baby glock 26

mc24 · 11-20-2009, 09:20 PM

would this be a good gun for home defense.

TXplt · 11-20-2009, 09:40 PM

and it would be OK. I'd rather have a shotgun, but many situations preclude this. It could do multi-duty as a CCW and home defense gun and is fine when loaded with high performance 9mm hollow point ammunition (gold dot/buffalo bore unicore, hornady crit defense, wichester pdx, golden sabre, Cor-Bon DPX, or anything similar to these).

I'd probably put on the Tru-Glo sights though -- these are fibre optic light tubes with tritium that add alot and are visible in all light conditions.

Glocks are infinitely reliable and mine has been a good gun. While it's primarily geared toward a CCW gun--with some potentially better choices with longer barrels and larger sight radius--it functions fine for a home defense handgun (especially when kept loaded and ready to go in a fast-access safe). It has a 10 +1 capacity as well.

KW Gary M · 11-20-2009, 10:05 PM

If it is soley for home defense I'd go with a larger gun with a longer barrel and more weight. Easier to control and less recoil. Two good points were brought up by TXplt. For just home defense get a shotgun. Also he pointed out that a Baby Glock can double as a CCW if you intend to carry.

My 2 cents is before you buy a Glock of any sort rent one side by side with a XD and M&P. If you want to save some money rent a Glock side by side with a Taurus. I tried the Baby Glock, M&P Compact and XD Subcompact all the same day when deciding on a CCW. I was very turned off by Glock right away. Just didn't shoot well for me. I went back a week later and rented just the XD and M&P and decided the XD was for me. Many people own and love Glocks. I'm just not one of them. They may be a fine gun but I just didn't shoot it well. That is why I would suggest you rent as many as you can and whatever gun shoots best for you is the best gun for you.

mc24 · 11-20-2009, 10:25 PM

i own a smith 9v but it is about 10 yrs old. nothing wrong with it just wanted a new toy. would like to have a xdm but cant afford that and the 26 was cheaper. guess i will just stick with my smith.

pico · 11-20-2009, 11:56 PM

I should add that perhaps a better Glock for home defence would be the full sized type. I am a fan of the Glock 20, and I have the capability to shoot doubletaps equalizer round, which throws two projectiles out at the same time for a double wammy about equal to 2 9mm bullets. With 15 rounds in a mag, that is 30 projectiles. The 20 is now offered in a small frame size, and the 10mm is a much better stopper than the 9mm... not to dissuade you from them.

I should add that perhaps the better way to go if you are married and can only afford the cost of a Glock 26, perhaps look at a pump shotgun and a makarov in 9mmx18. Your spouse can have the mak and you can have the shotgun. That is what I did when I was first married, but her Makarov was in .380.

Ten Man · 11-21-2009, 12:56 AM

I own the G 26 as well as many other Glocks.

The G26 would not be my first pick for a home defense gun, BUT if you want to own a CCW gun, and you are restricted on funds for guns, the G 26 would be able to pull both duties, just fine.

Many advocate using a 12 gauge for Home Defense, and I also have one under the bed. I have to say, though, I go for the Glock before I go for the 12 gauge, when I hear a "bump in the night."

My wife will DEFINITELY NOT go for the 12 gauge. She could use it if she had to, but she has her own Glock that she goes for first, as well.

I find the shot gun too ungainly to work with in the confines of the bedroom, especially in the dark.

There are many advantages to having a small home defense hand gun, IF you can adequately control it. The smaller size makes it much easier to maneuver with, and it would be harder for a Bad Guy to take hold of it from you.

The biggest disadvantage to the G26 is the 9 round capacity. It is better than a 5 or 6 round revolver, but it is a lot less than a G19 or G17 carries.

I won't even get into the Glock versus other "imitators" argument. You already know where I stand on that one.

shooter1 · 11-21-2009, 03:29 AM

Just got it in July. Have owned a glock 22 in 40 cal for 3.5 years. Love both. I don't think you would ever be sorry if you did buy the G26. But it would be wise to shoot the other brands. Ie, XD, M&P.

