.
I like the pistol and will continue to carry it.

Todd Bayliss · 03-31-2009, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by EarlSr

I fired my Kel-Tec for the first time yesterday. I like the accuracy and it's easy to conceal. I did have trouble getting the magazine to eject every time I emptied it (had to pull it out but it didn't take much to do that). The back of the pistol grip is a little rough and bites in to the hand with prolonged shooting but a conceal carry weapon isn't usually meant for long drawn out firefights.
I like the pistol and will continue to carry it.

I haven't had a problem with mine, but here's a link to some folks who have had this trouble.
KTOG Forum - PF-9 MAG Release question/help

Going over the serrations gently with a piece of 600 grit sandpaper will take the sharpness off of them. I also trimmed the casting flash off of mine which made it more comfortable to carry IWB.

As to the 6000 round limit, its just a number. If you have any problems you can send it back to Keltec and they'll fix you up. They will go so far as to make a new gun with the old serial number.

BaserRonin · 03-31-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by daddyo

If you have any problems you can send it back to Keltec and they'll fix you up. They will go so far as to make a new gun with the old serial number.

If that is true I may pick one up myself. I have not heard anything on their warranty, one way or the other. I had been considering picking up a slim one for a carry piece for a while, but the 6k thing threw me off. I had an Astra wear out on me right as I was getting real comfortable with it and didn't want to go through the heartache of another carry piece crapping out.

KW Gary M · 03-31-2009, 12:53 PM

I have, and carry, a P3AT and love it. Not sure I would want to shoot 6,000 rounds through it. After 50 rounds I'm happy, 100 rounds I start to get sore and 200 + rounds my hand is covered in blood.

Todd Bayliss · 03-31-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KW Gary M

I have, and carry, a P3AT and love it. Not sure I would want to shoot 6,000 rounds through it. After 50 rounds I'm happy, 100 rounds I start to get sore and 200 + rounds my hand is covered in blood.

I heard that! My wife has a P32 which is the same size as the 3AT. I can't imagine shooting a snappy .380 out of it. I feel like I need surgical instruments to shoot hers it's so small.

I haven't personally needed to partake of Keltec's warranty with any of my 3 babies, but basically they have an unconditional lifetime warranty that they actually honor. A guy on KTOG.org recently called them because he had put several thousand rounds through his SU16 and thought the buffer spring might be getting weak. He wasn't having any trouble, just thought it would be a good idea to change it. They sent him a new one and an extra firing pin.

KW Gary M · 04-02-2009, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HDRDER

In Caliporna you can't even buy a Kel hand gun, only the rifles! But you can get a Kahr....I looked into them for a long time ( meaning Kahr ) I would never buy one! I have heard nothing but many and I mean lots < of problems with them.

I don't need a gun for CCW with any problems at all! I went with the trusted S&W J frame 642 .....it will do what you need any gun for with the right ammo! Just my 2

Check out a Springfield XD Subcompact. Not as costly as a Karh and a great gun. I have over 7,000 rounds through mine and not a single issue.

HDRDER · 04-02-2009, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KW Gary M

Check out a Springfield XD Subcompact. Not as costly as a Karh and a great gun. I have over 7,000 rounds through mine and not a single issue.

Thanks.....I own one

Big Dog · 04-03-2009, 09:31 AM

I have never found a Kel-Tec handgun that I would trust my life to.
Those I have handled and shot have very stiff triggers, not conducive to accurate shooting, sights are insufficient (though okay for a 'belly-blaster), and I have personally witnessed TWO of them have critical failures at the range, both wre 'back-ups' carried by TPD officers. They replaced them with another brand of pistol.
I do not ascribe to the idea of a pistol having a limited life-span, measured in less than 10K rounds fired. I doubt I will ever shoot that much through any single gun - but I like to know I CAN.

conanld · 04-05-2009, 07:33 PM

It's funny how opinions can vary so much on these guns. The three Kel-tecs I have used have never missed a beat, and have been very accurate for me. The 9mm did have a stiff, but nevertheless smooth trigger. I have had no problems with it.

One of my shooting buddies hated the Kel-Tec 9mm, but he did like the .32.

I love shooting the Kel-Tec .32. I expected it to have an effective hit range of only 15 to 20 feet, but I was amazed that I could hit small plastic bottles at 25 yards with it almost as well as I could with my full sized pistols. It points very well.

LD

ArkansasHunter · 04-05-2009, 08:04 PM

conanld my son use's a KelTec 32 for his back up and it's a straight shooter.

That Lil 32 sounds like a cannon when you shoot it...It's LOUD !!!!

conanld · 04-05-2009, 08:22 PM

Very true - it is pretty loud for only being a .32, but it still makes a little less racket than say a 9mm would. It's probably the shorter barrel that accounts for the extra noise.

A full metal jacket .32 round will penetrate remarkedly well too, even with the short barrel. Reliable expansion on a .32 hollowpoint in the short barreled Kel-Tec is pretty tough to come by though.

