AK-47 or FN Fal

03-10-2004, 10:17 PM

for a red dawn scenario ? :assult:

PAPA G · 03-10-2004, 10:53 PM

plenty of open space and long ranges here abouts, with heavey wooded areas. whens the war start???

BattleRifleG3 · 03-11-2004, 12:12 AM

That's a really tough call, but due to my familiarity with and supply of the 7.62 NATO round, and my affinity for large rifles, I'd pick the FAL. But it would be a tough choice. Actually, I don't have a FAL, but do have an AK, so in reality I'd grab it.

Holmes · 03-11-2004, 07:42 AM

i would go with the ak 47,weapon is shorter,lighter and easier to manouver with.ammo is also lighter to carry.

azguy · 03-11-2004, 09:44 PM

What type of rifle is the FN Fal. If I had to fight a resistance type low intensity fight I would opt for a shotgun 12 guage, better coverage, better shock effect, more lead downrange per trigger pull with buck shot, my pick for best for hit and run tactics.

If I was in an organized milita, fource on fource, the rifle with the best range without a scope. I live in the desert, lotts of wide open spaces.

oneastrix · 03-11-2004, 11:53 PM

I ditto what Holmes said.

MAX7.62 · 03-12-2004, 07:27 AM

You know me! FN FAL The Right Arm of the Free World!!

04-22-2004, 06:36 PM

I almost reposted this poll and topic..the two most prolific rifle designs on the planet :assult:

Lonegun1894 · 07-10-2005, 09:03 PM

have both and i know i cando MUCH better work with the FAL.

ruger22com · 07-11-2005, 10:23 AM

ak..can drag it through the mud or a river and it will still shoot..and you can steal and use russian troops own ammo!

BattleRifleG3 · 07-11-2005, 11:44 AM

The FAL is known for it's reliability under harsh conditions as well.

Big Dog · 07-11-2005, 12:33 PM

While I technically and aesthetically prefer the FAL, if it came to actual SHTF combat here in Florida, the AK gets the nod. Distances wouldn't be that long, the swamp water and mud wouldn't bog the AK down, and we could carry more ammo!

Plink Floyd · 07-11-2005, 03:32 PM

I own both, and either one would arm you just fine. The Ak is limited to medium range, a well-tuned FAL will shoot rings around it. Mine has a carry handle, so I could use the other for an ammo can!

BigJake · 07-13-2005, 01:47 AM

The FAL hands down. I own a milled AK that I know is reliable, but I also own an L1A1 and have just sent off an Imbel FAL to be built. My experience with the FAL is with my L1A1 (Commonweath). It will shoot rings around any AK I have ever shot, and at ranges that the 762x39 round would turn into a football !!!!-Mary pass. I like the way it is described in the Boston Gun Bible. Boston says that since the majority of millitary firearms today are designed around the original nazi idea that most battles are fought within certian peremiters. The "Medium rifle caliber" round was invented. Though effective it becomes less potent when you have a group of well trained Riflemen that can shoot past close skirmishes into ranks of mostly inaffective soldiers at much longer distances. and if it gets close, well you are shooting a more powerful round. The only thing I can think of that the AK has on the FAL generally speaking is weight and 10 rounds per mag........ I'll take my chances with "The right arm of the free world" (the FAL).

07-13-2005, 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azguy

What type of rifle is the FN Fal.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as24f-e.htm

:assult:

apachehd · 07-13-2005, 08:15 AM

I am currently training the Iraqi army and would love to train these guys with the FN. The AKs my team sees everyday are type-56 chicom, Russian AKMs, and some Zastava yugos(best) The AK problems we see here are mostly blown cases(headspace problems) I have had no problems with the FN 14 years of shooting experince with it. Only problems I have ran into is faulty mags(cemte junk) FN is a far more superior weapon. To bad the Iraqis cannot figure that out as they tried with the G3A4, now they are buying Bulgarian crap.GO FN...........

apachehd · 07-13-2005, 08:18 AM

Looking for an Xebec barrel jig for AKs. Any information were I can buy one, or get the schematics to build one. I have been searching and searching....Concernd Gun DUDE!......

