30-06 Recoil Question.

Andrew · 11-11-2005, 02:33 PM

How hard does a 30-06 kick in comparison to a 12 gauge shotgun(Remington 11-87)?

gunssb · 11-11-2005, 02:38 PM

depends on what its shot out of. My garand is hardly noticeable and I can shoot it all day, but a m44 or a mauser carbine hurts after a while, especially thru a t-shirt.

Outriderdark · 11-11-2005, 04:14 PM

All depends on the rifle....

CleanCut · 11-11-2005, 05:35 PM

My 870 shooting 2 3/4" kicks noticeably harder than my 742 30-06.

Oxford · 11-11-2005, 06:00 PM

Seems to me that the heavier the 30-06 is the less kick back you feel...and vice versa because it absorbs some of the recoil in relation to it's weight. I believe that is why my 03A3 seems to have less recoil than my Rem 700...both firing 150 grain 30-06 rounds.

Bookman · 11-11-2005, 10:15 PM

Reasonably close. We use this comparison in our hunter safety classes:

.30-06 kicks like a 12 gauge
.30-30 kicks like a 20 gauge

This gives our beginners a reference point.

Snakebite · 11-11-2005, 11:34 PM

Bookman is close and I agree. But I had an .06 that was nasty. Way worse than an M44 and that is not a light weight when it comes to recoil.
I sold that gun. It would bruise me after a few rounds.
I've shot others that were almost pleasant. Depends on the gun, the stock and other stuff.

gunssb · 11-11-2005, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakebite

Bookman is close and I agree. But I had an .06 that was nasty. Way worse than an M44 and that is not a light weight when it comes to recoil.
I sold that gun. It would bruise me after a few rounds.
I've shot others that were almost pleasant. Depends on the gun, the stock and other stuff.

can you share which gun it was so we can avoid it ?

Dale · 11-12-2005, 07:38 AM

Well since I cracked the stock on one of my 1903A3s firing a top end reload I can tell you first hand it CAN be brutal.

However, the loads I have now are fairly comfortable to shoot.

So, I guess I'm also agreeing that it depends on what you are shooting and through what gun.

BattleRifleG3 · 11-13-2005, 11:26 PM

An autoloader of either kind will take a lot of the felt recoil due to its reciprocating mass.

myarmor · 11-14-2005, 12:45 AM

A lot depends on the felt recoil. Weight of the rifle, grain of bullet used, strengh of the load/powder measure, barrel length and weight, muzzle break?, stock fit, stock placement, recoil pad, etc...
Here's something you might be interested in:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

Oxford · 11-14-2005, 02:29 PM

MyArmor...the recoil chart developed by Chuck Hawkes, that you posted, is an excellent bit of information to keep in my files. Thanks for making that post. I'll be keeping that data handy for future reference. :nod:

gunssb · 11-14-2005, 02:40 PM

good data. But where do they take into account the type of powder used ?

Tipadoux · 11-22-2005, 11:04 AM

Recoil depends upon many things including bullet weight, powder load, stock and how a person is holding the rifle. Some 30/06s like the M1 Grand have very little recoil compared to a $200.00 off the wall brand rifle. The stock and stock angle make a big differance. Weight of the stock of course comes into play. A play toy plastic stock on $200.00 30/06 can black and blue your shoulder but quick. While a real good Walnut stock with cheek rest on a $700.00 rifle will not bother you. I one had a real cheap Savage 12 gauge shot gun and if you placed the stock on the floor it would drive nails through the floor. I got a Remington 1100 and there is no recoil at all even with magnum shells. If I was going to get a 30/06 today I would get the best Walnut stock I could and buy a real good rifle. then I would reload it for accrucey instead of super velocity. Using a 150 grain bullet in a 30/06 loaded up accrute will kill anything in North America and leave your shoulder laughing to boot. One tip on the so called synthetic stocks; pull the butt plate off and fill it with foam. The liquid kind used to seal cracks around windows. Spray a little at a time and let it expand a bit then keep going until all the stock is filled. It makes a big differance in stability of the stock and recoil is cut down.

