Scout rifles - Budget options

BattleRifleG3 · 07-25-2005, 05:44 PM

Thinking about some day in the not too far future maybe getting a scout type rifle. The basic deal, a smooth operating bolt action with a long eye relief scope, say 4x or 6x or so, with a 20" or so regular weight barrel, and of course chambered in 308.

I was quite bummed to hear that Remington discontinued their 700 ADL. I was eyeing one up at Gander Mountain, but it was in 243. Gotta have the 308 with cheap surplus ammo, affordable match ammo, and every sort of load there is known to man.

Any ways to get that setup affordably?

jerry · 07-25-2005, 08:35 PM

http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProd...famid&famid=56

not a budget gun but nice

utahvarminter · 07-25-2005, 09:04 PM

Ruger M77 MKII Frontier{Black Laminate, blued 16", Scout Scope Mount)($800 new), or...Ruger M77 Mark II Ultra Light{wood, blued 20"} ($770 new), or... Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm Scout Scope{matte balck or silver}($200-$250 new)

BattleRifleG3 · 07-25-2005, 10:07 PM

Grr, arrgh...

Doubt I'll ever be able to afford such a thing. But I'll look at the pictures...

It really should have at least a 20" barrel though.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-26-2005, 04:30 AM

What I'd really like is something with a peep site at the rear of the receiver, a blade at the front of the barrel, and a see thru rail at the normal scout position.

This looks great, but is in the wrong caliber for my uses:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976499962.htm

Bountyhunter · 07-26-2005, 07:36 PM

The term Scout Rifle comes from Jeff Cooper over at Gunsite at Paulden, Arizona. Jeff has worked on the Scout Rifle concept for about 20 years and there is quite an evolution of what works and what doesnt

http://pw2.netcom.com/~chingesh/scoutrifle.html

This is a compendium of Jeff's work on the Scout Rifle. This may give you some ideas.

BH

silentknight · 07-26-2005, 09:36 PM

Something kinda like this?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=35180474

07-26-2005, 09:37 PM

http://www.atigunstocks.com/product-mauser.html

BattleRifleG3 · 07-26-2005, 09:45 PM

Nooooooooo!!!! Heresy!!!!

07-27-2005, 06:10 AM

Que paso ?

BattleRifleG3 · 07-27-2005, 07:30 AM

That ATI scout stock for a Mauser is HERESY!

07-27-2005, 08:11 AM

I was tempted to get one..in fact I still am :spaceship

BattleRifleG3 · 07-27-2005, 11:21 PM

NOOOOOO!!!! Let the Mausers be! If it's really crappy and non-collectable, at least do a tasteful sporterization, preferably a non-permanent one.

akDom · 07-29-2005, 09:58 PM

Here, check this out! http://makarov.com/guns/0395.htm

akDom · 07-29-2005, 10:01 PM

oh, not in 308, but still kinda cool.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-29-2005, 11:53 PM

I pee on those !!!!!!!izations of a historic rifle.

Actually, doesn't look too bad, but I don't trust that mount much, and there aren't any provisions for a rear site.

Darn good budget option though.

BattleRifleG3 · 07-30-2005, 12:02 AM

Another thing about a Mosin Scout is that the flash from an X54 will be much greater than from an X51. For that reason I'd want a barrel length of at least 22". Would probably throw on a flash hider too if I was drastically sporterizing it.

07-30-2005, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akDom

Here, check this out! http://makarov.com/guns/0395.htm

that's a cool lookin' set up :right:

akDom · 07-30-2005, 04:39 PM

This is even better!! http://makarov.com/mosmount/index.htm

alraicer · 07-31-2005, 09:40 PM

doesn't savage make a fairly inexpensive scout type rifle? I know spring-field makes a rifle they call a scout but its not inexpensive if I remember correctly.