07-13-2005, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apachehd

Looking for an Xebec barrel jig for AKs. Any information were I can buy one, or get the schematics to build one. I have been searching and searching....Concernd Gun DUDE!......

http://www.headsbunker.com/html/buildcost.html

utahvarminter · 07-15-2005, 05:15 PM

Utah has too little woodlands for the short ranged effectiveness, and inaccuracy of any Ak type rifle. If I had my choice, it would be an M14(same cartidge of the FAL) becuase .308 has a varity of gun type ("sniper", battle rifle, light machine gun, etc)

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03-10-2004, 10:17 PM	#1
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	AK-47 or FN Fal for a red dawn scenario ? :assult:

03-11-2004, 12:12 AM	#3
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	That's a really tough call, but due to my familiarity with and supply of the 7.62 NATO round, and my affinity for large rifles, I'd pick the FAL. But it would be a tough choice. Actually, I don't have a FAL, but do have an AK, so in reality I'd grab it. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

03-11-2004, 09:44 PM	#5
azguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Yuma, AZ Posts: 136	What is a FN Fal? What type of rifle is the FN Fal. If I had to fight a resistance type low intensity fight I would opt for a shotgun 12 guage, better coverage, better shock effect, more lead downrange per trigger pull with buck shot, my pick for best for hit and run tactics. If I was in an organized milita, fource on fource, the rifle with the best range without a scope. I live in the desert, lotts of wide open spaces.

03-11-2004, 11:53 PM	#6
oneastrix Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 5,213	I ditto what Holmes said. __________________ There's no one more thankful to sit at the table, than the one who best remembers hunger's pain.

03-10-2004, 10:53 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	plenty of open space and long ranges here abouts, with heavey wooded areas. whens the war start???

03-11-2004, 07:42 AM	#4
Holmes Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 15	i would go with the ak 47,weapon is shorter,lighter and easier to manouver with.ammo is also lighter to carry.

03-12-2004, 07:27 AM	#7
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	You know me! FN FAL The Right Arm of the Free World!! __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

04-22-2004, 06:36 PM	#8
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I almost reposted this poll and topic..the two most prolific rifle designs on the planet :assult:

07-10-2005, 09:03 PM	#9
Lonegun1894 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 206	have both and i know i cando MUCH better work with the FAL.

07-11-2005, 10:23 AM	#10
ruger22com Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mobile Alabama Posts: 723	ak..can drag it through the mud or a river and it will still shoot..and you can steal and use russian troops own ammo! __________________ www.CheapGunParts.com http://ruger22.com/art/banners/tiny.gif Home of the "YELLOW JACKET" Bolt Buffer and Takedown Bolts! Free Shipping & Lifetime Warranty!

07-11-2005, 11:44 AM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	The FAL is known for it's reliability under harsh conditions as well. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-11-2005, 12:33 PM	#12
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,205	While I technically and aesthetically prefer the FAL, if it came to actual SHTF combat here in Florida, the AK gets the nod. Distances wouldn't be that long, the swamp water and mud wouldn't bog the AK down, and we could carry more ammo! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

07-11-2005, 03:32 PM	#13
Plink Floyd Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 43	I own both, and either one would arm you just fine. The Ak is limited to medium range, a well-tuned FAL will shoot rings around it. Mine has a carry handle, so I could use the other for an ammo can!

07-13-2005, 01:47 AM	#14
BigJake Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Posts: 184	The FAL hands down. I own a milled AK that I know is reliable, but I also own an L1A1 and have just sent off an Imbel FAL to be built. My experience with the FAL is with my L1A1 (Commonweath). It will shoot rings around any AK I have ever shot, and at ranges that the 762x39 round would turn into a football !!!!-Mary pass. I like the way it is described in the Boston Gun Bible. Boston says that since the majority of millitary firearms today are designed around the original nazi idea that most battles are fought within certian peremiters. The "Medium rifle caliber" round was invented. Though effective it becomes less potent when you have a group of well trained Riflemen that can shoot past close skirmishes into ranks of mostly inaffective soldiers at much longer distances. and if it gets close, well you are shooting a more powerful round. The only thing I can think of that the AK has on the FAL generally speaking is weight and 10 rounds per mag........ I'll take my chances with "The right arm of the free world" (the FAL). __________________ Yo Ho Ho an-a bottle a Brass Monkey...

07-13-2005, 08:15 AM	#16
apachehd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 8	I am currently training the Iraqi army and would love to train these guys with the FN. The AKs my team sees everyday are type-56 chicom, Russian AKMs, and some Zastava yugos(best) The AK problems we see here are mostly blown cases(headspace problems) I have had no problems with the FN 14 years of shooting experince with it. Only problems I have ran into is faulty mags(cemte junk) FN is a far more superior weapon. To bad the Iraqis cannot figure that out as they tried with the G3A4, now they are buying Bulgarian crap.GO FN...........

07-13-2005, 08:18 AM	#17
apachehd Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 8	AK Xebec barrel Jig Looking for an Xebec barrel jig for AKs. Any information were I can buy one, or get the schematics to build one. I have been searching and searching....Concernd Gun DUDE!......

07-15-2005, 05:15 PM	#19
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	Utah has too little woodlands for the short ranged effectiveness, and inaccuracy of any Ak type rifle. If I had my choice, it would be an M14(same cartidge of the FAL) becuase .308 has a varity of gun type ("sniper", battle rifle, light machine gun, etc) __________________ My Photo Album