Shooter

P.S.
I got my Glocks for IDPA comp, the G26 fits the BUG(back-up gun) class and the G22 fits the SSP(stock service pistol) class.

mitchr · 11-22-2009, 12:09 AM

Folks, I have a couple of questions since we're discussing home defense, etc.

1. Concussion from firing some weapons in a confined space which can cause you to lose your equilibrium & make it difficult for a follow-up shot, if needed.

2. The blinding flash from shorter barreled firearms, making it difficult or impossible to see for a follow-up shot.

What is your thinking on this & the solution? I can't imagine the sound of a 12 ga. in the confined space of a hallway or the flash of a 357 snubbie in the dark. Has anyone actually experienced these issues?

TXplt · 11-22-2009, 08:40 AM

I've experienced the flash of a .357 snubbie in low light, but not the blast without at least single hearing protection (including buffalo bore HEAVY .357 Magnum rounds from an SP-101). While the blast from the BB rounds in the snubbie was teeth jarring, I think in a high adrenalin situation it wouldn't have been too hard to work through -- but from a short bbl .357 in a confined space one might well experience permanent hearing damage. In a fight, one would have some degree of auditory exclusion going as well so I think firing the short bbl .357 would be workable through -- the reduced recoil BB rounds have flash suppressed powder which decreases muzzle flash as well and seem like the best compromise for those wishing to use a .357 round out of a snubby--stronger than .38 +P but more managable than full bore .357 (I've shot these from a 340 PD and while painful they aren't as bad as the Cor-Bon 140's or full bore 158 JHP's). My experience is that you could work through the flashes given proper ammo selection.

The most recent experience I remember of shooting without hearing protection was shooting a rabid animal OUTDOORS with a SP-101 stoked with Buffalo Bore .38 Special 158 gr LSWHP +P's. Although I later had a little ringing in the ears I was surprised that I hadn't noticed really anything from the shots themselves and they weren't an issue at all (kindly note that I believe it's not ok to plan to shoot without hearing protection--always use hearing protection if you can).

For indoor use, if it was a snubbie I'd personally go for the +P .38 rounds. I can't see much of an advantage given blast, potential hearing damage, and limited velocity gain for a .357 snubbie.

With the G26 I don't see the aforementioned issues cropping up much. I did notice the Golden Sabres I fired in it the worst for muzzle flash but the others I use (DPX, Double Tap gold dot, Buffalo Bore) were all fine.

TACAV · 11-22-2009, 09:34 AM

Think of your situation and surroundings before you decide on what tool u get for the job. Shotguns make excellent home defense guns but if you dwelling is very small or with tight hallways etc a long gun may not necessarily be the most optimal tool for the job.

Similary if you have a wife or other smaller statured people who might also one day/night have to use it, a big shotgun may not be ideal either.
For these two situations a handgun may very well suit your needs better than a shotgun.

As someone that does building searches quite frequently, just because I have a long gun that I can deploy doesn't necessarily mean its the best option and many times even when I do have it out there are still many times when I have to sling it and switch to my pistol to get around tight places inside.

Remember the situation/mission drives/determines the gear not the other way around.

If you do go with a handgun that is to be used primarily for home defense and not necessarily for concealed carry why not go with a bigger model such as a glock 19 or 17 if you want to stick with the 9mm glocks, Or a compact 4 inch Springfield XD or Smith and Wesson M&P are other good options too.

You will get a longer sight radius, higher capacity, and probably an accessory rail system if u want a light or something on. Whatever you get, get something with night sights.

mitchr · 11-22-2009, 10:32 AM

Temporary hearing loss wouldn't be a problem. But loss of eyesight, even temporarily, could be a real problem if your 1st shot didn't disable or take out the bad guy. That was my main concern. I guess the muzzle flash & noise would be just as bad on the BG as it is on you, but you never know. Right now, I have a choice of 9 mm (17 rd), 4" 1911, Ruger Blackhawk w/long barrel. I had considered getting a short barreled 12 ga, but started thinking about shooting it in close quarters, like a hallway. Have about decided not to go that way. I have a Remington 1100 16 ga if the problem is outside.