07-25-2005, 05:44 PM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Scout rifles - Budget options Thinking about some day in the not too far future maybe getting a scout type rifle. The basic deal, a smooth operating bolt action with a long eye relief scope, say 4x or 6x or so, with a 20" or so regular weight barrel, and of course chambered in 308. I was quite bummed to hear that Remington discontinued their 700 ADL. I was eyeing one up at Gander Mountain, but it was in 243. Gotta have the 308 with cheap surplus ammo, affordable match ammo, and every sort of load there is known to man. Any ways to get that setup affordably? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-25-2005, 08:35 PM	#2
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,883 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	http://www.ruger.com/Firearms/FAProd...famid&famid=56 not a budget gun but nice __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

07-25-2005, 09:04 PM	#3
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	Ruger M77 MKII Frontier{Black Laminate, blued 16", Scout Scope Mount)($800 new), or...Ruger M77 Mark II Ultra Light{wood, blued 20"} ($770 new), or... Leupold FX-II 2.5x28mm Scout Scope{matte balck or silver}($200-$250 new) __________________ My Photo Album

07-25-2005, 10:07 PM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Grr, arrgh... Doubt I'll ever be able to afford such a thing. But I'll look at the pictures... It really should have at least a 20" barrel though. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-26-2005, 04:30 AM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	What I'd really like is something with a peep site at the rear of the receiver, a blade at the front of the barrel, and a see thru rail at the normal scout position. This looks great, but is in the wrong caliber for my uses: http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976499962.htm __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf Last edited by BattleRifleG3; 07-26-2005 at 04:35 AM.

07-26-2005, 07:36 PM	#6
Bountyhunter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Territory Posts: 103	The term Scout Rifle comes from Jeff Cooper over at Gunsite at Paulden, Arizona. Jeff has worked on the Scout Rifle concept for about 20 years and there is quite an evolution of what works and what doesnt http://pw2.netcom.com/~chingesh/scoutrifle.html This is a compendium of Jeff's work on the Scout Rifle. This may give you some ideas. BH

07-26-2005, 09:36 PM	#7
silentknight Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Iowa Posts: 1,125 Images: 3	Something kinda like this? http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...?Item=35180474 __________________ Sic Vis Pacem Parabellum

07-26-2005, 09:37 PM	#8
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	all you need is the Mauser, scope and this bad boy http://www.atigunstocks.com/product-mauser.html

07-26-2005, 09:45 PM	#9
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Nooooooooo!!!! Heresy!!!! __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-27-2005, 06:10 AM	#10
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Que paso ?

07-27-2005, 07:30 AM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	That ATI scout stock for a Mauser is HERESY! __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-27-2005, 08:11 AM	#12
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I was tempted to get one..in fact I still am :spaceship

07-27-2005, 11:21 PM	#13
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	NOOOOOO!!!! Let the Mausers be! If it's really crappy and non-collectable, at least do a tasteful sporterization, preferably a non-permanent one. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-29-2005, 09:58 PM	#14
akDom Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: vegas Posts: 108	Here, check this out! http://makarov.com/guns/0395.htm

07-29-2005, 10:01 PM	#15
akDom Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: vegas Posts: 108	oh, not in 308, but still kinda cool.

07-29-2005, 11:53 PM	#16
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I pee on those !!!!!!!izations of a historic rifle. Actually, doesn't look too bad, but I don't trust that mount much, and there aren't any provisions for a rear site. Darn good budget option though. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-30-2005, 12:02 AM	#17
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Another thing about a Mosin Scout is that the flash from an X54 will be much greater than from an X51. For that reason I'd want a barrel length of at least 22". Would probably throw on a flash hider too if I was drastically sporterizing it. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-30-2005, 04:39 PM	#19
akDom Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: vegas Posts: 108	This is even better!! http://makarov.com/mosmount/index.htm

07-31-2005, 09:40 PM	#20
alraicer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 134	doesn't savage make a fairly inexpensive scout type rifle? I know spring-field makes a rifle they call a scout but its not inexpensive if I remember correctly.