Does anyone load for the 8mm Mauser? This is the .323 M98 version. I have recently bought one and am looking for a good starting load. Accuracy is what I am looking for here.
Any info will be appreciated.
With my Sported Turk, 2 MOA is the best I have been able to get so far. I have been using H4895 around max with 200grn Speer softpoints. I have not had great results with Sierra 175grn softpoints, or 180grn ballistic tips yet. I may have gotten the best I am going to get, but that won't keep me from trying. I may wind up screwing that swede barrel on it and buying another 8x57.
I normally use the Sierra Load Manuel for data. I normally start with their listed "accuracy load" and work up or down from there 2/10ths of a grain at a time. That usually makes a good starting point.
If I don't have a bullet that matches the data, I call'em. They are very helpful. (even if you are not loading their brand of bulets) These guys are very knowledgable, and easy to talk to.
The Speer manual lists higher pressure loads for the 8mm. It suggests the loads are to be used in 98mausers only. I would most likely use the loads in Yugos, Czechs, and 98ks. Although, I suspect the Turk surplus ammo exceeds the limits listed in the manual, and I use it in Turkish mausers. I have a VihtaVouri manual that lists loads where the pressure reaches 3006 limits. In Europe they tend to load the military cartridges on the high end. The lawyers here in the States hold back the reloading companies. The Vihta manual only shows their powder but they are up there. If you would like to use some of these loads, and have the Finnish powder available I will post some for you. Please let me know what weight projectile and I will show the information.
My loads have been on the lower end, and like to other gentlemen I stay around the Sierra accuracy suggestions.
I load light for targets, as I"m not hunting. 43.5 gr of IMR4831, CCI primer, 150 gr SP bullet, I can't tell any difference between Speer or Hornady, so whichever is cheaper at the time. My Turk will hold 1.5" group at 100 yds with this, provided the light is just right so that I can see with my lousy eyes! I shoot iron sights, and can't recommend this load for scoped rifle, as the bullet drop will mess with you. Like I said, this is a light load. Recoil is pretty mild, too. I tried less powder, but the cases don't expand quite enough to get a reliable seal, so this is the minimum load for my rifle. Seems to shoot most accurately with lighter loads. Works not as well in my other Mausers, 2 to 4 inch groups there. Some day I might get enough time to work up loads for them, too.
Indy your right about Europe loading to
max or near max levels. I got some Yugo
surplus ammo that will flat out turn you
around. The Turk ammo will too. Its a
lot different than shooting American
170 gr. I don't have dies yet but am
going to buy some soon. I want to
try Hornady 150 gr. or Sierra 150.
Should be a good deer load.
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Standard disclaimer of starting well below and working up applies.
Some years ago I acquired a '98 with a beautiful bore and chamber. I tried everything I could find available commercially. Finaly bought a set of dies and started. Found some Hornady 150 grain spire points locally, had WW 760 on the shelf. When I got to 54.9 grains I quit. I couldn't ask for better accuracy. It shoots sub MOA from the bench at 100 yards consistantly.
This is a compressed load dropped in with the use of a drop tube !
I have shot several white tails with this load. None have taken a step after being hit. Terminal ballistics are awesome!
I do suggest you take ALL safety precautions before loading this heavily. Have your gun checked by a competant smith for head space and overall reliability and operability.
Start well below this charge and work up gradually ... I did.
I just started loading for a K98 i picked up and haven't really been able to test the accuracy of these loads or build them up at all. for plinking fun i use a 185gr core lokt remington on 41 gr of varget, feels like a .30 carbine round, not good for much else but punching paper, now with the same 41 gr of varget and a hornady 195gr there's a decent hunting round in the making. as i'm ever in search of cheap clean ammo i've begun stealing the heads out of surplus 8mm and loading them on my own brass so i don't have to worry about corrosive primers and the like, haven't tried them yet.