ArkansasHunter · 11-22-2009, 10:47 AM

Please no offence. To many times we recommend a shotgun for Home Defence.
Fact is it is an excellent weapon but it should be your 2nd choice with a pistol being your first.
Haveing both is good Insurance.

Now I'm not an expert but I own a 18.5" barrlled pump shotgun in 12ga.
I love this Lil short fire breathing cannon of destruction. I love holding it. I love looking at it and I love takeing it with me just about everywhere I go.

BUT useing your pistol in the home for defence may be the wisest choice because even though these short barrled wonder's in 12ga. have short barrels.
They don't spread the buck shot like you think they do when they leave the barrel.

You can do some serious demolishion to your home LOL Fireing one of these shotguns off in your house !!!! And you might even burn your house down LOL.

Anyway a short barreled shotgun will actually bring you comfort knowing you have one but I would suggest you train yourself with a pistol first and then the shotgun.

My 2 cents

TXplt · 11-22-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mitchr

Temporary hearing loss wouldn't be a problem. But loss of eyesight, even temporarily, could be a real problem if your 1st shot didn't disable or take out the bad guy. That was my main concern. I guess the muzzle flash & noise would be just as bad on the BG as it is on you, but you never know. Right now, I have a choice of 9 mm (17 rd), 4" 1911, Ruger Blackhawk w/long barrel. I had considered getting a short barreled 12 ga, but started thinking about shooting it in close quarters, like a hallway. Have about decided not to go that way. I have a Remington 1100 16 ga if the problem is outside.

As TACAV said, the choice depends totally on your defensive situation and one should get the best tool for the job. For me in most cases for home defense that would be a short barreled shotgun with a flashlight mounted; however, my situation prevents having a shotgun at the ready so's I use a revolver in fast access safes for home defense (SW 325 and Taurus Judge). The blast/flash (although ID'ing your position) I would think would act in your favor because you know it's coming and the BG doesn't (it also alerts neighbors to call the police if that hasn't happened already).

A major advantage of a handgun is its maneuverability as well as leaves the other hand free for a phone or flashlight (you might consider a very bright flashlight by your HD gun for target ID as well as it can temporarily blind an adversary--Stanley makes a HID rechargable spotlight which is the brightest thing I've ever seen for about 70 bucks but it is pretty heavy albeit does have a pistol grip). A handgun can also be loaded and at the ready in a fast access safe, while safely locked up away from exploring hands or a burglar who got to your home before you did. A major disadvantage of a handgun is its very limited firepower (compared to shotgun or rifle) and energy as well as relatively high miss potential. I got a graphic illustration of that the other day when shooting a high point 9mm carbine (200 dollar gun) which at 20 yards gave me groups a little over an inch and a half (made one continuous hole); I couldn't do the same with the revolver I was shooting that day which cost close to five times as much. AND the carbine was generating low end .357 ballistics with the buffalo bore +P+ ammo (the High Point also has never had a FTF).

Good luck and Cheers

Metronome · 11-22-2009, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXplt

A major advantage of a handgun is its maneuverability as well as leaves the other hand free for a phone or flashlight (you might consider a very bright flashlight by your HD gun for target ID as well as it can temporarily blind an adversary--Stanley makes a HID rechargable spotlight which is the brightest thing I've ever seen for about 70 bucks but it is pretty heavy albeit does have a pistol grip).

The Baby Glock would do just fine as a home defense pistol, I would simply recommend using a Glock 17 Magazine to give you more ammunition and a better grip.

KW Gary M · 11-22-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchr

Folks, I have a couple of questions since we're discussing home defense, etc.

1. Concussion from firing some weapons in a confined space which can cause you to lose your equilibrium & make it difficult for a follow-up shot, if needed.

2. The blinding flash from shorter barreled firearms, making it difficult or impossible to see for a follow-up shot.

What is your thinking on this & the solution? I can't imagine the sound of a 12 ga. in the confined space of a hallway or the flash of a 357 snubbie in the dark. Has anyone actually experienced these issues?

