Makarov

wigmaster0 · 07-21-2008, 01:12 PM

Not so long ago I found 380 barrels for the Makarov but I can't seem to find one now. I know the 9.18 is more powerful but the cost is also more powerful at knocking a hole in my wallet. Any ideas on where I can procure a 380 barrel?

KW Gary M · 07-21-2008, 01:39 PM

Have you tried Impact Guns or Cheaper Than Dirt?

rondog · 07-21-2008, 04:25 PM

Since I have thousands of 9mm Luger cases, I'm gearing up to start trimming a couple thou down for 9x18mak duty. They're only 1mm longer than the 9x18mak, dies are available and so are bullets, but the bullets are .363, I believe, slightly larger than 9mm. The cases will be a tad small at first, until they're fired and they fire-form to the chamber. After that, they'll load just like 9x18mak brass.

I have threads on this and several other gun sites about doing this, and it seems to be pretty common.I don't like the Russian ammo, and I'm too cheap to buy new 9x18 brass. The biggest issue seems to be the "9mm Luger" headstamp on the cases, and getting your trimmed brass mixed up with regular 9mm brass. I plan to rough my headstamps up with sandpaper, then paint 'em with a red Magic Marker to ID them.

K75RT · 07-21-2008, 04:36 PM

wiggy,
Try here they have both .380 and 9x18...
Makarov Pistol Original Barrels*|*e-GunParts.com

rondog · 07-21-2008, 04:56 PM

What I have is a FEG PA-63, like many other members here. Does anybody make a .380 barrel for those?

stalebiscuit · 07-22-2008, 04:02 PM

why would you want a .380 barrel for it

the 9x18 is perfect if you ask me

wigmaster0 · 07-22-2008, 05:27 PM

.380 ammo is cheaper than 9.18 in my neck of the woods.

stalebiscuit · 07-22-2008, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wigmaster0

.380 ammo is cheaper than 9.18 in my neck of the woods.

really? 9x18 is cheaper for me

especially if you buy in bulk and surplus

rondog · 07-22-2008, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

why would you want a .380 barrel for it

the 9x18 is perfect if you ask me

No, the .45 acp is perfect!

Just wondering about the .380 barrel, doesn't matter because I'm going to cut down a buttload of 9mm Luger cases into 9x18's. Just have to shorten 'em by 1mm.

stalebiscuit · 07-22-2008, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondog

No, the .45 acp is perfect!

Just wondering about the .380 barrel, doesn't matter because I'm going to cut down a buttload of 9mm Luger cases into 9x18's. Just have to shorten 'em by 1mm.

just use 9x18 cases

rondog · 07-22-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

just use 9x18 cases

Those aren't just laying around, and I'm not about to buy any when I have 5000 9mm cases that I've picked up. Brass 9x18 cases are very rare to find, most of 'em are steel, unless you buy new cases.

stalebiscuit · 07-22-2008, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rondog

Those aren't just laying around, and I'm not about to buy any when I have 5000 9mm cases that I've picked up. Brass 9x18 cases are very rare to find, most of 'em are steel, unless you buy new cases.

well....just be careful

Cyrano · 07-22-2008, 06:55 PM

Please put up a report on how your 9x19 cases timmed to 9x18 Makarov cases work. That would be worth reloading for. I can get the real thing (commercial production) hereabouts for what I'd pay in quantity, but if I had the chance to fine-tune a load...

rondog · 07-22-2008, 07:06 PM

I've started threads here, and on 3 other forums, asking about it. It's very commonly done, it's even mentioned in a reloading manual someone said. The cases are nearly the same, except for length, and the Mak bullets are slightly larger at .363, so you have to get the right bullets, not 9mm or .380.

I'm told that once they're trimmed, you load them like regular 9x18's, but the case will be slightly undersized, and the bullet will bulge the top of the case ever so slightly. When fired, they'll fireform to the chamber and will then be just like 9x18's except for the 9mm Luger on the headstamp. I plan on roughing that up with sandpaper and painting it with a red Magic Marker so I can tell them apart from regular 9mm's.

My reloading stuff is all in storage for a couple of months, so I won't get to try it for awhile. I did buy a case trimmer, and it only took a few seconds to cut one down. Already have the dies, bullets and everything, just gotta get a new bench built and setup in the basement instead of the garage.