Oxford · 11-22-2005, 11:16 AM

Tipadoux wrote: "One tip on the so called synthetic stocks; pull the butt plate off and fill it with foam. The liquid kind used to seal cracks around windows. Spray a little at a time and let it expand a bit then keep going until all the stock is filled. It makes a big differance in stability of the stock and recoil is cut down."

I'm wonder'in if this same system would work on an 03A3 by filling the cleaning kit hole in the butt stock. However, it would seem to me that by adding weight, the recoil would be reduced. It would seem that by adding foam there would be no significant difference...but I'm just ponder'in the possibility of both scenario's.

practical · 11-22-2005, 08:07 PM

My Browning A-bolt doesn't kick particularly hard, but it is more of a snap than a 12ga. It used to bother me, but as I've gained more experience, its become less of an issue. Lately I've been trying to build up my recoil tolerance by shooting 12ga slugs. So far all I've got to show for it is some bruises.

carlepps · 02-19-2008, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

How hard does a 30-06 kick in comparison to a 12 gauge shotgun(Remington 11-87)?

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lefty o · 02-19-2008, 10:24 AM

you seem to have an echo!! echo!!

Brother Bob · 02-19-2008, 06:03 PM

I saw a picture not too long ago of a young, good looking brunette, kneeling beside a cape buffalo that she had shot with a Weatherby .460 Magnum. She was five foot nothing and 100 and nothing pounds......... Recoil????? What's recoil???? LOL!

ArkansasHunter · 02-19-2008, 06:11 PM

It don't kick bad at all if your not target shooting, But I promise you if you shoot a Remington 742 30-06 It will be so loud, it will sound like an artillery piece going off.
It's unbeleiveable how loud a 30-06 can be !!!!
If you shoot maybe 7 to 10 rounds you'll feel some discomfort, but it want break any bones...A.H

11-11-2005, 02:33 PM	#1
Andrew Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 46	30-06 Recoil Question. How hard does a 30-06 kick in comparison to a 12 gauge shotgun(Remington 11-87)? __________________ :full: :full:Just get in yer crosshairs and start shootin'!!! :full: :full:

11-11-2005, 04:14 PM	#3
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125	All depends on the rifle.... __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

11-11-2005, 06:00 PM	#5
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,021 Blog Entries: 4	Seems to me that the heavier the 30-06 is the less kick back you feel...and vice versa because it absorbs some of the recoil in relation to it's weight. I believe that is why my 03A3 seems to have less recoil than my Rem 700...both firing 150 grain 30-06 rounds. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

11-12-2005, 07:38 AM	#9
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Well since I cracked the stock on one of my 1903A3s firing a top end reload I can tell you first hand it CAN be brutal. However, the loads I have now are fairly comfortable to shoot. So, I guess I'm also agreeing that it depends on what you are shooting and through what gun. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

11-13-2005, 11:26 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	An autoloader of either kind will take a lot of the felt recoil due to its reciprocating mass. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-11-2005, 02:38 PM	#2
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	depends on what its shot out of. My garand is hardly noticeable and I can shoot it all day, but a m44 or a mauser carbine hurts after a while, especially thru a t-shirt.

11-11-2005, 05:35 PM	#4
CleanCut Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Georgia Posts: 77	My 870 shooting 2 3/4" kicks noticeably harder than my 742 30-06.

11-11-2005, 10:15 PM	#6
Bookman Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: 10 paces south of Canada Posts: 738	Reasonably close. We use this comparison in our hunter safety classes: .30-06 kicks like a 12 gauge .30-30 kicks like a 20 gauge This gives our beginners a reference point.

11-11-2005, 11:34 PM	#7
Snakebite Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tucson, Mexico Posts: 1,839	Bookman is close and I agree. But I had an .06 that was nasty. Way worse than an M44 and that is not a light weight when it comes to recoil. I sold that gun. It would bruise me after a few rounds. I've shot others that were almost pleasant. Depends on the gun, the stock and other stuff.