I've fired my XD Subcompact (3 inch barrel) out on a boat in a pitch black night with no moon or stars. We tied a glow stick to a 5 gallon bucket and let it flot away. Shot about 15 shots. There was a flash for sure but not blinding by any means. The ammo was my own hand loads loaded pretty hot.

mitchr · 11-22-2009, 12:28 PM

I appreciate everyone's opinion. Hopefully none of us will ever find out if we made the right choice. I think I know which way I'll go. As to muzzle flash, it seems that you get more flash with shorter barrels so, in that respect my Ruger Blackhawk loaded with .38 would be good for the flash & the noise. However, I prefer to have it in my pillow case & could be an issue getting it out quickly & smoothly because of it's size, hammer snagging, etc. Next choice would be either the 9mm or 45 & since I have cimson trace grips on the 45, guess I'll go with it. As I practice my "point & shoot" & become more proficient with it, could go with the 9mm. I keep a small flashlight hanging on the bed post right by my head to use for target identification. I go to an inside range & sometimes I am the only one there. I think they'll let me fire a round or two with lights out so I can know what to expect. I think just knowing what to expect is helpful. But, I assure you i'm not going to test the noise part without hearing protection. Just take my chances on that. Thanks for your help guys.

11-20-2009, 09:20 PM	#1
mc24 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 36	baby glock 26 would this be a good gun for home defense.

11-20-2009, 09:40 PM	#2
TXplt Traveling Libertarian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 4,856 Blog Entries: 2	I own one and it would be OK. I'd rather have a shotgun, but many situations preclude this. It could do multi-duty as a CCW and home defense gun and is fine when loaded with high performance 9mm hollow point ammunition (gold dot/buffalo bore unicore, hornady crit defense, wichester pdx, golden sabre, Cor-Bon DPX, or anything similar to these). I'd probably put on the Tru-Glo sights though -- these are fibre optic light tubes with tritium that add alot and are visible in all light conditions. Glocks are infinitely reliable and mine has been a good gun. While it's primarily geared toward a CCW gun--with some potentially better choices with longer barrels and larger sight radius--it functions fine for a home defense handgun (especially when kept loaded and ready to go in a fast-access safe). It has a 10 +1 capacity as well. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas

11-20-2009, 10:05 PM	#3
KW Gary M Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Key West Florida Posts: 6,516 Blog Entries: 1	If it is soley for home defense I'd go with a larger gun with a longer barrel and more weight. Easier to control and less recoil. Two good points were brought up by TXplt. For just home defense get a shotgun. Also he pointed out that a Baby Glock can double as a CCW if you intend to carry. My 2 cents is before you buy a Glock of any sort rent one side by side with a XD and M&P. If you want to save some money rent a Glock side by side with a Taurus. I tried the Baby Glock, M&P Compact and XD Subcompact all the same day when deciding on a CCW. I was very turned off by Glock right away. Just didn't shoot well for me. I went back a week later and rented just the XD and M&P and decided the XD was for me. Many people own and love Glocks. I'm just not one of them. They may be a fine gun but I just didn't shoot it well. That is why I would suggest you rent as many as you can and whatever gun shoots best for you is the best gun for you. __________________ To Say Guns Kill People Is To Say Automobiles Drive Drunk and Matches Commit Arson.

11-20-2009, 10:25 PM	#4
mc24 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 36	glock 26 i own a smith 9v but it is about 10 yrs old. nothing wrong with it just wanted a new toy. would like to have a xdm but cant afford that and the 26 was cheaper. guess i will just stick with my smith.

