[Range Rat]

I am about tired of these grown kids of mine. They are incredibly lazy sloths.

One purchased dies and components when getting a new rifle back in about 1998 or so. I loaded a box or so to show him how it is done. To my knowledge, since that day he never loaded a single round. Instead, he buys the cheapest factory ammo he can find in gun shops at triple the price of reloads. Just lazy. "It ain't any fun dad." I finally bought a rifle for myself in the same caliber as his a few years ago, and therefore I managed to use up his components --- so at least they didn't result in just wasted money.

Now another son got a 357 and I was going to get him a set of dies and a shell holder for his birthday. But knowing what a lazy slug he is, I was convinced he would never load a shell. I bought the components and dies for myself and loaded him up about 100 rds. This son talked a good game -- I'm going to learn how to do it dad -- but now that the summer is over, he has never loaded a shell. Just bone lazy. Just stick dad with it.

Well, you know, this is exhausting work. You have to pick up the fired case, slide it into the shell holder, pull down the lever on the press . . . .

The son with the 357 can't figure out why I never take him to the range any more. I tell him about my trips to the range, and occasonally show him a fired target, but I am about done being the "goat" for these people.

Does anyone have any similar stories about "lazy sloths"?

[don5544]

I once told a son that he could go out to the range with me if he would help me do a little job on saturday morning. Saturday afternoon he shot about 500 rnds of 7.62 X 39 before I slowed him down. Yes it was back when you could buy a box for less than $2. It would have been better to pay someone to help.

[SwedeSteve]

My oldest kind of wandered away from hunting/shooting a few years back, but now he's showing interest in a Caribou hunt. I told him he needed to get to the range and check his zero. A few days later he shows up at the house while I'm away and asks his Mom where I kept my ammo, specifically 308 ammo. She said it was all probably in my reloading room, and that it would be locked because of the Grandkids.
He asked for a key, and she told him I had the only one as far as she knew !! My son stated how stupid that was of me and left. ( Big Snicker !!)

[White Rook]

Today's generation does OK if they can work out their problems by using their Cell Phones, Laptops or a Controller on X-Box Live...If it requires any physical work or going outdoors, some of them will have problems getting anything done.

[Ten Man]

When kids are taught that someone else will always pay or do the work, they do not develop any self reliance or skills.

I have watched this take place over the last 40 years. Parents my age, out of a false sense of "providing" for their kids, spoil them rotten, then wonder why the kids don't amount to anything.

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by Range Rat

I am about tired of these grown kids of mine. They are incredibly lazy sloths. One purchased dies and components when getting a new rifle back in about 1998 or so. I loaded a box or so to show him how it is done. To my knowledge, since that day he never loaded a single round. Instead, he buys the cheapest factory ammo he can find in gun shops at triple the price of reloads.

Well, take his dies, reload them yourself, then sell him them at twice the price. You get cash, and he saves money. Everybody should be happy

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by White Rook

Today's generation does OK if they can work out their problems by using their Cell Phones, Laptops or a Controller on X-Box Live...If it requires any physical work or going outdoors, some of them will have problems getting anything done.

I hear you. About the only way I can get my nephews off the Xbox is to take them shooting.

[pajaro]

yep.... my nephew.... loves to shoot, but has virtually no idea where the ammo comes from.... can't get him to learn to help me reload....i wonder if he has noticed that i don't take him shooting any more when he visits....

[toolman]

Well, neither of my stepsons reload, but both have expressed an interest in learning if we can coordinate our schedules. My two grandkids that live with me love to reload, but it's still in the fun stage for them. My 9 yr. old grandson can turn out a full box of 12 ga. loads in about 20 mins. using my old single-stage Pacific DL-105. He and his sister both do a really good job, no matter what type of ammo we're working on and usually get disappointed when it's time to stop.

[seattle fog]

I hear the whining and am jealous - both of my guys could care less about ANYTHING shooting related...and this holds true for their families as well.

I took everybody to the range a while back: both sons, a daughter-in-law to be and a niece and her friend. DIL fired ONE round, said "I don't like this very much" and that was it for her. Everybody else went through 2+ mags of 9mm and then wanted to leave.

Can you trade family members?? Huh?

[mouser868]

Quote:       Originally Posted by seattle fog

I hear the whining and am jealous - both of my guys could care less about ANYTHING shooting related...and this holds true for their families as well. I took everybody to the range a while back: both sons, a daughter-in-law to be and a niece and her friend. DIL fired ONE round, said "I don't like this very much" and that was it for her. Everybody else went through 2+ mags of 9mm and then wanted to leave. Can you trade family members?? Huh?

