I need to avoid the bone

olaftheproud · 11-26-2005, 12:13 AM

Ok I took your guys advise about rifles, I gave up the 45 idea and am going with the ak thing. WASR-10 with a dragnoff stock is it a good gun I can get one under 300. I dont mind spending some cash but if i can get a good gun iam happy. I want to nail 3inch groups and smaller at 100 yards I think i can hunt game under 400 pounds with this. Is it a good gun.

fordruid · 11-26-2005, 12:15 AM

I don't like that style of stock. It just doesn't 'fit' me comfortably.

utahvarminter · 11-26-2005, 01:20 PM

AK's were built for Russian soliders who, at the time, couldn't hit an apple at 10 yards.(exageration)
The AK is a great gun for extreme conditions. MOST AK's are only gunna get you 6in groups at 100yds. If you want accuracy in a semi-auto, AR-15. Find a decent used bushmaster, or armalite. If you aren't looking for Quality, but affordability - DPMS.

NRAJOE · 11-26-2005, 01:52 PM

Well here we go again with an AR guy saying AK's can't hit shite...

I would put my Bulgarian milled AK up against a basic AR and come away pleased...very accurate, very sturdy...a bit more than you want to pay though Olaf....

BattleRifleG3 · 11-27-2005, 08:54 PM

3" groups at 100yd will not come from ANY AK, but it will come from MANY AKs. The Russian Saigas should do about that well, as well as the Bulgarian models. VEPRs, based on the RPK action, as well as most milled AKs, specifically the milled one NRAJOE spoke of, will do that too.

WASRs are a crapshoot on accuracy. Some do give 3" groups. Some don't do that well. Buy two and you have a good chance of one of them doing 3moa.

The good news - A clean, undamaged Yugoslav SKS should be able to do that well.

In any of the above, try using US ammo for the high accuracy and hunting, ie Remington and Winchester.

11-26-2005, 12:13 AM	#1
olaftheproud Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 47	I need to avoid the bone Ok I took your guys advise about rifles, I gave up the 45 idea and am going with the ak thing. WASR-10 with a dragnoff stock is it a good gun I can get one under 300. I dont mind spending some cash but if i can get a good gun iam happy. I want to nail 3inch groups and smaller at 100 yards I think i can hunt game under 400 pounds with this. Is it a good gun.

11-26-2005, 01:20 PM	#3
utahvarminter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 487	AK's were built for Russian soliders who, at the time, couldn't hit an apple at 10 yards.(exageration) The AK is a great gun for extreme conditions. MOST AK's are only gunna get you 6in groups at 100yds. If you want accuracy in a semi-auto, AR-15. Find a decent used bushmaster, or armalite. If you aren't looking for Quality, but affordability - DPMS. __________________ My Photo Album

11-26-2005, 01:52 PM	#4
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,174 Images: 3	Sigh... Well here we go again with an AR guy saying AK's can't hit shite... I would put my Bulgarian milled AK up against a basic AR and come away pleased...very accurate, very sturdy...a bit more than you want to pay though Olaf....

11-27-2005, 08:54 PM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,428 Images: 13	3" groups at 100yd will not come from ANY AK, but it will come from MANY AKs. The Russian Saigas should do about that well, as well as the Bulgarian models. VEPRs, based on the RPK action, as well as most milled AKs, specifically the milled one NRAJOE spoke of, will do that too. WASRs are a crapshoot on accuracy. Some do give 3" groups. Some don't do that well. Buy two and you have a good chance of one of them doing 3moa. The good news - A clean, undamaged Yugoslav SKS should be able to do that well. In any of the above, try using US ammo for the high accuracy and hunting, ie Remington and Winchester. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-26-2005, 12:15 AM	#2
fordruid Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 156	I don't like that style of stock. It just doesn't 'fit' me comfortably.