11-21-2009, 12:56 AM	#6
Ten Man Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 677	I own the G 26 as well as many other Glocks. The G26 would not be my first pick for a home defense gun, BUT if you want to own a CCW gun, and you are restricted on funds for guns, the G 26 would be able to pull both duties, just fine. Many advocate using a 12 gauge for Home Defense, and I also have one under the bed. I have to say, though, I go for the Glock before I go for the 12 gauge, when I hear a "bump in the night." My wife will DEFINITELY NOT go for the 12 gauge. She could use it if she had to, but she has her own Glock that she goes for first, as well. I find the shot gun too ungainly to work with in the confines of the bedroom, especially in the dark. There are many advantages to having a small home defense hand gun, IF you can adequately control it. The smaller size makes it much easier to maneuver with, and it would be harder for a Bad Guy to take hold of it from you. The biggest disadvantage to the G26 is the 9 round capacity. It is better than a 5 or 6 round revolver, but it is a lot less than a G19 or G17 carries. I won't even get into the Glock versus other "imitators" argument. You already know where I stand on that one. __________________ AR10 - THE Battle Rifle! When Freedom is outlawed, only outlaws have Freedom.

11-20-2009, 11:56 PM	#5
pico Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 382	I should add that perhaps a better Glock for home defence would be the full sized type. I am a fan of the Glock 20, and I have the capability to shoot doubletaps equalizer round, which throws two projectiles out at the same time for a double wammy about equal to 2 9mm bullets. With 15 rounds in a mag, that is 30 projectiles. The 20 is now offered in a small frame size, and the 10mm is a much better stopper than the 9mm... not to dissuade you from them. I should add that perhaps the better way to go if you are married and can only afford the cost of a Glock 26, perhaps look at a pump shotgun and a makarov in 9mmx18. Your spouse can have the mak and you can have the shotgun. That is what I did when I was first married, but her Makarov was in .380.

11-21-2009, 03:29 AM	#7
shooter1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Central PA Posts: 103	I got a 26 Just got it in July. Have owned a glock 22 in 40 cal for 3.5 years. Love both. I don't think you would ever be sorry if you did buy the G26. But it would be wise to shoot the other brands. Ie, XD, M&P. Shooter P.S. I got my Glocks for IDPA comp, the G26 fits the BUG(back-up gun) class and the G22 fits the SSP(stock service pistol) class.

11-22-2009, 12:09 AM	#8
mitchr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 313	Folks, I have a couple of questions since we're discussing home defense, etc. 1. Concussion from firing some weapons in a confined space which can cause you to lose your equilibrium & make it difficult for a follow-up shot, if needed. 2. The blinding flash from shorter barreled firearms, making it difficult or impossible to see for a follow-up shot. What is your thinking on this & the solution? I can't imagine the sound of a 12 ga. in the confined space of a hallway or the flash of a 357 snubbie in the dark. Has anyone actually experienced these issues?

11-22-2009, 08:40 AM	#9
TXplt Traveling Libertarian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 4,856 Blog Entries: 2	I've experienced the flash of a .357 snubbie in low light, but not the blast without at least single hearing protection (including buffalo bore HEAVY .357 Magnum rounds from an SP-101). While the blast from the BB rounds in the snubbie was teeth jarring, I think in a high adrenalin situation it wouldn't have been too hard to work through -- but from a short bbl .357 in a confined space one might well experience permanent hearing damage. In a fight, one would have some degree of auditory exclusion going as well so I think firing the short bbl .357 would be workable through -- the reduced recoil BB rounds have flash suppressed powder which decreases muzzle flash as well and seem like the best compromise for those wishing to use a .357 round out of a snubby--stronger than .38 +P but more managable than full bore .357 (I've shot these from a 340 PD and while painful they aren't as bad as the Cor-Bon 140's or full bore 158 JHP's). My experience is that you could work through the flashes given proper ammo selection. The most recent experience I remember of shooting without hearing protection was shooting a rabid animal OUTDOORS with a SP-101 stoked with Buffalo Bore .38 Special 158 gr LSWHP +P's. Although I later had a little ringing in the ears I was surprised that I hadn't noticed really anything from the shots themselves and they weren't an issue at all (kindly note that I believe it's not ok to plan to shoot without hearing protection--always use hearing protection if you can). For indoor use, if it was a snubbie I'd personally go for the +P .38 rounds. I can't see much of an advantage given blast, potential hearing damage, and limited velocity gain for a .357 snubbie. With the G26 I don't see the aforementioned issues cropping up much. I did notice the Golden Sabres I fired in it the worst for muzzle flash but the others I use (DPX, Double Tap gold dot, Buffalo Bore) were all fine. __________________ Old fighter pilots never die.....They just wind up in Texas Last edited by TXplt; 11-22-2009 at 08:50 AM.
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11-22-2009, 09:34 AM	#10
TACAV Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,858	Think of your situation and surroundings before you decide on what tool u get for the job. Shotguns make excellent home defense guns but if you dwelling is very small or with tight hallways etc a long gun may not necessarily be the most optimal tool for the job. Similary if you have a wife or other smaller statured people who might also one day/night have to use it, a big shotgun may not be ideal either. For these two situations a handgun may very well suit your needs better than a shotgun. As someone that does building searches quite frequently, just because I have a long gun that I can deploy doesn't necessarily mean its the best option and many times even when I do have it out there are still many times when I have to sling it and switch to my pistol to get around tight places inside. Remember the situation/mission drives/determines the gear not the other way around. If you do go with a handgun that is to be used primarily for home defense and not necessarily for concealed carry why not go with a bigger model such as a glock 19 or 17 if you want to stick with the 9mm glocks, Or a compact 4 inch Springfield XD or Smith and Wesson M&P are other good options too. You will get a longer sight radius, higher capacity, and probably an accessory rail system if u want a light or something on. Whatever you get, get something with night sights. __________________ AR FS http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/firearms-listings/94532-ar15-target-rifle.html#post1113962