Be careful you could get worse than you gave.

[grizcty]

All the kids and Grand kids, come here to shoot.
None of them reload.

But these are "Dads" rules.
I make sure we do our shooting "before" supper time.
Bring your own guns/own ammo.
No shooting till I say so.
Shooting is done, in a orderly/safe fashion.
All brass/shells/targets, are picked up after shooting.
After everything is cleaned/policed up, to my expectations.
Then we sit down as a family to eat supper.
(gives them motivation to get it done correctly)

[White Rook]

Quote:       Originally Posted by seattle fog

I hear the whining and am jealous - both of my guys could care less about ANYTHING shooting related...and this holds true for their families as well. I took everybody to the range a while back: both sons, a daughter-in-law to be and a niece and her friend. DIL fired ONE round, said "I don't like this very much" and that was it for her. Everybody else went through 2+ mags of 9mm and then wanted to leave. Can you trade family members?? Huh?

I guess I'm blessed. All of my children love to shoot and so does my son-in-law. I now have 2 grandsons. One 21/2 and the other will be 1 next month. I bought them a daisy pump BB gun waiting for them to get old enough to learn to shoot it...

[Midas]

I must be an odd character because I actually enjoy the process of reloading, to me it is a lot of fun to go through all the steps of prepping brass, meticulously weighing powder charges, and then seeing the end results pay off at the range or in the field.

Neither of my kids are really into hunting or shooting, my son has a few guns, and we go hunting a few times a year. But at least both of them are working, and going to college, so while they may not enjoy doing what dad does, they are finding their own niche in life.

[eagle4g63]

I have to reload for my dad!!!! Hell the last time I wanted to use his 357 marlin I took it to the range with MY reloads and couldn't group for ****. Looked down the barrel and ALL LEADED up from years of shooting LEAD!!! I had to scrub and clean it till I had a nice shine and then used it. Of course I yelled at him for not cleaning it and Shooting LEAD in a micro groove to begin with.

I agree that I find reloading a lot of fun and am trying to teach my youngins to reload, the smallest ones love it the older one just wants to play X-box and shoot on there not the real things!! At least I don't have to reload for the X-box guns!!

[Capn Jack]

My Dad is not a hunter or a shooter and the first time I took him shooting I made the mistake of letting him use an M-1 Carbine and spent the rest of the weekend reloading. Next time I let him shoot a muzzle loading single shot pistol and let him load it. Amazingly! After that he seldom asked me to go shooting again.

Jack

[Range Rat]

Some suggest I don't like reloading. Actually I don't mind reloading, but I don't like to be someone else's "donkey," stuck with all the drudgery while they just do absolutely nothing. Heck, it's not unusual that they go running off and let me clean all the guns. Including theirs.

I was out shooting with a friend a couple of weeks ago. Ten years ago he gave his grown-up son a 1911 .45 Auto and 500 rds. of fresh-loaded ammo. A few months ago the guy gave his dad back the handgun and 450 rds of the ammo. Said his wife was on his case, and would not tolerate having a firearm in the house. This friend of mine is -- like me -- a senior citizen and was very hurt by this sorry performance.

You can lead a horse to water, but if he is a jackass, you cannot change him back into a horse.

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[runfiverun]

if i didn't shoot lead i couldn't shoot.
microgrooves are very very accurate with cast loads. [even more so than jaxketed] if you take the time to properly fit the cast bullet and alloy to the bbl.
all three kids and wife plus b.i.l.'s etc. shoot.
they don't expect me to provide ammo anymore especially since none of my guns are the same common calibers as thiers are.
0-6?? nope sorry got some 303's or 7.7's though, if you need a few.
45 acp? doubt these win mags are gonna fit.
357 not unless you can get the maximum in there.
kids help load and cast thier own or they are outta ammo.

[Pilgrim Still]

I am blessed. All three are grown and "self-supporting through their own contributions". All are avid hunters and shooters. Spouses are pro-gun, too. Grandkids are all enthusiastic about firearms. None are into reloading, but they don't expect me to make them their ammo. When I do, they are grateful. Like I said, I am blessed.

[gandog56]

Quote:       Originally Posted by White Rook

I guess I'm blessed. All of my children love to shoot and so does my son-in-law. I now have 2 grandsons. One 21/2 and the other will be 1 next month. I bought them a daisy pump BB gun waiting for them to get old enough to learn to shoot it...

Are you crazy, they'll put their eye's out!

Oh wait, that isn't a Red Ryder BB gun.