11-14-2005, 12:45 AM	#11
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	A lot depends on the felt recoil. Weight of the rifle, grain of bullet used, strengh of the load/powder measure, barrel length and weight, muzzle break?, stock fit, stock placement, recoil pad, etc... Here's something you might be interested in: http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

11-14-2005, 02:29 PM	#12
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,021 Blog Entries: 4	MyArmor...the recoil chart developed by Chuck Hawkes, that you posted, is an excellent bit of information to keep in my files. Thanks for making that post. I'll be keeping that data handy for future reference. :nod: __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

11-14-2005, 02:40 PM	#13
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833	good data. But where do they take into account the type of powder used ?

11-22-2005, 11:04 AM	#14
Tipadoux Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 66	kicking rifles Recoil depends upon many things including bullet weight, powder load, stock and how a person is holding the rifle. Some 30/06s like the M1 Grand have very little recoil compared to a $200.00 off the wall brand rifle. The stock and stock angle make a big differance. Weight of the stock of course comes into play. A play toy plastic stock on $200.00 30/06 can black and blue your shoulder but quick. While a real good Walnut stock with cheek rest on a $700.00 rifle will not bother you. I one had a real cheap Savage 12 gauge shot gun and if you placed the stock on the floor it would drive nails through the floor. I got a Remington 1100 and there is no recoil at all even with magnum shells. If I was going to get a 30/06 today I would get the best Walnut stock I could and buy a real good rifle. then I would reload it for accrucey instead of super velocity. Using a 150 grain bullet in a 30/06 loaded up accrute will kill anything in North America and leave your shoulder laughing to boot. One tip on the so called synthetic stocks; pull the butt plate off and fill it with foam. The liquid kind used to seal cracks around windows. Spray a little at a time and let it expand a bit then keep going until all the stock is filled. It makes a big differance in stability of the stock and recoil is cut down.

11-22-2005, 11:16 AM	#15
Oxford Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gladstone, Missouri Posts: 13,021 Blog Entries: 4	Tipadoux wrote: "One tip on the so called synthetic stocks; pull the butt plate off and fill it with foam. The liquid kind used to seal cracks around windows. Spray a little at a time and let it expand a bit then keep going until all the stock is filled. It makes a big differance in stability of the stock and recoil is cut down." I'm wonder'in if this same system would work on an 03A3 by filling the cleaning kit hole in the butt stock. However, it would seem to me that by adding weight, the recoil would be reduced. It would seem that by adding foam there would be no significant difference...but I'm just ponder'in the possibility of both scenario's. __________________ "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing right".

11-22-2005, 08:07 PM	#16
practical Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA/Casper, WY Posts: 736	My Browning A-bolt doesn't kick particularly hard, but it is more of a snap than a 12ga. It used to bother me, but as I've gained more experience, its become less of an issue. Lately I've been trying to build up my recoil tolerance by shooting 12ga slugs. So far all I've got to show for it is some bruises. __________________ Eric "The secret to life is honesty and fair dealing, if you can fake that you've got it made"

02-19-2008, 10:24 AM	#18
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,783	you seem to have an echo!! echo!!

02-19-2008, 06:03 PM	#19
Brother Bob The Mayor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Olive Branch, MS. Posts: 2,670 Blog Entries: 3	I saw a picture not too long ago of a young, good looking brunette, kneeling beside a cape buffalo that she had shot with a Weatherby .460 Magnum. She was five foot nothing and 100 and nothing pounds......... Recoil????? What's recoil???? LOL!

02-19-2008, 06:11 PM	#20
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,675	It don't kick bad at all if your not target shooting, But I promise you if you shoot a Remington 742 30-06 It will be so loud, it will sound like an artillery piece going off. It's unbeleiveable how loud a 30-06 can be !!!! If you shoot maybe 7 to 10 rounds you'll feel some discomfort, but it want break any bones...A.H