11-22-2009, 10:32 AM	#11
mitchr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 313	Temporary hearing loss wouldn't be a problem. But loss of eyesight, even temporarily, could be a real problem if your 1st shot didn't disable or take out the bad guy. That was my main concern. I guess the muzzle flash & noise would be just as bad on the BG as it is on you, but you never know. Right now, I have a choice of 9 mm (17 rd), 4" 1911, Ruger Blackhawk w/long barrel. I had considered getting a short barreled 12 ga, but started thinking about shooting it in close quarters, like a hallway. Have about decided not to go that way. I have a Remington 1100 16 ga if the problem is outside.

11-22-2009, 10:47 AM	#12
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 18,224	Please no offence. To many times we recommend a shotgun for Home Defence. Fact is it is an excellent weapon but it should be your 2nd choice with a pistol being your first. Haveing both is good Insurance. Now I'm not an expert but I own a 18.5" barrlled pump shotgun in 12ga. I love this Lil short fire breathing cannon of destruction. I love holding it. I love looking at it and I love takeing it with me just about everywhere I go. BUT useing your pistol in the home for defence may be the wisest choice because even though these short barrled wonder's in 12ga. have short barrels. They don't spread the buck shot like you think they do when they leave the barrel. You can do some serious demolishion to your home LOL Fireing one of these shotguns off in your house !!!! And you might even burn your house down LOL. Anyway a short barreled shotgun will actually bring you comfort knowing you have one but I would suggest you train yourself with a pistol first and then the shotgun. My 2 cents __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

11-22-2009, 12:28 PM	#16
mitchr Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 313	I appreciate everyone's opinion. Hopefully none of us will ever find out if we made the right choice. I think I know which way I'll go. As to muzzle flash, it seems that you get more flash with shorter barrels so, in that respect my Ruger Blackhawk loaded with .38 would be good for the flash & the noise. However, I prefer to have it in my pillow case & could be an issue getting it out quickly & smoothly because of it's size, hammer snagging, etc. Next choice would be either the 9mm or 45 & since I have cimson trace grips on the 45, guess I'll go with it. As I practice my "point & shoot" & become more proficient with it, could go with the 9mm. I keep a small flashlight hanging on the bed post right by my head to use for target identification. I go to an inside range & sometimes I am the only one there. I think they'll let me fire a round or two with lights out so I can know what to expect. I think just knowing what to expect is helpful. But, I assure you i'm not going to test the noise part without hearing protection. Just take my chances on that. Thanks for your help guys.