KW Gary M · 07-22-2008, 09:43 PM

Makarov is a great round but tough to find ammunition and costly when you do find it.

stalebiscuit · 07-22-2008, 10:25 PM

this is the first place i have heard from other people that makarov ammo is though to find and expensive

yall just are looking in the wrong places

KW Gary M · 07-22-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stalebiscuit

this is the first place i have heard from other people that makarov ammo is though to find and expensive

yall just are looking in the wrong places

You can get it reasonably priced at Cheaper Than Dirt but their shipping is high. I'll just stick with a regular everyday 9MM myself. Never a shortage of ammo and available at WalMart.

07-21-2008, 01:12 PM	#1
wigmaster0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 137	Makarov Not so long ago I found 380 barrels for the Makarov but I can't seem to find one now. I know the 9.18 is more powerful but the cost is also more powerful at knocking a hole in my wallet. Any ideas on where I can procure a 380 barrel?

07-21-2008, 01:39 PM	#2
KW Gary M Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Key West Florida Posts: 1,267 Blog Entries: 1	Have you tried Impact Guns or Cheaper Than Dirt? __________________ To Say Guns Kill People Is To Say Automobiles Drive Drunk and Matches Commit Arson.

07-21-2008, 04:25 PM	#3
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,321	Since I have thousands of 9mm Luger cases, I'm gearing up to start trimming a couple thou down for 9x18mak duty. They're only 1mm longer than the 9x18mak, dies are available and so are bullets, but the bullets are .363, I believe, slightly larger than 9mm. The cases will be a tad small at first, until they're fired and they fire-form to the chamber. After that, they'll load just like 9x18mak brass. I have threads on this and several other gun sites about doing this, and it seems to be pretty common.I don't like the Russian ammo, and I'm too cheap to buy new 9x18 brass. The biggest issue seems to be the "9mm Luger" headstamp on the cases, and getting your trimmed brass mixed up with regular 9mm brass. I plan to rough my headstamps up with sandpaper, then paint 'em with a red Magic Marker to ID them. __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

07-21-2008, 04:56 PM	#5
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,321	What I have is a FEG PA-63, like many other members here. Does anybody make a .380 barrel for those? __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

07-22-2008, 05:27 PM	#7
wigmaster0 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon Posts: 137	It's an ammo cost thing. .380 ammo is cheaper than 9.18 in my neck of the woods.

07-21-2008, 04:36 PM	#4
K75RT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 325	wiggy, Try here they have both .380 and 9x18... Makarov Pistol Original Barrels\|e-GunParts.com

07-22-2008, 04:02 PM	#6
stalebiscuit Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: atlanta, but much rather be in valdosta Posts: 1,560	why would you want a .380 barrel for it the 9x18 is perfect if you ask me

07-22-2008, 06:55 PM	#13
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 2,286	Please put up a report on how your 9x19 cases timmed to 9x18 Makarov cases work. That would be worth reloading for. I can get the real thing (commercial production) hereabouts for what I'd pay in quantity, but if I had the chance to fine-tune a load...

07-22-2008, 07:06 PM	#14
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 1,321	I've started threads here, and on 3 other forums, asking about it. It's very commonly done, it's even mentioned in a reloading manual someone said. The cases are nearly the same, except for length, and the Mak bullets are slightly larger at .363, so you have to get the right bullets, not 9mm or .380. I'm told that once they're trimmed, you load them like regular 9x18's, but the case will be slightly undersized, and the bullet will bulge the top of the case ever so slightly. When fired, they'll fireform to the chamber and will then be just like 9x18's except for the 9mm Luger on the headstamp. I plan on roughing that up with sandpaper and painting it with a red Magic Marker so I can tell them apart from regular 9mm's. My reloading stuff is all in storage for a couple of months, so I won't get to try it for awhile. I did buy a case trimmer, and it only took a few seconds to cut one down. Already have the dies, bullets and everything, just gotta get a new bench built and setup in the basement instead of the garage. __________________ What she doesn't know about, doesn't piss her off.....

07-22-2008, 09:43 PM	#15
KW Gary M Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Key West Florida Posts: 1,267 Blog Entries: 1	Makarov is a great round but tough to find ammunition and costly when you do find it. __________________ To Say Guns Kill People Is To Say Automobiles Drive Drunk and Matches Commit Arson.

07-22-2008, 10:25 PM	#16
stalebiscuit Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: atlanta, but much rather be in valdosta Posts: 1,560	this is the first place i have heard from other people that makarov ammo is though to find and expensive yall just are looking in the wrong places