Someone who knows how to be really scathing, needs to write Remington a letter. They're going to have to improve the quality of these guns, or quit making them altogether and THAT would be an unimaginable tradgedy to the gunmaking and gunbuying world. Please Remington, if you can read this: FIX THE 336!!!!
'There is nothing new under the sun. It has all been done before.' -Sherlock Holmes
Do what I've been doing and buy as many of the real JM Marlins with serial numbers starting with 9 instead of MR. I figure at the least they will be worth a bundle just as an investment if nothing else. However, I intend to keep every one of them. So far I have bought up a 39A Annie Oakley, a Cowboy LImited 1894 in .44 Magnum, and a 336C in .35 Remington. I went to my favorite small town gun shop yesterday and asked for a 444 Marlin from one of his distributors with serial number starting with 9 instead of MR and unfortunately none of them (three distributors) had a "real" JM Marlin left in inventory--all are now MR or Remington Marlins. I know where I can get an old pre safety block Marlin 444 but it has the wrong buttstock on it--one from plain beech or something instead of actual walnut. I am thinking maybe it is worth buying that and getting a walnut buttstock for it but I am still not sure.
Anyway, all my JM Marlins work and were "made now as they were then" so I figure I am ahead in seeing this kind of opportunity. Who couldn't love a 336C by the way? In .30-30 or .35 Remington they are relatively inexpensive yet they remain better than a Winchester 94 in my book.
TACAV, I have been supplying updates to my recent and ONLY experience with Remington/Marlin customer service for a relatively simple repair/troubleshooting of a great little rifle I purchased for my daughter, the Marlin 795 22LR. Anyway the updates are posted in Marlin forum and in response to: Marlin Repair (How long does it take!?) Marlin 795 "Big Shrek" has responded there as well!
Though I haven't submitted the letter I've composed to both Remington/Marlin...I can't tell you what their response will be! But this scenario may be a sort of "precursor" to/for anyone considering a Remington/Marlin purchase or repair. The reason I say "both" Remington/Marlin is...well I was instructed to send the 795 to the REMINGTON- IlIon firearms plant and custom shop, in Ilion,NY however the inclosed "Repair Documents" address at top of docs says Marlin Firearm was serviced at: "MARLIN SERVICE-PO Box 1871-Madison,NC-27025" The UPS shipping lable return address says: Remington Firearms Plant & Custom Shop-Ilion, N.Y. Though I nave already scratched them from my list for my next Firearm purchase ....I can still give the Marlin "products" a good rating.
Originally Posted by TACAV
So ever since Marlin was bought out by Remington a couple years ago, who then shut down their plants and fired everyone so they could move all the equipment to the Remington plant in NY...
Has anyone noticed any difference in their customer service/gun/parts availability or customer service for better or worse?
I was thinking about getting one of their lever guns and was just curious.
TACAV, I bought a Marlin X7VH .308 last week. This is Marlin's newest addition to their line of centerfire bolt rifles, featuring a heavy varmit barrel. This rifle was made in Kentucky.....unlike my other Marlin XL7 rifle, bought 2 or so years ago, that was made at the North Haven, CT Marlin factory.
Externally, I can find nothing that suggests any difference in quality of manufacture between the two. Both rifles function flawlessly. However, I wish I had a bore scope to compare their lands/riflings. I've taken the new rifle to range several time and fired about 50 rounds, breaking it in, zeroing the scope and just playing around with different reloads. I am getting much more copper fouling in it than what I remember with my first Marlin, which is a 25-06, or the two Steven's 200s, Savage Edge or Ruger Hawkeye, all bought after my first Marlin.
The point for me is perhaps Remington will "get it right" in time with the Marlin takeover. In the meantime time is on our side to buy out the last of the real Marlins which will only go up in value as the same thing happened when the "hammer block safety" change came up years and years ago.
There are some real lemons out there even in the original Marlin plant manufacture, but the chances of them being of less quality than the current MR serial numbers is way lower.
When and if Remington gets it right there will be a time lag of significant length before trust is back. And even then the chances of the MR brand being as good or better are incredibly slim.