It's too bad .32 ammo is so expensive, or I would take it to the range more often than I do.

LD

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

conanld my son use's a KelTec 32 for his back up and it's a straight shooter.

That Lil 32 sounds like a cannon when you shoot it...It's LOUD !!!!

02-11-2008, 09:49 PM	#1
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,783	Kel-Tec Firearms Was looking at some of these guns and thought about maybe buying one till i saw a question under there question and answer page. Q :What is the expected life of a Kel-Tec firearm A : All Kel-Tec firearms have an expected life of 6,000 rounds or more. Does not sound like a gun to be shot a lot. __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

02-11-2008, 09:56 PM	#2
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,211	two-70 the KelTec's are excellent back up guns or a very concealable firearm. I would never use one for plinking or target shooting anyway. I want one for my main concealed weapon...I like'em !...A.H __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

02-12-2008, 02:47 AM	#3
evilblackrifle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 194	The Keltecs (depending on what model) are guns that you don't shoot a lot. Like ArkansasHunter says, they are carried as back-up or deep concealment. The smaller guns aren't very enjoyable to shoot a whole lot of ammo through - you shoot enough so you can practice and learn how to be good with it when needed. 6,000 rounds sounds like a lot. __________________ The patriot's blood is the seed of Freedom's tree.

02-12-2008, 02:52 AM	#4
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	And they aren't that expensive either are they? __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

02-12-2008, 05:04 AM	#5
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,549 Images: 1	Inexpensive backup guns, what me Dear 'Ol Dad used to call a "Belly Gun". __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-12-2008, 06:32 PM	#6
cruzerbotz Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 18	Had a Keltec 380 and didn't like it. Just didn't like the way it felt. Have seen photos of the new Ruger LCP, which looks a lot like the Keltec. But, appears it might "hold" more comfortably. So, might try it. Right now, I use a Guardian 380.

02-12-2008, 08:16 PM	#7
two-70 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: ponca city, oklahoma Posts: 1,783	i am leaning tward the new Ruger 380 __________________ What Would Jesus Do ????? Just Ask Him.

02-12-2008, 09:15 PM	#8
aht_six Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ham Lake, Minnesota Posts: 62	I really like my P3AT and I haven't had any problems with it all. I'm impressed with how accurate the little thing is. Some do find the recoil objectionable but I don't mind shooting it at all. The Ruger looks to be very similar to the Kel-Tec, I'm interested in seeing the real thing.

02-13-2008, 02:42 AM	#9
evilblackrifle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 194	Yep, I'm thinking about getting one of those Ruger LCP's too. __________________ The patriot's blood is the seed of Freedom's tree.

03-31-2009, 09:33 AM	#10
EarlSr Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Kel-Tec PF-9 I fired my Kel-Tec for the first time yesterday. I like the accuracy and it's easy to conceal. I did have trouble getting the magazine to eject every time I emptied it (had to pull it out but it didn't take much to do that). The back of the pistol grip is a little rough and bites in to the hand with prolonged shooting but a conceal carry weapon isn't usually meant for long drawn out firefights. I like the pistol and will continue to carry it.

03-31-2009, 12:53 PM	#13
KW Gary M Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Key West Florida Posts: 4,604 Blog Entries: 1	I have, and carry, a P3AT and love it. Not sure I would want to shoot 6,000 rounds through it. After 50 rounds I'm happy, 100 rounds I start to get sore and 200 + rounds my hand is covered in blood. __________________ To Say Guns Kill People Is To Say Automobiles Drive Drunk and Matches Commit Arson.

04-03-2009, 09:31 AM	#17
Big Dog Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 12,906	I have never found a Kel-Tec handgun that I would trust my life to. Those I have handled and shot have very stiff triggers, not conducive to accurate shooting, sights are insufficient (though okay for a 'belly-blaster), and I have personally witnessed TWO of them have critical failures at the range, both wre 'back-ups' carried by TPD officers. They replaced them with another brand of pistol. I do not ascribe to the idea of a pistol having a limited life-span, measured in less than 10K rounds fired. I doubt I will ever shoot that much through any single gun - but I like to know I CAN. __________________ "A bold spirit embiggens the smallest man!" Jebediah Springfield

04-05-2009, 07:33 PM	#18
conanld Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Snoqualmie WA Posts: 115	It's funny how opinions can vary so much on these guns. The three Kel-tecs I have used have never missed a beat, and have been very accurate for me. The 9mm did have a stiff, but nevertheless smooth trigger. I have had no problems with it. One of my shooting buddies hated the Kel-Tec 9mm, but he did like the .32. I love shooting the Kel-Tec .32. I expected it to have an effective hit range of only 15 to 20 feet, but I was amazed that I could hit small plastic bottles at 25 yards with it almost as well as I could with my full sized pistols. It points very well. LD

04-05-2009, 08:04 PM	#19
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 17,211	conanld my son use's a KelTec 32 for his back up and it's a straight shooter. That Lil 32 sounds like a cannon when you shoot it...It's LOUD !!!! __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER