Revolver Accident

Whootsinator · 10-28-2009, 05:15 PM

What in the hell happened here?

YouTube - Chick almost shoots herself!!!

HEMI · 10-28-2009, 05:48 PM

Idiots giving untrained girls big guns, stupid.

Kentucky Fan · 10-28-2009, 06:10 PM

People like that give responsible gun owners a bad name.

Whootsinator · 10-28-2009, 07:40 PM

No, I mean, physically, what in the hell happened that allowed the revolver to flip completely around to face the user, then fire again? I don't even see how that works.

TACAV · 10-28-2009, 07:45 PM

I hate it when people do stupid crap like this, besides all of the safety issues with it thats one sure way to not ever get the new shooter to want to keep on shooting.

Whenever i have someone shoot a firearm for the first time when its finally time to get to the actual live rounds whether its an autoloader, revolver, ar15 anything... I just load ONE round in the magazine/cylinder and stand with them as they do it to make sure everything is done correctly and safely.

That way when/if the novice screams, drops the gun, gets startled, loses control of the firearm from recoil, forgets rule #2 about pointing in a safe direction, etc. at least the firearm is empty.

Whootsinator · 10-28-2009, 07:49 PM

I do the same, TAC. I've been taught that from day one when I started.

dog party · 10-28-2009, 08:45 PM

Physically, I'm going to guess she pulled the trigger for the first round and then let off just enough for the trigger to reset. Then, as the muzzle was flipping back at her, she squeezed her hand tight to keep from dropping the gun, which would typically make the trigger finger also contract, firing another round.

She's lucky she didn't do it a third time. The second round fired straight up in the air which caused the muzzle to flip down. At about the time a third round might have accidentally been fired, the muzzle is pointed straight at her leg.

The one-round rule is ESSENTIAL to first-time shooters. And also to first-time shooters of larger caliber round than they have practiced with before. That woman might be well practiced with a .22LR or 9MM, but obviously has no business having two rounds loaded in a larger caliber handgun.

G. Green · 10-28-2009, 08:55 PM

Appears to be a classic case of "My boyfriend is a dumbass". The boyfriend wasn't trying to accomplish anything firearms wise, he was just showing her what big strong dumbass he is. Don't know if he succeded in the first two, but I believe he nailed the dumbass part.

KW Gary M · 10-28-2009, 09:05 PM

My first thought is "What Caliber was that gun?" It looked pretty big. First time shooters should have a .22 or if a larger person maybe a 9MM or .38 special but never anything bigger until they have fired a few rounds.

rondog · 10-28-2009, 09:07 PM

I don't know, it looks to me like one shot instead of two. If it fired a second time pointed up like that, it probably would have jumped right out of her hand. I'm probably wrong, but it just looks like one shot to me.

But still, the stupidity factor remains very high.

CoachSuper · 10-28-2009, 09:43 PM

Once, I was at the range shooting my .357 single action revolver.

I forgot to take my finger off of the trigger as I pulled the hammer back with my thumb. As I pulled the hammer my finger applied pressure on the trigger. What happened is two quick shots. Of course, my gun was on target down range. And, it wasn't a gun I couldn't easily handle.

I wouldn't "force" some smallish unwilling female to shoot a .50 cal revolver. Mostly, because I'd be afraid she would shoot me accidentally!

CS

CoachSuper · 10-28-2009, 09:57 PM

This may be off topic.

But a proud moment...

My 8 yo son went with me to shop some hand guns at my local hardware/sporting goods store.

I noticed a older woman and a 10 yo were talking with the salesman at the gun counter.

I overheard that she was looking to buy a hand gun as a present for her son ( I assume the kid was her grandson).

I went to looking at some revolvers with my boy. Suddenly, my son was horrified. My son was taught proper handling of a firearm.

He saw the 10 yo boy waving around a .45 semi auto in the store acting like it was a toy, making sound effects and all. The salesman also looked horrified.

Moral... It all comes down to teaching the right ways to safely handle firearms.

CS

wcassidy · 10-28-2009, 11:14 PM

i'd say someone didn't lock their wrist and/or elbow against the recoil

Metronome · 10-28-2009, 11:44 PM

Yep, shooting those big revolvers can lead to some people 'double-tapping' on the trigger. A friend who has the .460 S&W loads every other chamber because new people are prone to doing such a thing.

deadzero · 10-28-2009, 11:53 PM

only one round was fired and the gun stood straight up on her. at this point she lost her grip and had only one hand holding it. then the gun went level with the sights at 9 o' clock then the weight of the gun was too much for her to hold one handed and she relaxed her wrist pointing it toward the ground. the hammer was cocked on the first round and no double action pull occured after the first shot. the secondary smoke came from the flash gap between the cylinder and barrel when the round fired.

simply stated: stupid boyfriend.

Midas · 10-28-2009, 11:53 PM

Not cool at all, somebody could be killed, it's not funny to hand inexperienced shooters hard recoiling guns the first time, bad things can happen.

Ticks me off every time I see something like this.

rondog · 10-29-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by deadzero

only one round was fired and the gun stood straight up on her. at this point she lost her grip and had only one hand holding it. then the gun went level with the sights at 9 o' clock then the weight of the gun was too much for her to hold one handed and she relaxed her wrist pointing it toward the ground. the hammer was cocked on the first round and no double action pull occured after the first shot. the secondary smoke came from the flash gap between the cylinder and barrel when the round fired.

simply stated: stupid boyfriend.

That's what I was thinking too. If it had fired twice, the gun would have exited her grip with great gusto. JMHO.

Iron_Colonel · 10-29-2009, 12:09 AM

I agree with Midas and TAC. This also really emphasizes the safety aspect of shooting. She is very lucky she didn't injure or kill herself, or the other people around her. I think it is unacceptable that they start laughing at what happened. She definitely appeared to be an inexperienced shooter, so it would have been prudent to load only round as previously stated so she could get used to the recoil. At any rate, it was undoubtedly a very powerful handgun, and poor choice to let an apparently inexperienced shooter shoot it. It looks like it was a freak occurrance that was caused by the recoil and her finger position as the pistol recoiled upward. She's lucky the barrel didn't rotate from the recoil farther towards her face.

Kaybe · 10-29-2009, 01:00 AM

That was just scary. That could have ended so badly. The jerk of a boyfriend would not be laughing if she had shot herself. Guys like that should be horse whipped.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 10-29-2009, 01:00 AM

I hate these videos. Makes me so angry.

10-28-2009, 07:40 PM	#4
Whootsinator Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 582	No, I mean, physically, what in the hell happened that allowed the revolver to flip completely around to face the user, then fire again? I don't even see how that works.
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10-28-2009, 07:45 PM	#5
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,537	I hate it when people do stupid crap like this, besides all of the safety issues with it thats one sure way to not ever get the new shooter to want to keep on shooting. Whenever i have someone shoot a firearm for the first time when its finally time to get to the actual live rounds whether its an autoloader, revolver, ar15 anything... I just load *ONE* round in the magazine/cylinder and stand with them as they do it to make sure everything is done correctly and safely. That way when/if the novice screams, drops the gun, gets startled, loses control of the firearm from recoil, forgets rule #2 about pointing in a safe direction, etc. at least the firearm is empty. __________________ Zombies don't hold grudges, discriminate, or negotiate- Neither should you. -The Zen of Zombie-

10-28-2009, 08:45 PM	#7
dog party Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 275	Physically, I'm going to guess she pulled the trigger for the first round and then let off just enough for the trigger to reset. Then, as the muzzle was flipping back at her, she squeezed her hand tight to keep from dropping the gun, which would typically make the trigger finger also contract, firing another round. She's lucky she didn't do it a third time. The second round fired straight up in the air which caused the muzzle to flip down. At about the time a third round might have accidentally been fired, the muzzle is pointed straight at her leg. The one-round rule is ESSENTIAL to first-time shooters. And also to first-time shooters of larger caliber round than they have practiced with before. That woman might be well practiced with a .22LR or 9MM, but obviously has no business having two rounds loaded in a larger caliber handgun.
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10-28-2009, 08:55 PM	#8
G. Green Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NE OK Posts: 464	Appears to be a classic case of "My boyfriend is a dumbass". The boyfriend wasn't trying to accomplish anything firearms wise, he was just showing her what big strong dumbass he is. Don't know if he succeded in the first two, but I believe he nailed the dumbass part.
	1 members found this post helpful.

10-28-2009, 09:05 PM	#9
KW Gary M Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Key West Florida Posts: 4,609 Blog Entries: 1	My first thought is "What Caliber was that gun?" It looked pretty big. First time shooters should have a .22 or if a larger person maybe a 9MM or .38 special but never anything bigger until they have fired a few rounds. __________________ To Say Guns Kill People Is To Say Automobiles Drive Drunk and Matches Commit Arson.
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10-28-2009, 05:48 PM	#2
HEMI Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,180	Idiots giving untrained girls big guns, stupid.

10-28-2009, 06:10 PM	#3
Kentucky Fan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Paintsville Kentucky Posts: 168	People like that give responsible gun owners a bad name.

10-28-2009, 07:49 PM	#6
Whootsinator Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 582	I do the same, TAC. I've been taught that from day one when I started.

10-28-2009, 09:07 PM	#10
rondog Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Parker, CO Posts: 3,296	I don't know, it looks to me like one shot instead of two. If it fired a second time pointed up like that, it probably would have jumped right out of her hand. I'm probably wrong, but it just looks like one shot to me. But still, the stupidity factor remains very high. __________________ I child-proofed my house, but they still keep getting in!

10-28-2009, 09:43 PM	#11
CoachSuper Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Harlingen, Texas Posts: 80	Once, I was at the range shooting my .357 single action revolver. I forgot to take my finger off of the trigger as I pulled the hammer back with my thumb. As I pulled the hammer my finger applied pressure on the trigger. What happened is two quick shots. Of course, my gun was on target down range. And, it wasn't a gun I couldn't easily handle. I wouldn't "force" some smallish unwilling female to shoot a .50 cal revolver. Mostly, because I'd be afraid she would shoot me accidentally! CS
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10-28-2009, 09:57 PM	#12
CoachSuper Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Harlingen, Texas Posts: 80	This may be off topic. But a proud moment... My 8 yo son went with me to shop some hand guns at my local hardware/sporting goods store. I noticed a older woman and a 10 yo were talking with the salesman at the gun counter. I overheard that she was looking to buy a hand gun as a present for her son ( I assume the kid was her grandson). I went to looking at some revolvers with my boy. Suddenly, my son was horrified. My son was taught proper handling of a firearm. He saw the 10 yo boy waving around a .45 semi auto in the store acting like it was a toy, making sound effects and all. The salesman also looked horrified. Moral... It all comes down to teaching the right ways to safely handle firearms. CS
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10-28-2009, 11:14 PM	#13
wcassidy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Connecticut Posts: 285	i'd say someone didn't lock their wrist and/or elbow against the recoil

10-28-2009, 11:44 PM	#14
Metronome Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 951	Yep, shooting those big revolvers can lead to some people 'double-tapping' on the trigger. A friend who has the .460 S&W loads every other chamber because new people are prone to doing such a thing. __________________ I take my coffee how I take my women: bitter and overbearing.
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10-28-2009, 11:53 PM	#15
deadzero Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: deep in the swamps SC Posts: 1,204	only one round was fired and the gun stood straight up on her. at this point she lost her grip and had only one hand holding it. then the gun went level with the sights at 9 o' clock then the weight of the gun was too much for her to hold one handed and she relaxed her wrist pointing it toward the ground. the hammer was cocked on the first round and no double action pull occured after the first shot. the secondary smoke came from the flash gap between the cylinder and barrel when the round fired. simply stated: stupid boyfriend. __________________ If I need more than 1 shot, I need more practice.

10-28-2009, 11:53 PM	#16
Midas Chief Troll B' Gone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 3,571 Images: 2 Blog Entries: 6	Not cool at all, somebody could be killed, it's not funny to hand inexperienced shooters hard recoiling guns the first time, bad things can happen. Ticks me off every time I see something like this. __________________ The Second Amendment: America's Original Homeland Security. NRA Life Member
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10-29-2009, 12:09 AM	#18
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 3,282	I agree with Midas and TAC. This also really emphasizes the safety aspect of shooting. She is very lucky she didn't injure or kill herself, or the other people around her. I think it is unacceptable that they start laughing at what happened. She definitely appeared to be an inexperienced shooter, so it would have been prudent to load only round as previously stated so she could get used to the recoil. At any rate, it was undoubtedly a very powerful handgun, and poor choice to let an apparently inexperienced shooter shoot it. It looks like it was a freak occurrance that was caused by the recoil and her finger position as the pistol recoiled upward. She's lucky the barrel didn't rotate from the recoil farther towards her face. __________________ Mosin Nagant evangelist on a mission to convert YOU! Last edited by Iron_Colonel; 10-29-2009 at 12:15 AM.
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10-29-2009, 01:00 AM	#19
Kaybe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northcentral Ohio Posts: 641	That was just scary. That could have ended so badly. The jerk of a boyfriend would not be laughing if she had shot herself. Guys like that should be horse whipped. __________________ Some people are alive simply because it is illegal to kill them.
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10-29-2009, 01:00 AM	#20
Capt'n Mil Coll Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 3,391 Images: 45	I hate these videos. Makes me so angry. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!